Do you ever think? The phenomenon of projection is nothing more than seeing ones self hate which is repressed and denied in ones own self awareness onto somebody else where the ego permits it to be seen.
All of Moonie's talk of self-hatred is merely projection, that's all it's ever been.
*snicker* You went back a month, for that? Aww, were you fishing for something to be pissy about? Poor kid.
Who hates themselves?
?????
Is there some kind of expiration date that exempts posts from criticism after a point? What difference does it make to you?
Seems like you're just fishing for something to be pissy about, eh?
Yes, I do. You should try it sometime.
They hate each other. If you think of humanity as a whole then hating each other means humanity hates themselves. Not individually, but as a society.
I'm not saying that's what Moonbeam means, just that it's the way I see it. I can't speak for him only he can do that.
Most people don't individually hate themselves, but they often do things that are self harming. So it may appear as if they hate themselves when they really don't. They do so because 9/10 decisions are emotionally driven, outside of conscious awareness. Decisions with this origin usually do not by default take into account long term consequences. Sometimes not even short term consequences.
Most people don't individually hate themselves, but they often do things that are self harming. So it may appear as if they hate themselves when they really don't.
*verbal diarrhea*
The main problem here is that your spirituality is a farce, your wisdom is contrived (stolen from bad `70s New Age esoterica), and the only thing you do understand (which you suppress) is how much you hate your own miserable existence, evident by the way you project your own pain and insecurities onto everyone else. So you then run around here trying to convince everyone that they're filled with as much self-hate as you are, because misery loves company.
Seriously, how you haven't already formed Heaven's Gate 2.0, and decided to spiritually hitch a ride on a passing comet, is a complete fucking mystery. Did they stop making black and purple Nikes or something? :\
We are told ad nauseam about how - without God, without religion - humankind wouldn't have morality. And as long as we atheists accept that "moral behavior" can include rape and murder, I guess we have no basis to disagree.
This point is brought home (yet again, as if we need so many reminders) by an incident from India.
It seems that a calf went missing in a village, and a man from the village was rumored (in the village temple - because of course that's where morality is disseminated) to have brought meat from the calf to his home, to feed his family. (Wow, pretty outrageous stuff.) Anyway, whether the rumor was true or not, a mob descended on the man's home and beat the man to death. One of the man's sons was also beaten, and is near death. The mob - inflamed with the spirit of moral righteousness - also attempted to molest the man's daughter (hey, when you know you're on the right side of God, almost anything you do is "moral;" that's one of the great things about religion).
Not that it actually matters, but I'm absolutely certain that if it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was not a speck of beef in the man's home, the members of the mob will surely turn themselves in and freely admit their guilt. They won't hem and haw and pretend it was anyone but themselves who did the righteous deeds. Because when God's morality is your guide, you just know what the right thing to do is.
*Hands Moonbeam a Light Grenade behind his back*
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I hate you
You hate me
You hate you
I hate me
We're a perfect family
For you, Londo, something from a Zen Master:
Everyone is enlightened. It would be nice to know it.
It would be nice if you dropped your silly charade, most in here can see through it.
< --- the self hate is strong in this one.......It would be nice if you dropped your silly charade, most in here can see through it.
Valid question, why did God create such chaotic world, why did he allow for such misery when it was all pre-known to him. Honestly it keep crossing my mind every now and then.God
"I created these humans, gave them a perfect place to live, all their needs met including immortality, and after all I gave them what do they do, first the woman listens to that no good serpent and eats the forbidden fruit and then her husband who should know better eats it too,
and today all their descendants are constantly up to no good , lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, constantly looking on how to get over on someone else's back not realizing except for a few of them that they are actually destroying themselves and the planet they live on,
How can such imperfection come from perfection?"
This thread could go on forever. Problem is, it looks like we haven't reached any points of agreement whatsoever.
Valid question, why did God create such chaotic world, why did he allow for such misery when it was all pre-known to him. Honestly it keep crossing my mind every now and then.
Valid question, why did God create such chaotic world, why did he allow for such misery when it was all pre-known to him. Honestly it keep crossing my mind every now and then.
< --- the self hate is strong in this one.......
I see no charade in moonies case!!
How does that make sense? What would cause a person to do self destructive things without some motive for doing them. What could the motive possibly be.
You think a murderous psychopath has some important insight regarding atheism v religion?
Well, Hitler was an atheist....