The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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sandorski

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“The fact that we have two men running for the highest office in the land, both with a history of misogyny and sexual misconduct, says more about our culture than anything,” she said.

No it just says more about our culture that people are willing to sling shit for political motives.

Sure she has more corroboration that Ford. But Ford’s story doesn’t have more holes in it than facts supporting it.

Based upon what?
 

fskimospy

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This is another person confirming Reade’s account that was also formally documented. Maybe she only recently felt comfortable revealing the extent of the problem. Reade is also willing to go under oath. You’re running out of field.
Did you read the article? It is explicitly not someone confirming her account, it’s someone with no reason to lie saying something different. Is your argument that she felt comfortable telling her neighbor but not her husband?
 

fskimospy

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Ford told 1 person[her therapist] 30 years after the fact, but then more people after that. Does that seem more corroborated?
Sure, she didn’t give multiple conflicting accounts.

This account by her husband proves that she told someone else something at the time, something nobody here really argues. It undercuts her allegation now though because the only written evidence of what she said indicates she complained of sexual harassment, not sexual assault. Unless you’re now arguing that she hid this from her husband or he was concealing it for some reason this is just another nail in the coffin.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Did you read the article? It is explicitly not someone confirming her account, it’s someone with no reason to lie saying something different. Is your argument that she felt comfortable telling her neighbor but not her husband?
Given that her relationship with her husband was not a healthy one, and she seemed to have a trusting and empathetic relationship with the neighbor, absolutely.
 

fskimospy

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She was interviewed. In that interview, she agreed to go under oath and take a polygraph.
Want to bet she never goes under oath? I will. She didn’t even name Biden in the police report she recently filed. This is most likely due to the fact she could be prosecuted for filing a false report.
 

sandorski

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Sure, she didn’t give multiple conflicting accounts.

This account by her husband proves that she told someone else something at the time, something nobody here really argues. It undercuts her allegation now though because the only written evidence of what she said indicates she complained of sexual harassment, not sexual assault. Unless you’re now arguing that she hid this from her husband or he was concealing it for some reason this is just another nail in the coffin.

Ford's accounting to her Therapist and her later testimony don't match either.
 

fskimospy

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Given that her relationship with her husband was not a healthy one, and she seemed to have a trusting and empathetic relationship with the neighbor, absolutely.

She got married after the alleged assault happened, so your argument is that she became close enough to him to marry him and tell him about sexual harassment but not sexual assault then became estranged from him so she wouldn’t say anything, then felt comfortable enough to talk to her neighbor.

The pretzels you are tying yourself into in order to keep #bothsidesing is pretty funny.
 

Starbuck1975

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Sure, she didn’t give multiple conflicting accounts.

This account by her husband proves that she told someone else something at the time, something nobody here really argues. It undercuts her allegation now though because the only written evidence of what she said indicates she complained of sexual harassment, not sexual assault. Unless you’re now arguing that she hid this from her husband or he was concealing it for some reason this is just another nail in the coffin.
That means at a minimum, she has consistently complained of sexual harassment. She has only recently layered additional allegations over the base claim. There is a coffin, but not for who you think.
 

Starbuck1975

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She got married after the alleged assault happened, so your argument is that she became close enough to him to marry him and tell him about sexual harassment but not sexual assault then became estranged from him so she wouldn’t say anything, then felt comfortable enough to talk to her neighbor.

The pretzels you are tying yourself into in order to keep #bothsidesing is pretty funny.
I love pretzels. You’re still running out of field.
 

fskimospy

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That means at a minimum, she has consistently complained of sexual harassment. She has only recently layered additional allegations over the base claim. There is a coffin, but not for who you think.

So in other words she has complained about something entirely different than sexual assault. Of course even her harassment complaint has no actual corroboration other than that she told her friends and family of something, but we can save that for another day.

I know you need to #bothsides with every bone in your body but you fucked up when you tied your horse to an unreliable grifter.
 

fskimospy

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I love pretzels. You’re still running out of field.
It’s kind of weird that when evidence comes out that works to disprove your claim you try and pretend it does the opposite. Are you just trying to convince yourself so you can keep #bothsidesing?
 

eelw

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Based upon what?
Fine. Let’s repeat ad nauseam all the holes.

Yes she was forced out of her position. Oh no I left to pursue different career.

She didn’t object to him becoming VP. Apparently it was out of respect to Obama she didn’t say something. Biden passed the vetting without any of this coming out then.

She supported Biden in #MeToo. So I’m guessing she is now claiming battered spouse since she supports him in 2016.

The sudden liking of Putin. Oh sure she researched and wrote a story to explain this.

The only narrative which confirms with facts was creepy Joe did sniff her hair. All her initial witnesses confirm a harassment. Only after she claimed full blown assault they changed their story.

The flood of editorials from reporters that she’s been shopping this story for now 2 years. Gold digger? NAH

And now she’s being represented by someone linked with. GOP.

But hey, we have 7 people confirming her story. This is all that matters apparently
 
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Want to bet she never goes under oath? I will. She didn’t even name Biden in the police report she recently filed. This is most likely due to the fact she could be prosecuted for filing a false report.
It's the same technique Trump uses. Say you'll do something but never actually do it
 

fskimospy

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Fine. Let’s repeat ad nauseam all the holes.

Yes she was forced out of her position. Oh no I left to pursue different career.

She didn’t object to him becoming VP. Apparently it was out of respect to Obama she didn’t say something. Biden passed the vetting without any of this coming out then.

She supported Biden in #MeToo. So I’m guessing she is now claiming battered spouse since she supports him in 2016.

The sudden liking of Putin. Oh sure she researched and wrote a story to explain this.

The only narrative which confirms with facts was creepy Joe did sniff her hair. All her initial witnesses confirm a harassment. Only after she claimed full blown assault they changed their story.

The flood of editorials from reporters that she’s been shopping this story for now 2 years. Gold digger? NAH

And now she’s being represented by someone linked with. GOP.

But hey, we have 7 people confirming her story. This is all that matters apparently
She also claimed that no one in the media would talk to her. It then came out that numerous outlets had interviewed her and didn’t run the story because she wasn’t credible. She then claimed what she meant was that the media was mean to her.
 

sandorski

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Fine. Let’s repeat ad nauseam all the holes.

Yes she was forced out of her position. Oh no I left to pursue different career.

She didn’t object to him becoming VP. Apparently it was out of respect to Obama she didn’t say something. Biden passed the vetting without any of this coming out then.

She supported Biden in #MeToo. So I’m guessing she is now claiming battered spouse since she supports him in 2016.

The sudden liking of Putin. Oh sure she researched and wrote a story to explain this.

The only narrative which confirms with facts was creepy Joe did sniff her hair. All her initial witnesses confirm a harassment. Only after she claimed full blown assault they changed their story.

The flood of editorials from reporters that she’s been shopping this story for now 2 years. Gold digger? NAH

And now she’s being represented by someone linked with. GOP.

But hey, we have 7 people confirming her story. This is all that matters apparently

Not bringing up her financial woes? Your Rape Apologist talking points are incomplete. I especially like insinuating that she was Shopping her Story, nice touch.


Lawyer linked with GOP is also linked to Democratic Party and high profile Sex Assault Cases like with Epstein victims, btw. So maybe that's not a good Talking Point.
 

Vic

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This reporter wrote was is the most fair and reasonable assessment of the entire situation, which lends credibility to Reade’s accusations while also raising concerns. It also quite clearly illustrates why this story will not go away, because Biden is being held to the standard he advocated for.

As many said during the Kavanaugh hearings, this isn’t a trial, its a job interview. Knowing what we know now, I doubt Biden would have won the nomination. Warren and others would have buried him with these accusations, as they did Bloomberg.

Yet again you argue that having standards and failing to meet them (even when the accusation of failure is clearly non-credible and monetized) is worse than having no standards at all.
This must be why you're working so hard to ensure that the pussygrabbing champion of those with no standards gets re-elected.
 
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Vic

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A couple of twists today:
Reade is being represented by a prominent lawyer and political donor to President Donald Trump’s 2016 Republican campaign.
And Reade wants Biden to quit the race.
LOL.
We literally know now that Reade has been paid by Trump and Putin to change her story.
 

sandorski

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The entirety of the corroboration here is another person saying she told them something, only in this case the person she was closest to apparently wasn’t told she was assaulted.

I missed this earlier, but her Ex didn't just say she told him something. He said, "It was obvious that this event had a very traumatic effect on Petitioner, and that she is still sensitive and effected by it today."

Something happened and it left a noticeable mark on her.
 
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