The Joe Biden sexual assault allegation

[Aegeon]

Here is the thing, though. She characterized it as Biden expecting her to be ready to go. She said he "thought she was into him." So if we assume she is telling the truth, then he wouldn't have been worried about her screaming for police, since he wouldn't have considered it assault. At the very worst, if everything she said was true, he would be guilty of taking an overly aggressive shot at a subordinate and then pulling the bitch male "you're nothing to me" response to being rejected.

The problem with this explanation is Biden would have fallen under the "crazy misjudgments and risks until he was caught red handed" if this scenario was true. Basically if Biden's approach was to basically out of the blue engage in this sort of thing in an open area with a subordinate just because he wrongly thought she was "into hin" when this was not the case at all, its hard to see how on earth he would not have gotten caught sooner or later during his political career on top of the issue of why no-one else has come forward with a truly comparable story. (It was also clearly not actually an appropriate thing to do in such a public area even if it was 100% consensual by the way, so it still would have been risky even in a scenario where Reade actually was "into him" incidentally.)

 

[fskimospy]

All those articles say on the subject are

1 a denial of the allegations/the allegations are in various persons opinions out of character for Biden

2 she worked there from January to August

3 she abruptly was removed from working as some kind of Manager for Interns

That is all those articles cover. It is the third situation that remains a mystery. Why the demotion and why hasn't anyone offered an explanation about it? Something happened, what?

It’s interesting to see how you’ve gone from ‘you are enabling rape’ to ‘but shouldn’t someone rebut this part of her story that she’s changed three times?’

I think you are now harboring doubts as to her credibility too.

 

[Aegeon]

All those articles say on the subject are...

2 she worked there from January to August

3 she abruptly was removed from working as some kind of Manager for Interns

The problems with her explanations again involve while she has recently outright stated she was fired, (and allegedly told that to one of the witnesses in the past at least supposedly now backing her story) she also wrote the following as recently as April of 2019.

I wish I could say there was a happy ending, that Senator Biden apologized or that he helped make amends, he did not. I do not even know if he realized why I left.

Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden

Alexandra Tara Reade’s accusations of sexual assault against Joe Biden appear very questionable once the story is fully investigated.

medium.com

Clearly this does not remotely fit with a scenario where she was outright fired, and even assuming a protective office loyal staff for Biden, the idea they would not even warn him she had filed some sort of complaint and they had retaliated against her makes no sense, so there seems to be no explanation why Reade would have thought he may have had no idea why she left. (So the story does not truly fit with an actual demotion in retaliation for filing a complaint earlier. The article also notes that Reade had provided completely different explanations earlier than this.)

 

[Jhhnn]

It’s interesting to see how you’ve gone from ‘you are enabling rape’ to ‘but shouldn’t someone rebut this part of her story that she’s changed three times?’

I think you are now harboring doubts as to her credibility too.

You're granting him a certain sincerity that's undeserved.

 

[sandorski]

If they were part of her official record, then yes they would be.

That's the thing though, I'm not sure many Memos would be. Nevertheless, there has to be an Official reason for her Demotion/cessation of Managing the Interns. It might be completely benign or otherwise, but it must exist.

 

[sandorski]

It’s interesting to see how you’ve gone from ‘you are enabling rape’ to ‘but shouldn’t someone rebut this part of her story that she’s changed three times?’

I think you are now harboring doubts as to her credibility too.

The Interns themselves noted the sudden demotion. What happened? Left unanswered it lends support to Reades explanation.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's the thing though, I'm not sure many Memos would be. Nevertheless, there has to be an Official reason for her Demotion/cessation of Managing the Interns. It might be completely benign or otherwise, but it must exist.

So dishonest. Only Reade can legally release such information. Former employers can only verify dates of employment. That may be all they've retained 27 years after the fact.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Interns themselves noted the sudden demotion. What happened? Left unanswered it lends support to Reades explanation.

Don't embellish the facts. They merely noted her sudden absence.

 

[fskimospy]

The Interns themselves noted the sudden demotion. What happened? Left unanswered it lends support to Reades explanation.

Which one of her four different explanations? Haha.

 

[DisarmedDespot]

The Interns themselves noted the sudden demotion. What happened? Left unanswered it lends support to Reades explanation.

Which explanation? It'd also support her leaving due to a sudden move or due to disgust at imperialism.

The burden of proof lies on the one making the claim. Biden's office can't release private employee documents without their consent, and Reade says she already has her employment docs. Why doesn't she release them?

 

[Jhhnn]

The problems with her explanations again involve while she has recently outright stated she was fired, (and allegedly told that to one of the witnesses in the past at least supposedly now backing her story) she also wrote the following as recently as April of 2019.

Evidence Casts Doubt on Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegations of Joe Biden

Alexandra Tara Reade’s accusations of sexual assault against Joe Biden appear very questionable once the story is fully investigated.

medium.com

Clearly this does not remotely fit with a scenario where she was outright fired, and even assuming a protective office loyal staff for Biden, the idea they would not even warn him she had filed some sort of complaint and they had retaliated against her makes no sense, so there seems to be no explanation why Reade would have thought he may have had no idea why she left. (So the story does not truly fit with an actual demotion in retaliation for filing a complaint earlier. The article also notes that Reade had provided completely different explanations earlier than this.)

If he grabbed her by the pussy & she resigned, he'd obviously know why. Duh fucking Duh.

 

[sandorski]

I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no defence of Employment decisions can be made when a former employee has made accusations against the Employer. Perhaps the Employment documents can not be published for all to see, but there must be a recourse in this type a situation where some counter point can be made in defence of an accusation.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Also if she was let without notice...that`s is OK!! Because in most states that are right to work states you can be let for for no reason....

 

[BUTCH1]

Failure to pay bills is not Fraud. Clearly she has times in her life where she was struggling financially.

Seems like those "times" are RIGHT NOW, broke, fat, ugly, unwanted, irrelevant, unreliable and low enough to bilk a non-profit animal shelter for $1,400 for her vet bills. The non-profit she was hiding her vehicle on to avoid the Repo man. Yup, 1st class accuser all the way.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no defence of Employment decisions can be made when a former employee has made accusations against the Employer. Perhaps the Employment documents can not be published for all to see, but there must be a recourse in this type a situation where some counter point can be made in defence of an accusation.

what defense....way back when or now.....seems like if she was really bothered by being let go she would have reported it to the proper people to look into why she was let go or to look into her allegations..
But, and I say but again -- what if she knew she was let go with cause and furthermore what if she also knew she was legitimately let go and as such knew there was no recourse.....
Let us take this further what if she knew that Biden would be running for president and as such $$$$$$, perhaps she figured (wrongly I might add) that she could haold Biden campaign for a nice little payday for her to just go away?
If you look at the time line and her constantly changing the facts...the only conclusion you can make is she expected to make some huge $$$$ off this allegations.....by the way -- where is her lawyer in all this??

 

[sandorski]

Seems like those "times" are RIGHT NOW, broke, fat, ugly, unwanted, irrelevant, unreliable and low enough to bilk a non-profit animal shelter for $1,400 for her vet bills. The non-profit she was hiding her vehicle on to avoid the Repo man. Yup, 1st class accuser all the way.

A lot of people experience financial hard times. Especially Single Mothers.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Seems like those "times" are RIGHT NOW, broke, fat, ugly, unwanted, irrelevant, unreliable and low enough to bilk a non-profit animal shelter for $1,400 for her vet bills. The non-profit she was hiding her vehicle on to avoid the Repo man. Yup, 1st class accuser all the way.

JediYoda the clairvoyant says -- I sense she is a woman of much integrity and honestly and an outstanding quest for truth and justice and $$$$$$.........

 

[JEDIYoda]

A lot of people experience financial hard times. Especially Single Mothers.

True!! But most don`t hide their cars from the repoman or bilk non profit animal shelters out of money!! Nice try though..........

 

[sandorski]

what defense....way back when or now.....seems like if she was really bothered by being let go she would have reported it to the proper people to look into why she was let go or to look into her allegations..
But, and I say but again -- what if she knew she was let go with cause and furthermore what if she also knew she was legitimately let go and as such knew there was no recourse.....
Let us take this further what if she knew that Biden would be running for president and as such $$$$$$, perhaps she figured (wrongly I might add) that she could haold Biden campaign for a nice little payday for her to just go away?
If you look at the time line and her constantly changing the facts...the only conclusion you can make is she expected to make some huge $$$$ off this allegations.....by the way -- where is here lawyer in all this??

If she was let go for Cause, don't you think that would defend Biden in this accusation?

 

[Jhhnn]

I find it exceedingly difficult to believe that no defence of Employment decisions can be made when a former employee has made accusations against the Employer. Perhaps the Employment documents can not be published for all to see, but there must be a recourse in this type a situation where some counter point can be made in defence of an accusation.

More dishonesty. I'm sure she had recourse 27 years ago. Such things have an expiration date that's long past.

 

[JEDIYoda]

If she was let go for Cause, don't you think that would defend Biden in this accusation?

I did not say it didn`t defend Biden!1 Why do you keep on keeping on with this charade?
You do understans there are such thing as privacy laws? You also realize that when a prospective employer calls your past employer seeking information about you that you past employer cannot divulge whey you were let go or even id you were let go.....all they can do is give the dates you were employed and if they so choose they can say you were a good employee! In this case it is what is not said about your employment that breaks the camels back!!

 

[Jhhnn]

If she was let go for Cause, don't you think that would defend Biden in this accusation?

I seriously doubt that such records have been maintained over the years. Employers constantly pare down their old records, keeping only what the law demands. They kept the dates of employment. For their purposes, the rest became irrelevant long ago.

 

[sandorski]

True!! But most don`t hide their cars from the repoman or bilk non profit animal shelters out of money!! Nice try though..........

This whole line of criticism reeks of Character Assassination. The amount of people who don't pay their Bills, declare Bankruptcy, avoid the Repoman numbers in the millions. People falling on hard times is a fact of life for a large part of society and isn't in itself a Character flaw.

My problem with the rebuttals I am getting is that they are all too familiar and similar to what Rape Apologists use. Clearly she has made mistakes, so have so many others. These mistakes are not rebuttals of what she has alleged Biden has done though.

You guys might be right, absolutely, but if you are wrong and this event happened, you are really really wrong.

 

[sandorski]

I seriously doubt that such records have been maintained over the years. Employers constantly pare down their old records, keeping only what the law demands. They kept the dates of employment. For their purposes, the rest became irrelevant long ago.

That might be, does that apply in a Congressional office though?

 

[JEDIYoda]

This whole line of criticism reeks of Character Assassination. The amount of people who don't pay their Bills, declare Bankruptcy, avoid the Repoman numbers in the millions. People falling on hard times is a fact of life for a large part of society and isn't in itself a Character flaw.

My problem with the rebuttals I am getting is that they are all too familiar and similar to what Rape Apologists use. Clearly she has made mistakes, so has so many others. These mistakes are not rebuttals of what she has alleged Biden has done though.

You guys might be right, absolutely, but if you are wrong and this event happened, you are really really wrong.

Your problem lies in the fact you seem to be so invested in this scam that you will never be able to actually see the what is really going on! Why? Because you do dearly want this to be 100% true!!
As Yoda would say -- Amazing, your hatred for Biden is!