The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

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Vic

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The fundamental disconnect in this thread is the people that think digging up more and more dirt on Reade, her supporters, and the journalists that reported the story are helping to discredit the accusation. They don't get it.

So we're just supposed to ignore all the inconsistencies in her story, along with the sudden timing of it and her political motivations and conflicts of interest? And we're bad people for not doing so?

Yeah, someone doesn't get it, that's for sure. Bernie lost. Get over it.
 

sandorski

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So we're just supposed to ignore all the inconsistencies in her story, along with the sudden timing of it and her political motivations and conflicts of interest? And we're bad people for not doing so?

Yeah, someone doesn't get it, that's for sure. Bernie lost. Get over it.

Dr Ford was accused of the same things.
 

Vic

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I disagree and will leave it at that. Because the fact is that Democrats made a mistake by using Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh. First, because Kavanaugh still got the job. But also because it is ridiculous to create an environment where one person can destroy another simply by making accusations of sexual improprieties from decades earlier, that they had for some reason never come forward with before. Literally no different than witch hunts. I said as much at the time too. There were many legitimate and on-point reasons to want to keep Kavanaugh from the bench. The one the Democrats chose backfired and, unfortunately, for good reason.
 

sandorski

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I disagree and will leave it at that. Because the fact is that Democrats made a mistake by using Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh. First, because Kavanaugh still got the job. But also because it is ridiculous to create an environment where one person can destroy another simply by making accusations of sexual improprieties from decades earlier, that they had for some reason never come forward with before. Literally no different than witch hunts. I said as much at the time too. There were many legitimate and on-point reasons to want to keep Kavanaugh from the bench. The one the Democrats chose backfired and, unfortunately, for good reason.

Fair enough.
 

interchange

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I don't know, however it is curious that no one seems to find issue with it after first denying it outright.

But the evidence changed. When the evidence about a situation changes, you reconsider your position. That works in both directions.

Now, if someone said that it was definitely false that she made a sexual harassment claim at the time, that would be dumb. If you think that happened, point it out with a link.
 

interchange

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I disagree and will leave it at that. Because the fact is that Democrats made a mistake by using Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh. First, because Kavanaugh still got the job. But also because it is ridiculous to create an environment where one person can destroy another simply by making accusations of sexual improprieties from decades earlier, that they had for some reason never come forward with before. Literally no different than witch hunts. I said as much at the time too. There were many legitimate and on-point reasons to want to keep Kavanaugh from the bench. The one the Democrats chose backfired and, unfortunately, for good reason.

That one is tough. I think it meant that, if true, Kavanaugh had no real hope of fessing up to it and pointing to a responsible life later on as evidence this event shouldn't disqualify him from the bench. The premise is so toxic no one would fairly evaluate that question. So then in order to attain the bench, he had to commit perjury. And is that disqualifying in itself?

But I don't agree that such a delay in reporting of a sexual assault should in itself be a problem. That is unfair to trauma victims.
 

ivwshane

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The fundamental disconnect in this thread is the people that think digging up more and more dirt on Reade, her supporters, and the journalists that reported the story are helping to discredit the accusation. They don't get it.

How about from the reporters themselves? Are they credible? Or are they in on the conspiracy too?
 

compuwiz1

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I just saw an interview with her, with Megyn Kelly. She said if Joe will take a polygraph, so will she. It's on YouTube. If you want to watch it, you can find it, since people around here generally don't want to watch vids people post.
 

sportage

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WOW.... This threat STILL HERE ?????
Seriously?
People are actually debating the affairs of Joe Biden when we still have buckets full of crap on Donald Trump to go through?
I think this thread is kept alive by radical far right forum members for only to keep it alive. To keep a nothing alive. To keep kicking that dead horse around.
There is no reason to discuss this Biden thing, not any more, not in todays political world, not with Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh walking the streets. Talk about your FAKE NEWS or better yet NOTHING NEWS..
 

ivwshane

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I just saw an interview with her, with Megyn Kelly. She said if Joe will take a polygraph, so will she. It's on YouTube. If you want to watch it, you can find it, since people around here generally don't want to watch vids people post.

How many people do you know who swear they are being truthful say, “you go first” when given the chance to prove their credibility?
 

pcgeek11

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As I said earlier you’ve never heard of Ed Torrian.

Look him up, you’ll like it.


Enjoyed the read.

My opinion comes from 4 lie detector test(s) I took many many years ago involving some alleged weed smoking. At the time there were no drug tests for MJ.

I took 4 lie detector test on 4 separate days denying that any weed smoking took place by myself and was shown truthful on each and every one.

Proves they aren't worth the electricity used to run them.
 
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woolfe9998

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How many people do you know who swear they are being truthful say, “you go first” when given the chance to prove their credibility?

Exactly. If she is telling the truth, and actually believes that polygraph results are meaningful, she should have taken one already. All she has to do is hire, or have her lawyers hire, an operator. If she passes, she can wave it around to the media and challenge Biden to do the same. Instead she says, "I will if he does." Knowing of course than he's never going to do it because it would be stupid for him to take such a test whether it's true or not. Which means she also knows that she'll never have to take one either.

Her challenge is manipulative and therefore meaningless. If she thinks a polygraph can actually prove or disprove anything, she should be taking one herself without condition or delay.
 
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Jhhnn

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Exactly. If she is telling the truth, and actually believes that polygraph results are meaningful, she should have taken one already. All she has to do is hire, or have her lawyers hire, an operator. If she passes, she can wave it around to the media and challenge Biden to do the same. Instead she says, "I will if he does." Knowing of course than he's never going to do it because it would be stupid for him to take such a test whether it's true or not. Which means she also knows that she'll never have to take one either.

Her challenge is manipulative and therefore meaningless. If she thinks a polygraph can actually prove or disprove anything, she should taking one herself without condition or delay.

Well, yeh, but they're already grasping at straws so she offers them another. She knows her chumps.
 
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Enjoyed the read.

My opinion comes from 4 lie detector test(s) I took many many years ago involving some alleged weed smoking. At the time there were no drug tests for MJ.

I took 4 lie detector test on 4 separate days denying that any weed smoking took place by myself and was shown truthful on each and every one.

Proves they aren't worth the electricity used to run them.

Haha that’s great

Here’s a better link, hopefully there is audio (not working on my iPhone)

 

Caminetto

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I disagree and will leave it at that. Because the fact is that Democrats made a mistake by using Ford's allegations against Kavanaugh. First, because Kavanaugh still got the job. But also because it is ridiculous to create an environment where one person can destroy another simply by making accusations of sexual improprieties from decades earlier, that they had for some reason never come forward with before. Literally no different than witch hunts. I said as much at the time too. There were many legitimate and on-point reasons to want to keep Kavanaugh from the bench. The one the Democrats chose backfired and, unfortunately, for good reason.
I agree with this. However we ought to consider that Ford had no motivation there unless it was a case of mistaken identity. Nor did the Dems have any incentive other than to perhaps piss off tRrump. The Federalist society had 17 clones of Kavanaugh on a list of far right choices, and a$$hat could have gone down the line and one would have been confirmed.
Motivations for Reade on the other hand, OMG!
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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Oi, Redditors are now claiming that Tara Reade was arrested for check fraud the same week she was let go from Biden’s office in 1993. Supposedly it shows up in her background check, which anyone with the right Lexis Nexis credentials can check? I’m calling shens until I see it in mainstream media.

I’m also seeing corroboration from her ex-husband that she mentioned sexual harassment in Biden’s office back in her ‘96 divorce proceedings—“On several occasions petitioner related a problem that she was having at work regarding sexual harassment in U.S. Senator Joe Biden’s office,” Ms. Reade’s ex-husband, Theodore Dronen, said in a court declaration in which he responded to her request for a temporary restraining order against him.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Yeah, you're right. The fact that she poses the challenge this way instead of just getting the test herself is another negative on her credibility.

Everything she does proves her Guilt/sham/[insert negative connotation].


She was asked a question she gave an answer. This is why people at an Under Oath Hearing usually have a Lawyer(s) advising them.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Everything she does proves her Guilt/sham/[insert negative connotation].


She was asked a question she gave an answer. This is why people at an Under Oath Hearing usually have a Lawyer(s) advising them.

Is it quacks like duck...
 
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