The Jussie Smollett Affair

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I agree. America does tend to forgive a genuine apology.

His problem is that he made it overtly racial, and then doubled down on it. That puts him in a pretty deep hole,

He tripled down and he already performed the sit-down interviews where he lied to the camera. There is little remorse to forgive when the opportunity was already presented.
 
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Are you serious? He is trying to act as if he doesn't know the guys?

He knows them in employment. He knows them in friendship on social media. He knows them from working out with them. He (likely) knows them from communicating with them on his cell phone... And he is trying to go through his lawyer and act as if he doesn't know them at all?

This honestly takes a special kind of stupid - but considering what he started with, something tell me he will continue to impress us.

The fact of the matter is that policemen / investigators aren't stupid. They know how people act. They know how to gather evidence. He will play right into their hands.

 

Ichinisan

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Are you serious? He is trying to act as if he doesn't know the guys?

He knows them in employment. He knows them in friendship on social media. He knows them from working out with them. He (likely) knows them from communicating with them on his cell phone... And he is trying to go through his lawyer and act as if he doesn't know them at all?


He's pretending to be devastated to "learn" that his friends did this to him.
 
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The minute the two men were arrested, he appeared to have responded by hiring Michael Cohen's criminal defense attorney. Of course the defense strategy is deniability. Their job is to keep him out of jail.

I just figure that is... beyond a doubt the HARDEST thing to approve in court. It's pretty hard to deny you know someone when you have years and years of evidence that is publicly available online, at your employer (witness evidence), and more....

Seems like a stupid game to play.
 
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Jaskalas

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I just figure that is... beyond a doubt the HARDEST thing to approve in court. It's pretty hard to deny you know someone when you have years and years of evidence that is publicly available online, at your employer (witness evidence), and more....

Seems like a stupid game to play.

He won't deny knowing them now, he'll say they are lying.
 

Mai72

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I don't get it. What is he getting by lying? If this is true, he just ruined his reputation. He might even be let go from the show that he's in.
 
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I don't get it. What is he getting by lying? If this is true, he just ruined his reputation. He might even be let go from the show that he's in.

Tons of publicity - which has already been proven.

On top of that, there were some apparent talks that his position/acting on the show "Empire" was going under.

To that - I don't really follow/understand - but I don't really play social justice olympics... Was the media company going to feel sorry for him and give him another part of the show? I have no clue.
 

Ichinisan

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I just figure that is... beyond a doubt the HARDEST thing to approve in court. It's pretty hard to deny you know someone when you have years and years of evidence that is publicly available online, at your employer (witness evidence), and more....

Seems like a stupid game to play.
He didn't deny that he knows them. He said he's devastated to learn it was them.
 
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He didn't deny that he knows them. He said he's devastated to learn it was them.

He won't deny knowing them now, he'll say they are lying.

Still - communication is a 2-way street... Phone records being a perfect example. Seems hard to deny - not just knowing them... but I mean, if someone attacked me it would be hard for me to answer "Why did you call your attackers 20 minutes after you were attacked?"
 
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I just hope you guys wash that double-sided dildo that you've been enjoying before you return it to the cubby.

I gotta admit, I had to contribute and put a like to this post since it was so well done.

But... I do have to say... I hope at the very least that it was cleaned off from you and the previous liberal posts from your prior 10+ threads
 

Greenman

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I'm really pissed off at this guy. I was willing to believe his initial story because circumstances today made it plausible. Also didn't think someone would toss away a career like that.

He is a traitor to both the LGBTQ and black communities who gave him nothing but love after telling his story. He may have no idea how much of a setback this is for people reporting real hate crimes.

He needs to be charged with filing a false police report and suffer the consequences.

At some point he needs to confess his motive.
No one likes being played.
From a couple of quotes I've read, my wild ass guess is it was all about proving Trump driven racism.

I'd like to think that no one here will take you to task over defending what you believed was right.
 

woolfe9998

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They need to throw the book at this guy. Incidents like this undermine public confidence in the reporting of actual hate crimes, of which there are many.

AFAIK there is one charge which can be leveled, making a false police report. It's a felony. Typically 1-2 years.

Which is probably why they let the Nigerian brothers go. Because it isn't a crime to participate in a fake attack. Only if you report it to police.
 
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UglyCasanova

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Ok legitimate question. Based on what has occurred and Jussie orchestrated a hoax attack to blame white people for attacking him would you consider him to be a racist? Because Jussie is black is it possible for him to be racist? He seems to be trying to fan racial tensions and paint whites as being dangerous and that blacks should fear them. This was a hoax of course but due to the underlying racial elements and the picture he was trying to paint would you consider Jussie to be a racist?
 

UglyCasanova

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AFAIK there is one charge which can be leveled, making a false police report. It's a felony. Typically 1-2 years.


The mailing of a letter with a white powder crosses into federal territory and he’s looking at some charges a lot heavier than just filing the false report.

I th8nk Chicago PD played this thing perfectly. They probably knew this was bs from the get go but played it cool with the media saying he’s not a suspect in order to let Jussie keep digging his hole. Coupled with good detective work they identified the brothers and boom all unraveled from there. So good job CPD.
 
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