The Jussie Smollett Affair

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HomerJS

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This is why you don't think it's True or False without evidence. No reason to take a side without evidence.
I chose to believe him because circumstances made it plausible. I also said waiting for evidence to come in before concluding true or false. I never said it was conclusively true.
 

HomerJS

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It's easy to understand WHY someone would do this when you're constantly told by the media and the public that you're a victim. You want to believe it so much that you're willing to attempt to fake it.
Again, we don't know why he did it.
 

Ichinisan

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His hand-writing on it can easily be traced back. On top of that - when they raided the house of the Nigerian friends, they listed in their evidence magazines and stamps.....

...The letter had magazines cut-outs and obviously utilized a stamp.
The handwriting was deliberately distorted. If that was such an easy / sure thing then Robert Durst would have been linked to the murder of Susan Berman long before the HBO documentary uncovered new evidence.
 

UglyCasanova

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I chose to believe him because circumstances made it plausible. I also said waiting for evidence to come in before concluding true or false. I never said it was conclusively true.


Bruh you were pretty heavily vested in this thread and attacking those of us that said it smells fishy.
 

HomerJS

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Ok legitimate question. Based on what has occurred and Jussie orchestrated a hoax attack to blame white people for attacking him would you consider him to be a racist? Because Jussie is black is it possible for him to be racist? He seems to be trying to fan racial tensions and paint whites as being dangerous and that blacks should fear them. This was a hoax of course but due to the underlying racial elements and the picture he was trying to paint would you consider Jussie to be a racist?
Anyone is capable of being racist. I would guess he has some mental issues to deal with or is just a scheming motherfucker. I put him in the same category as Susan Smith. Remember her kids were kidnapped and killed. She blamed 2 black guys. I don't know if she was personally racist but she knew society would find her situation plausible.

JS know the current situation in the country where hate crimes, racist attacks and anti Semitism are spiking under Trump so orchestrating this scenario made the story plausible.
 
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HomerJS

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Bruh you were pretty heavily vested in this thread and attacking those of us that said it smells fishy.
I said BEFORE police report issued there are reasons to doubt the story. What irks me are the same cast of characters who's first response are black people make up their stories. Turns out this time you were right.
 

HomerJS

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I just feel like he's pushing it too far, with the interviews and all the things he said, and now issues a forceful denial saying he's "angry" at people who don't believe him. At some point you cross the Rubicon and there is just too much shame in ever admitting it.

Trump says false things which he knows can be verified as false not only by media fact checkers, but often by anyone with a google prompt and a functional frontal lobe. I suspect Smollett will just do the same - deny in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

The common trait there is that of narcissism. Only a narcissist would pull a stunt like this. He wasn't going to be written off the show. It was never anything that pedestrian. His fame as a supporting player on a moderately popular TV series wasn't enough. He craved attention.

Sadly, I agree with many of your remarks about the victim culture which may have contributed to this. It's an unfortunate consequence of what is, in my opinion, an otherwise noble venture.
Yet the same people who want to trash Jussie and he deserves it will tolerate the exact same behavior from Trump.

Maybe some of his peeps can answer that one.
 
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Starbuck1975

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Yet the same people who want to trash Jussie and he deserves it will tolerate the exact same behavior from Trump.

Maybe some of his peeps can answer that one.
Trump supporters never will, but nonsense like this will help him win a second term.
 

kage69

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Pretty despicable, I guess he thought it would be an easy sell for a gay black Jew? Reminds me of the Jewish grave defacement that happened awhile ago, which turned out to be a hoax too IIRC.

As much as I resent his attempt to what looks like 'create his own fake news,' part of me is glad this is as far as it went. You want to do something stupid for the sake of politics, limit it to yourself. I'm glad he didn't take a cue from those he's against and shoot someplace up, start a mail bombing campaign, or kill someone with Daddy's Charger. While pathetic and dishonest, I'll take this kind of BS over the kind that gets people killed any day of the week.

Feel free to start caring about other people lying too Trump people. I don't recall any trumpets being contrite over Jade Helm, the Bowling Green Massacre or Hillary's Pizza and Sex Dungeon.
 
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HomerJS

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Pretty despicable, I guess he thought it would be an easy sell for a gay black Jew? Reminds me of the Jewish grave defacement that happened awhile ago, which turned out to be a hoax too IIRC.

As much as I resent his attempt to what looks like 'create his own fake news,' part of me is glad this is as far as it went. You want to do something stupid for the sake of politics, limit it to yourself. I'm glad he didn't take a cue from those he's against and shoot someplace up, start a mail bombing campaign, or kill someone with Daddy's Charger. While pathetic and dishonest, I'll take this kind of BS over the kind that gets people getting killed any day of the week.

Feel free to start caring about other people lying too Trump people. I don't recall any trumpets being contrite over Jade Helm, the Bowling Green Massacre or Hillary's Pizza and Sex Dungeon.
or accusing Obama of committing a felony against him, or proclaiming most undocumented people from Mexico are rapists and murderers.

Jussie took a page right out of the Trump playbook. Difference between me and them I don't tolerate it from ANYONE. His supporters will tolerate him doing the very same thing.
 
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Dari

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This man is sick in the head. This is a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Bill Maher has it as well. Waiting for all the liberal hypocrisy where they conveniently forget about this sick bastard after the cops take him into custody. It'll be like the Virginia governor scandal where they're saying he's not the same man from his college days and he should be given a second chance. Funny, how they have a Jesus moment with a racist governor but were rabid against Kavanaugh. Bunch of sick socialists.
 

HomerJS

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This man is sick in the head. This is a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Bill Maher has it as well. Waiting for all the liberal hypocrisy where they conveniently forget about this sick bastard after the cops take him into custody. It'll be like the Virginia governor scandal where they're saying he's not the same man from his college days and he should be given a second chance. Funny, how they have a Jesus moment with a racist governor but were rabid against Kavanaugh. Bunch of sick socialists.
He didn't do it because he hates Trump, it was a means to some end.

Susan Smith blaming black people was a means to absolve her own guilt.
 

Dari

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He didn't do it because he hates Trump, it was a means to some end.

Susan Smith blaming black people was a means to absolve her own guilt.
Yeah, he's also an attention whore and a professional victim. And let's not forget the sold-out performances. Black, gay & Jewish, a trifecta as was said in the OP so he figured no one would question his credentials of being a victim. But you could tell he was lying from the ABC interview and his earlier actions. A lot of victims are reluctant to relive their abuse. Most don't want to talk about it. Instead, this guy does a show the very next day; is tweeting all the time; calls himself the gay Tupac and goes on and on about being a victim in the Trump era and how he fought back and teaching gay children to be strong blah blah blah. It's all so pathetic and nauseating and any detective worth his pay would see this guy is a fake.
 

kage69

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This man is sick in the head.

Quite possibly.

This is a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

No, he's not a Trump supporter. By definition he can't be suffering from what makes people think there is nothing wrong with Trump.

Bill Maher has it as well.

False again, but it's interesting how Trump is used to represent the right, but a small time actor and a talk show host represent the left. Shows how 'comparison' is a function largely without context for trumpets, which renders that diversion as lame as the rest of them. For you to bring him into this means he probably hurt your poor feels somehow. The truth, she hurts, I know.


Waiting for all the liberal hypocrisy where they conveniently forget about this sick bastard after the cops take him into custody.

You're waiting for liberals to act like conservatives did with Dylan Roof? Robert Lewis Dear Jr? Cesar Sayoc? Liberals are still trying to argue Al Franken. Turn off the Fox Noise dari, it's making your head soft again.

It'll be like the Virginia governor scandal where they're saying he's not the same man from his college days and he should be given a second chance. Funny, how they have a Jesus moment with a racist governor but were rabid against Kavanaugh. Bunch of sick socialists.

There you go showing that context difficulty again. The notion of sexual assault kind of changes things, I suppose it shouldn't come as a shock a trump defender can't appreciate the distinction. Fun fact, Boof Kavanaugh's behavior, plus the perjury, happened in real time and was entirely sufficient to count him as unfit for the USSC. Dems wanted a real investigation, and have asked for them again in Virginia. You don't think about this much before posting, do you?
 
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realibrad

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I chose to believe him because circumstances made it plausible. I also said waiting for evidence to come in before concluding true or false. I never said it was conclusively true.

Then maybe I don't understand you. How do you believe him but not believe it's true or false? What is it that you are believing him about, and what is not true/false?
 

umbrella39

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Very, very telling how our forum members embrace the lies and racism up until a black person is the perp. The only difference... Once one sides lies are exposed there is instant condemnation... I'll leave it up to you all to ascertain which side digs their heels in and which side relents...
 
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Starbuck1975

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Very, very telling how our forum members embrace the lies and racism up until a black person is the perp. The only difference... Once one sides lies are exposed and there is instant condemnation... I'll leave it up to you all to ascertain which side digs their heels in and which side relents...
Very telling that some forum members so desperately want this thread to be about anything other than the topic because the original premise turned out to be lemming alarmism. The mental gymnastics are quite impressive.
 

umbrella39

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Except no one is doing that. Even the most voiciferous supporter of the dubious claim instsntly backed down and condemed after the facts came out .. Been away for a few months and it's impressive how some are so dazzled by their own bullshit... Heels dug in deep... Let us know when conservatives care about the truth... Pft
 
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