The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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Lifer
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I have no issue with the suggestion that they both testify. The polygraph thing is, however, a stunt. It's time we stopped even talking about polygraphs. They're the longest running scam in US history.
Aren't polygraph tests still required for some government positions?
 

eelw

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Sure one should be vocal when it comes to a consequential matter like SCOTUS and most definitely POTUS. But ambulance chasing so many media outlets just reeks of desperation. Let’s see if Ronan Farrow comes out with a similar article of a political smear job.
 

interchange

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I think you're going to have to post evidence in saying they are "bunk". And they are not inadmissible in some civil courts in some circumstances. They are, however, flawed and technique-dependent.

I agree in this case Biden should not do it. The whole premise of demanding someone else do something in exchange for your own diligence to prove your claim is bunk. And I think it's a ploy as you say. Right now, the story doesn't have enough traction and isn't credible enough to go anywhere. There is no legal case surrounding it. It's all about the media. So if Biden were to take her up on it, the story would make a lot of headlines. It would be bad for him even if the results were good. If he refuses to do so (which he should), it gives more fuel to those in Trump's base to hang on to the story. It's a lose-lose for Biden.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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This reporter is probably a rape apologist, right?

This reporter wrote was is the most fair and reasonable assessment of the entire situation, which lends credibility to Reade’s accusations while also raising concerns. It also quite clearly illustrates why this story will not go away, because Biden is being held to the standard he advocated for.

As many said during the Kavanaugh hearings, this isn’t a trial, its a job interview. Knowing what we know now, I doubt Biden would have won the nomination. Warren and others would have buried him with these accusations, as they did Bloomberg.
 

fskimospy

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Apparently there is an official court document with her ex telling of how she was traumatized from the sexual harassment she endured while working for Joe scumbag.
Wow, so her ex husband who was airing her dirty laundry in a divorce proceeding didn’t say anything about any sexual assault. Or maybe she told everyone else she knew but not her husband?

Lol.

Also, if you think Joe Biden is a scumbag you must think the guy you voted for is an inhuman monster.
 
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Wow, so her ex husband who was airing her dirty laundry in a divorce proceeding didn’t say anything about any sexual assault. Or maybe she told everyone else she knew but not her husband?

Lol.

Also, if you think Joe Biden is a scumbag you must think the guy you voted for is an inhuman monster.
Why are you so intent on defending this scumbag? We have two complete shit options on the table. I have already made my decision to not vote for Trump. The complete mess he made of the Corona virus is reason enough for him to not be reelected. I will be voting against Texas gov Greg Abbott whenever the election is held. I will be voting for whatever Democratic candidate opposes him. If a better candidate than Joe Biden is nominated he/she will have my wife's and I vote for president. I just can't get behind this scumbag. He is also suffering from dementia.
You guys should be pushing for a different candidate.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Wow, so her ex husband who was airing her dirty laundry in a divorce proceeding didn’t say anything about any sexual assault. Or maybe she told everyone else she knew but not her husband?

Lol.

Also, if you think Joe Biden is a scumbag you must think the guy you voted for is an inhuman monster.

Something happened to her.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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It's a clever strategy, likely suggested by her lawyer (i.e. her GOP handler). If Biden refuses, which he should, it looks like he's hiding something. He can't agree to it. Polygraphs are total bunk, meaning the test could just as easily identify him as lying regardless, and that result would be more politically damaging than refusing to take the test.
Biden's move here is to say yeah sure I'll take a polygraph the day after Trump finishes polygraph for each of his 25 accusers.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Apparently there is an official court document with her ex telling of how she was traumatized from the sexual harassment she endured while working for Joe scumbag.
A) That does not name Biden as the actual perp.
B) It talks about sexual harassment, not sexual assault, which would be compatible with her first version of the story that Biden touched her shoulder and sniffed her hair or whatever.
 
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sandorski

No Lifer
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The entirety of the corroboration here is another person saying she told them something, only in this case the person she was closest to apparently wasn’t told she was assaulted.

Remember when doubt was cast on the Phone Call and people doubted the various people she told way back when? I remember back before even then when people were convinced she just recently made up the whole story for whatever reason. Since then we have found 7ish confirmations near the allegations that something happened at that work place.

This continues to gain traction and at some point people are going to have to recognize the Reade's allegation is much more confirmed than even Ford's.
 

fskimospy

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Remember when doubt was cast on the Phone Call and people doubted the various people she told way back when? I remember back before even then when people were convinced she just recently made up the whole story for whatever reason. Since then we have found 7ish confirmations near the allegations that something happened at that work place.

This continues to gain traction and at some point people are going to have to recognize the Reade's allegation is much more confirmed than even Ford's.

This is just another person saying she told them something. I don’t see anyone doubting she told people things, the argument is she lies about a lot of things.

If anything this further discredits her as apparently the only person who wrote something down contemporaneously didn’t know she was sexually assaulted. Is the argument that she told her neighbor but not her husband? How desperate would you have to be to believe that?
 

VRAMdemon

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Lol..the polygraph copout...

She's already imposed a precondition that's impossible to meet, which is that Joe Biden also submit to a polygraph.

For one thing, they're bullshit. They're about as reliable as a ouija board.

Anyone can make themselves look more credible by saying they're willing to take a polygraph. But you put enough conditions on it that you never have to actually sit down at the table.

Reade has no intentions of taking a polygraph
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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This is just another person saying she told them something. I don’t see anyone doubting she told people things, the argument is she lies about a lot of things.

If anything this further discredits her as apparently the only person who wrote something down contemporaneously didn’t know she was sexually assaulted. Is the argument that she told her neighbor but not her husband? How desperate would you have to be to believe that?
This is another person confirming Reade’s account that was also formally documented. Maybe she only recently felt comfortable revealing the extent of the problem. Reade is also willing to go under oath. You’re running out of field.
 

eelw

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“The fact that we have two men running for the highest office in the land, both with a history of misogyny and sexual misconduct, says more about our culture than anything,” she said.

No it just says more about our culture that people are willing to sling shit for political motives.

Sure she has more corroboration that Ford. But Ford’s story doesn’t have more holes in it than facts supporting it.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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This is just another person saying she told them something. I don’t see anyone doubting she told people things, the argument is she lies about a lot of things.

If anything this further discredits her as apparently the only person who wrote something down contemporaneously didn’t know she was sexually assaulted. Is the argument that she told her neighbor but not her husband? How desperate would you have to be to believe that?

Ford told 1 person[her therapist] 30 years after the fact, but then more people after that. Does that seem more corroborated?
 
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