The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[fskimospy]

I seem to remember the candidate you supported making quite a big deal about the behavior of surrogates and supporters. And I remember the media dutifully reporting on it.

The only thing I remember is Warren making a big deal out of it because a campaign surrogate said Sanders himself had said something, which is of course why it was reported on. (I never gave a shit if he said it or not, btw) If it's something else I must have missed it, which only underscores my point - even very plugged in people like myself have no idea who these people are and don't care.

It's easy for anyone to mistake the things you care about with the things the average person cares about. Generally Online Politics people get what the average person cares about very, very wrong.

 

[KMFJD]

No.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1244324068351864833

well i'll be damned, both sides have no morals, democrats just try to keep up the facade

 

[Starbuck1975]

Well Ford’s allegations were both more serious and more credible and had direct impact on a congressional proceeding with an extremely short time table (done to protect Kavanaugh).

So like, duh.

Kavanaugh stood accused of being a fratboy douchebag at a time of latch key kids experimenting unsupervised with alcohol and sex. There are no accusations from his professional life.

Biden stands accused of abusing a staffer as a sitting US Senator.

Assuming both are true, one is certainly worst than the other.

If it turns out to be credible then sure, although I doubt much will come of it personally.

But I mean even if he were guilty of this and ten more just like it that wouldn’t really change things in my mind. He’s the nominee and anyone who is the nominee against Trump gets my vote. Period.

Vote blue even if they assault you too. Biden is of higher character than Trump. So was Clinton. That’s not saying much, and being less worst than Trump is not enough to beat him.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Yes, we already know that the only reason you believe her is because it is politically convenient for you do so this time. Which is what makes you the hypocrite, quite obviously.

And are you gonna argue this lie to death like you do every other blatant lie you so hypocritically tell on this forum? Will you go on and on for page after page changing the definitions of common words to suit your lies as usual? Will it be as 'equally rich' as the time you argued for days that serving halal meals in a public school would put non-Muslim food suppliers out of work until you found that the food supplier was Tyson?
Some of us have more important things to do than argue with you and your well-deserved reputation for persistent dishonesty.

I appreciate your concern

 

[Blackjack200]

The only thing I remember is Warren making a big deal out of it because a campaign surrogate said Sanders himself had said something, which is of course why it was reported on. (I never gave a shit if he said it or not, btw) If it's something else I must have missed it, which only underscores my point - even very plugged in people like myself have no idea who these people are and don't care.

It's easy for anyone to mistake the things you care about with the things the average person cares about. Generally Online Politics people get what the average person cares about very, very wrong.

This was a fairly high profile story before the pandemic took over the news. Note that this is a volunteer on a private twitter account, not a paid staffer.

Bernie Staffer Mocked Warren’s Looks, Pete’s Sexuality

The private Twitter account of a newly promoted campaign staffer indicates that at least some of Sen. Bernie Sanders’ most toxic support is coming from inside the house.

www.thedailybeast.com

You've also had plenty to say about Sanders supporters

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You have absolutely no shame.

 

[Blackjack200]

This is definitely a story, we'll see if any of the totally-fair-and-unbiased MSM bothers on reporting it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1244691839497777155

 

[fskimospy]

This was a fairly high profile story before the pandemic took over the news. Note that this is a volunteer on a private twitter account, not a paid staffer.

Guess I missed it, which kind of proves my point.

Bernie Staffer Mocked Warren’s Looks, Pete’s Sexuality

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You have absolutely no shame.

Huh? Looks like you didn’t learn the lesson I was trying to teach you and lo and behold your candidate lost.

My point to you was that people form opinions about candidates in part through their interactions with that candidate’s supporters. When you guys behave badly towards other candidates’ supporters you help alienate them from Bernie because they don’t want to be associated with people like you. It’s not because they read some news story about someone they never heard of, it’s because Bernie Bros were dicks to them personally.

 

[fskimospy]

This is definitely a story, we'll see if any of the totally-fair-and-unbiased MSM bothers on reporting it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1244691839497777155

Glad to see you’re taking on the Trumpkin approach to the media where any time they don’t report things the way you want it’s because they are secretly biased against you.

 

[sandorski]

Glad to see you’re taking on the Trumpkin approach to the media where any time they don’t report things the way you want it’s because they are secretly biased against you.

Have they mentioned it yet?

 

[Blackjack200]

Guess I missed it, which kind of proves my point.



Huh? Looks like you didn’t learn the lesson I was trying to teach you and lo and behold your candidate lost.

My point to you was that people form opinions about candidates in part through their interactions with that candidate’s supporters. When you guys behave badly towards other candidates’ supporters you help alienate them from Bernie because they don’t want to be associated with people like you. It’s not because they read some news story about someone they never heard of, it’s because Bernie Bros were dicks to them personally.

So it doesn't matter what a senior advisor does, but it does matter what individual supporters do? Is that your position?

 

[eelw]

Biden will weather this storm. But it’s necessary for Sanders to officially suspend campaign so Biden can choose Harris as his running mate. So if somehow this accusation becomes damaging, Harris can take over the ticket. She’s a far better choice than Sanders.

 

[sandorski]

Biden will weather this storm. But it’s necessary for Sanders to officially suspend campaign so Biden can choose Harris as his running mate. So if somehow this accusation becomes damaging, Harris can take over the ticket. She’s a far better choice than Sanders.

uh, ya, that makes sense...

 

[Jhhnn]

Biden also has a reputation for being a bit creepy. It could just be a generational thing. Newsweek has an article out now that documents her attempts to go through numerous channels to assert her allegations.

Initially, those details were not known when Democrats rushed to believe Dr. Ford and demand an investigation. Not seeing anywhere near a comparable benefit of the doubt extended to the victim in response to the allegations against Biden.

The truth of the matter is that Biden's accuser changed her story. That renders anything she or any of her supporters say as untrustworthy. The end.

 

[sandorski]

The truth of the matter is that Biden's accuser changed her story. That renders anything she or any of her supporters say as untrustworthy. The end.

Different details.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The truth of the matter is that Biden's accuser changed her story. That renders anything she or any of her supporters say as untrustworthy. The end.

She volunteered additional details, placing herself in the political crosshairs. It’s not at all surprising who is dismissing these allegations.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

We have clearly established otherwise in this thread, and all you have been able to to is misstate some basic facts of the Kavanaugh case and not admit it even when called out about it. I will conclude your failure to effectively respond to my posts and continuing to fail to cite sources for yours is a concession at this point. I will agree at least that your hypocrisy would be considered stunning, although as noted your pattern of "arguing" on this forum means this is not the case.

Yawn.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You have ZERO credibility because you support the guy who admitted he is a sexual predator.

Why should anyone believe a word that spills out of your fucking mouth???

Say it for me Homer "grab women by the pussy" Except NOW you're talking about fucking creepy Uncle Joe Biden who actually did it! Isn't that a funny one? How many hundreds, if not thousands of times have we seen that posted in this forum? Except now when it's posted we all KNOW it's being posted about Joe Biden when he actually did it to Tara Reade in a sexual assault.

The HYPOCRISY IT BURNS !

 

[fskimospy]

So it doesn't matter what a senior advisor does, but it does matter what individual supporters do? Is that your position?

Right, toxic personal encounters matter to people. What random advisers say does not. What's unclear about this?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Please source that claim.

Answered by Fskimospy in a previous post and now you dismiss Tara Reade because she changed her story while accepting all the changes that Ford made in her testimony.

THE HYPOCRISY from you BURNS!
while i'm laughing at your sanctimony of course.

 

[Blackjack200]

Right, toxic personal encounters matter to people. What random advisers say does not. What's unclear about this?

Speak for yourself, I care more about a campaign's senior staff obscuring their past statements for political gain than I do about someone being mean to me online.

 

[fskimospy]

Speak for yourself, I care more about a campaign's senior staff obscuring their past statements for political gain than I do about someone being mean to me online.

Haha I have no doubt.

 

[KMFJD]

what a great new slogan

 

[imported_tajmahal]

We have clearly established otherwise in this thread, and all you have been able to to is misstate some basic facts of the Kavanaugh case and not admit it even when called out about it. I will conclude your failure to effectively respond to my posts and continuing to fail to cite sources for yours is a concession at this point. I will agree at least that your hypocrisy would be considered stunning, although as noted your pattern of "arguing" on this forum means this is not the case.

I "believe" in God. It's not evidence. When a friend of Ford's says "I believe her" it isn't evidence either, it's faith and therefore not admissible. The friend Ford claimed she told at the time of the alleged incident had absolutely no memory of her telling her. It's not evidence.

Compare it to Tara Reade who's brother and friend clearly recall the incident when she told them about it right after it happened. Do you see the difference? One has corroborating evidence and it ain't Ford.

 

[Jhhnn]

Different details.

She volunteered additional details, placing herself in the political crosshairs. It’s not at all surprising who is dismissing these allegations.

Yeh, right. You're just trolling now. We went from "he touched my shoulders & ran his fingers down my neck" to "he grabbed me by the pussy!"

Just minor details, obviously.

 

[soundforbjt]

Compare it to Tara Reade who's brother and friend clearly recall the incident when she told them about it right after it happened. Do you see the difference? One has corroborating evidence and it ain't Ford.

Which version are they telling/claiming? Her original or the new improved rapier one?