The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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sandorski

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And remember, even that much is disputed by every other person at the workplace. Her entire source of evidence for her claim is she told a bunch of people something happened. That's it.

It doesn't mean it didn't happen, but pretending that because she told 7 people instead of 6 that's suddenly more evidence is kind of pointless, it's the same evidence.

Not true at all. Interns noted something odd.

Dr Ford's entire source of Evidence was that she told her Therapist 30 years later.

Yet another point of Corroboration is yet another point of Corroboration. It does bolster her allegation, especially since so many tried to dismiss every other point as unreliable or even fabricated. How much more do you need? There are numerous People who have come forward, there is a Phone Call, now a Written Court Document all pointing to something significant happening and all near the time when she alleges the event took place.

We're drowning in Red Flags here.
 

fskimospy

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Not true at all. Interns noted something odd.

Dr Ford's entire source of Evidence was that she told her Therapist 30 years later.

Yet another point of Corroboration is yet another point of Corroboration. It does bolster her allegation, especially since so many tried to dismiss every other point as unreliable or even fabricated. How much more do you need? There are numerous People who have come forward, there is a Phone Call, now a Written Court Document all pointing to something significant happening and all near the time when she alleges the event took place.

Now it's 'something happened'. Literally zero evidence of any sexual assault outside her claims, which are constantly changing. Now we see that her own husband at the time didn't know anything about her claim that she was assaulted.

 

sandorski

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Now it's 'something happened'. Literally zero evidence of any sexual assault outside her claims, which are constantly changing. Now we see that her own husband at the time didn't know anything about her claim that she was assaulted.


If it occurred, do you think it is even possible to Prove it?

My statement in no way is moving Goalposts.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Is it possible that Biden's office learned that charges of fraud were brought against her August 2, 1993 and forced her to resign by the end of the week instead of firing her? Would it make sense that she'd lie to her friends and family about the circumstances of her separation from Biden's staff?
 

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VRAMdemon

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Yes, maybe something happened at the workplace, but it probably wasn't a sexual assault.

I suspect, that she experienced some sort of harassment in the early 90s that was "no big deal" back then such as her claim that she was asked to serve drinks at a party or overheard that Biden thought she was pretty and had a nice ass - touched her neck or something to the effect. I suspect that she was sincerely bothered by it and complained. She didn't get any traction on it and that was the basis of her leaving the job (other than she was fired) and her mother's call to which had no mention of assault, just "had issues" and the intake form that doesn't mention harassment or assault, just feeling "uncomfortable" and the court document saying she experienced harassment in Biden's office. I suspect that, when no one especially cared, she upped the ante with the exaggerated assault story which is why none of the documents are about assault, his vetting didn't turn up any allegations of assault, there was no Congressional follow-up while assault was a hot topic, no one else has claimed assault and the only "evidence" comes from her telling people about it months or years after it supposedly occurred.
 
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sandorski

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Is it possible that Biden's office learned that charges of fraud were brought against her August 2, 1993 and forced her to resign by the end of the week instead of firing her? Would it make sense that she'd lie to her friends and family about the circumstances of her separation from Biden's staff?

If so, something or someone within the office should know of it.
 

Jhhnn

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Lol it’s only alive because she refuses to let it die. Not because she’s demanding justice. She’s ambulance chasing for fame.

She probably has an advance on a book deal that she'll never write. A girl's gotta make a living somehow, right?
 
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fskimospy

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I suspect, that she experienced some sort of harassment in the early 90s that was "no big deal" back then such as her claim that she was asked to serve drinks at a party or overheard that Biden thought she was pretty and had a nice ass - touched her neck or something to the effect. I suspect that she was sincerely bothered by it and complained. She didn't get any traction on it and that was the basis of her leaving the job (other than she was fired) and her mother's call to which had no mention of assault, just "had issues" and the intake form that doesn't mention harassment or assault, just feeling "uncomfortable" and the court document saying she experienced harassment in Biden's office. I suspect that, when no one especially cared, she upped the ante with the exaggerated assault story which is why none of the documents are about assault, his vetting didn't turn up any allegations of assault, there was no Congressional follow-up while assault was a hot topic, no one else has claimed assault and the only "evidence" comes from her telling people about it months or years after it supposedly occurred.

Broadly speaking this is my take as well. I think there's a decent chance she experienced things that made her uncomfortable or things that we would likely consider sexual harassment now. Given the lack of evidence we can't be sure but I would rate it as more probable than not.

The assault charge though, that seems like bullshit and really all the available evidence that doesn't come directly from her indicates it didn't happen.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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If so, something or someone within the office should know of it.
What's Occam's razor suggest? A person with a documented history of deceit is being deceptive, or one of most highly regarded senators of our lifetimes perpetrated a sexual assault that only came to light in the year he is running for election to POTUS from a outspoken Putin-lover who retains a lawyer paid by Russia amid public alarms from the intelligence community that Russia is actively meddling in the election?
 

Vic

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Is it possible that Biden's office learned that charges of fraud were brought against her August 2, 1993 and forced her to resign by the end of the week instead of firing her? Would it make sense that she'd lie to her friends and family about the circumstances of her separation from Biden's staff?
Oops.
 

sandorski

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One of Tara Reade's new attorneys donated $55,000 to Trump in 2016. The other is a former writer and editor for a Russian propaganda network.


Notice how everyone that dares to come in contact with her has their lives sifted through? Seems telling.

BTW, dude also supported Democrats. Other Dude worked for a Russian News Agency. Continue colouring reality though.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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What's Occam's razor suggest? A person with a documented history of deceit is being deceptive, or one of most highly regarded senators of our lifetimes perpetrated a sexual assault that only came to light in the year he is running for election to POTUS from a outspoken Putin-lover who retains a lawyer paid by Russia amid public alarms from the intelligence community that Russia is actively meddling in the election?

If you want to use that, what of Biden's history of Lies and odd behaviour with Women?

Again though, if she was Fired/Let go due to Fraud, don't you think there would be a Paper Trail?
 

interchange

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Yet more corroboration.

That she told people at the time she was sexually harassed by Biden. Is there literally anyone who disputes that?

This is another person confirming Reade’s account that was also formally documented. Maybe she only recently felt comfortable revealing the extent of the problem. Reade is also willing to go under oath. You’re running out of field.

1. That formal documentation has been alleged but that's all that I'm aware of
2. Sure, these corroborations of an allegation of sexual harassment at the time do not disprove sexual assault. Not disproving something doesn't make it evidence toward proving it, however
3. If she provides sworn testimony, that should be considered. It would be a much stronger kind of evidence -- same with Biden. They haven't. And she has only conditionally offered sworn testimony. That conditional offer is extremely weak evidence at best for her case, at least until the testimony materializes of course
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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If you want to use that, what of Biden's history of Lies and odd behaviour with Women?
What of them?

Again though, if she was Fired/Let go due to Fraud, don't you think there would be a Paper Trail?
What would you do if your employer went public with the circumstances of your separation, where that information might influence your future employment opportunities negatively? I don't know what the policies are at your place of work, but my human resources department is basically only allowed to disclose date of hire, date of separation, and I *think* whether or not the person is eligible for rehire.

The only people still running with this info op are useful idiots and bad actors. Which one are you?
 

compuwiz1

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While this may not be the singular problem that keeps Biden from becoming president, the cumulative issues will. 37%, according to one poll I read, say he should be replaced with a different candidate. Then are the Bernie bros...22% say they won't vote for him. His head to head polling lead over Trump is also shrinking, down to pretty much a tie, if you believe in polls. I personally don't trust polls. I still submit that Biden will not be President. Might be Trump, or it might be a different Democrat.
 

Starbuck1975

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Yet again you argue that having standards and failing to meet them (even when the accusation of failure is clearly non-credible and monetized) is worse than having no standards at all.
This must be why you're working so hard to ensure that the pussygrabbing champion of those with no standards gets re-elected.
The allegations are credible. Hard to claim the morale high ground with a morally compromised candidate.
 
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