The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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fskimospy

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I missed this earlier, but her Ex didn't just say she told him something. He said, "It was obvious that this event had a very traumatic effect on Petitioner, and that she is still sensitive and effected by it today."

Something happened and it left a noticeable mark on her.

An event totally different than her allegation of sexual assault.

Again, is your argument that she told her neighbor but hid it from her husband? If not, that's the nail in the coffin.
 

sandorski

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Many have grabbed on to every piece of minutia since the beginning. When one fell as a reason, they grabbed onto another, when that fell, another. At some point one needs to see the pattern and the problem with it.
 

Jhhnn

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I have no issue with the suggestion that they both testify. The polygraph thing is, however, a stunt. It's time we stopped even talking about polygraphs. They're the longest running scam in US history.

Testify to whom, exactly?
 

sandorski

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An event totally different than her allegation of sexual assault.

Again, is your argument that she told her neighbor but hid it from her husband? If not, that's the nail in the coffin.

No, it's not. It shows that she trusted her neighbour, a Woman who also was going through something at the time, more than her Husband. That's all.
 

Vic

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Oh, we do do we? That Lawyer also supported Democrats, now what?
Nothing. It is understood why you're pushing this bullshit. In the last 6 weeks more than 20 million Americans have lost their jobs under Trump's leadership, and you're desperate to make sure people aren't talking about that.
 
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fskimospy

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No, it's not. It shows that she trusted her neighbour, a Woman who also was going through something at the time, more than her Husband. That's all.

So to be clear your argument is now that she told her husband about sexual harassment but didn't tell him about sexual assault and that's the reason why the only documented evidence of what she told people back then is at odds with her current story?
 

Jhhnn

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Many have grabbed on to every piece of minutia since the beginning. When one fell as a reason, they grabbed onto another, when that fell, another. At some point one needs to see the pattern and the problem with it.

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty!
 

sandorski

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Nothing. It is understood why you're pushing this bullshit. In the last 6 weeks more than 20 million Americans have lost their jobs under Trump's leadership, and you're desperate to make sure people aren't talking about that.

Ah yes, I'm just getting Trump re-elected...
 

sandorski

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So to be clear your argument is now that she told her husband about sexual harassment but didn't tell him about sexual assault and that's the reason why the only documented evidence of what she told people back then is at odds with her current story?

Her husband knew something happened and noted that it had a lasting affect on her.

You are the one fixated on whether her Neighbour knew more than her Husband. There are reasons why a Wife may not divulge all things to a Husband, if that is the case.
 

fskimospy

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Her husband knew something happened and noted that it had a lasting affect on her.

You are the one fixated on whether her Neighbour knew more than her Husband. There are reasons why a Wife may not divulge all things to a Husband, if that is the case.
No, he said specifically what happened and it wasn't sexual assault.

He said something that is contrary to her current accounting of events so it's important to know why that i
 

sandorski

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Lol how has any of our points against Reade been disproven?

How about the idea that nothing happened or that she just recently concocted the whole thing. Then there are the arguments that Ford had greater corroboration. Or that the people who have come forth were not reliable/telling the truth. Or how about that the Larry King phone call is not her Mother or even related to the Allegations. There are many to choose from.
 

sandorski

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No, he said specifically what happened and it wasn't sexual assault.

He said something that is contrary to her current accounting of events so it's important to know why that i

He said what she told him. Like often is the case, she did not divulge all details.
 

fskimospy

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He said what she told him. Like often is the case, she did not divulge all details.

Ah yes, so it just so happens that the only written, relatively contemporaneous account doesn't include her central allegation because she was telling her neighbors but not her husband.

The things people will believe with motivated reasoning...
 
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eelw

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She changed her allegations a few months ago.

Sure Reade has more people confirming a harassment. None of us are denying creepy Joe sniffed her hair. But none of us believed he pulled a Trump.

When all the witnesses said one thing, but only changed their story recently? Sorry nope not credible.

Again call confirms a harassment. Doesn’t back up her new story at all.

Only reason haven’t blocked the Bernie Bros here, waiting for November and their crying. Unlike the Trumpards in the Arbrey topic. Total asshats.
 
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ivwshane

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Ah yes, so it just so happens that the only written, relatively contemporaneous account doesn't include her central allegation because she was telling her neighbors but not her husband.

The things people will believe with motivated reasoning...

It’s weird isn’t it that every person she talks to and apparently she has talked to a lot of people about this, she always told the same story of sexual harassment (and power dynamics, specifically mentioning it was joe’s aides and not him) and then they all remembered new, more damaging information after talking to her again recently.

Her story not only doesn’t add up but she’s clearly been trying to shop the story around even while reporters are making honest efforts to corroborate her story. The fact that her story changed when she became a Bernie supporter also weakened her credibility.
 

sandorski

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Ah yes, so it just so happens that the only written, relatively contemporaneous account doesn't include her central allegation because she was telling her neighbors but not her husband.

The things people will believe with motivated reasoning...

This one piece of evidence is far more corroboration than Dr Ford ever had. It also happens to be not the only piece, but is 1 of 7ish so far. I'm also going to point out that 1 week ago this Allegation was pronounced Dead and Over. Yet here we are with yet even more Evidence. How much more do you think will turn up soon?

Something happened at that Work place, don't be surprised if something substantial comes to light about it.

So yes, Motivate Reasoning seems alive and well. Who is using it though?
 

fskimospy

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This one piece of evidence is far more corroboration than Dr Ford ever had. It also happens to be not the only piece, but is 1 of 7ish so far. I'm also going to point out that 1 week ago this Allegation was pronounced Dead and Over. Yet here we are with yet even more Evidence. How much more do you think will turn up soon?

Something happened at that Work place, don't be surprised if something substantial comes to light about it.

So yes, Motivate Reasoning seems alive and well. Who is using it though?

The allegation is dead, this is just another nail in the coffin - had she been assaulted a reasonable person would think her husband would know about it and he clearly didn't.

I don't know why you keep desperately clinging to this, it's over.
 

ivwshane

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This one piece of evidence is far more corroboration than Dr Ford ever had. It also happens to be not the only piece, but is 1 of 7ish so far. I'm also going to point out that 1 week ago this Allegation was pronounced Dead and Over. Yet here we are with yet even more Evidence. How much more do you think will turn up soon?

Something happened at that Work place, don't be surprised if something substantial comes to light about it.

So yes, Motivate Reasoning seems alive and well. Who is using it though?

You are and you continue to do so and only the biggest Bernie bro’s support you along with the biggest “both sides” bitch on this forum. You have continuously hand waived away all and any information that has affected her credibility in a negative way.
 

fskimospy

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Yes, maybe something happened at the workplace, but it probably wasn't a sexual assault.
And remember, even that much is disputed by every other person at the workplace. Her entire source of evidence for her claim is she told a bunch of people something happened. That's it.

It doesn't mean it didn't happen, but pretending that because she told 7 people instead of 6 that's suddenly more evidence is kind of pointless, it's the same evidence.
 

eelw

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Lol it’s only alive because she refuses to let it die. Not because she’s demanding justice. She’s ambulance chasing for fame.
 
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