The Jussie Smollett Affair

[CZroe]

Oh, do you take UC's comments as sincere?

If so, I have a wall to sell you and don't worry, Mexico will pay for it.

You have some kind of sourcing for this info, right? A couple links... something?

He was deliberately insincere to mock someone who indisputably deserves it (Jussie Smollett). I don’t see why you have a problem with it. We all agree that Jussie is trash, so your outburst seems a bit... misdirected.

Explain... with sources and links. I might just hand-wave and ignore them after you go through the trouble (like you tried to do to me). Main difference: I won’t be the one making a fool of myself by refusing to acknowledge reality.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Have him on ignore but clicked view to see what your were talking about. He called me trash for making a joke

So Jackstar you’re 100% correct I’m not being sincere when I posted this:

Jussie seems pretty down over this. Everybody makes mistakes, don’t beat yourself up over it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Smollett returned to the set of Empire today. Fox is certainly scratching their heads on how to deal with this one lol.

He only needs to keep up the charade for less than two weeks, to complete filming the remainder of the season. We'll see if Fox lets this slide until then. It's in all their interests to do so.

 

[CZroe]

Have him on ignore but clicked view to see what your were talking about. He called me trash for making a joke

So Jackstar you’re 100% correct I’m not being sincere when I posted this:

His world has just been flipped upside-down by the realization that he was completely wrong about Trayvon Martin. The ramifications are blowing his mind. “If I was so sure about this and ended up being completely wrong, how can I ever be sure of anything?! What other lies on this level have I mindlessly accepted? This calls into question everything I ever thought I knew.”

He now sees just how easily manipulated the public (including himself) is when the media can even lie in direct contradiction to... themselves, since they freely shared the same recording (except for MSNBC’s shamelessly edited one). He’s been given a whole new outlook on the past and the future.

...or he’ll just dig his heels in a make a bigger fool of himself.

 

[Ackmed]

The hypocrisy of the left truly knows no bounds. Roseanne Barr gets fired immediately and her character killed off. For a single tweet. This guy fabricates an hoax, causes tons of racial division, commits a felony, costs tax payers money, etc and is back on the set of Empire hours after posting bail. Not fired, still filming. After all the calls for her job, and the "she deserved it", not the same here. Smollett doesnt want due process for Kav, now claims he deserves it. Which I think he still does, like all people do. MSNBC finally covers it, and has a guest on there claiming that racist cops may have framed him. Hosts dont confront him at all for it, let it go unchecked. CNN has a star host claiming Smollett is like Jackie Robinson. Seriously? Much like rape allegations, people are treated differently based on what their political status is. No marches, no calls for jobs for the accused rapist when they're Dems.

Minority privilege strikes again. Make some silly claim of racism and are automatically believed. No questions asked. No proof needed. No matter that it didnt make sense to start with. Confronted with facts, and people STILL cant believe he made it all up. Its just unfathomable to them. And the left wonders why fake news is a thing. Because they push stories based on their agenda, facts be damned.

 

[UglyCasanova]

He only needs to keep up the charade for less than two weeks, to complete filming the remainder of the season. We'll see if Fox lets this slide until then. It's in all their interests to do so.

Yeah and like I said before I really don’t like going after people’s jobs because you disagree with them. And cancelling the last show or two would hurt a lot more people which isn’t a good outcome. I don’t foresee Jussie coming back next season though lol. Who knows

 

[Lanyap]

Regardless of what Smollett did, it's on us if we decide this incident is reason to disbelieve the claims of hate crime victims going forward. Every report of such an attack needs to be fully investigated as the CPD did in this case. Kudos to them for handling this thoroughly and professionally to get to the truth, both before and after Smollett's story started sounding fishy.

I would hope both sides can at least agree on that.

Agreed. The concerns are already coming out.
Activists worry that Jussie Smollett arrest will discourage hate-crime reporting by real victims

It looks like we have another possible hate crime. UCPD is investigating. It's not a complete video so we don't know what precipitated the event. The MSM is slow in picking it up but here is a reliable source.
https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-student-assaulted-uc-berkeley-while-recruiting-other-1340057

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

The one where Zimmerman was not justified and Trayvon was murdered by a racist.

There is not a single scrap of evidence that Zimmerman is a racist and a preponderance of evidence the he is not. He was raised with two black children. He invited black people to stay in his home. His black neighbors said he was the only neighbor to introduce himself. His black coworkers have come out to say he doesn’t but have a racist bone in his body. He campaigned against the Sanford police department until they brought charges on the police chief’s son for mistreating a black homeless man. He’s even a minority’s himself.

...and he voted for Obama.

<snip>

Hey: You asked me to elaborate.

GTFO. Facts don't belong in this liberal bunghole.

Any quotes of this must immediately dismiss is at racist propaganda. You're racist, sexist, anti-gay, homophobic, and xenophobic.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Yeah it's kind of like..

I know 3-5 million people voted illegally..

What is your evidence? People tell me.

Whataboutism more.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Smollett returned to the set of Empire today. Fox is certainly scratching their heads on how to deal with this one lol.

Seriously? Doesn't sound smart, more chances for him to make himself look even more stupid in public.

Sounds like he's desperate for money or something...

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Still professing his innocence. I wonder if the rest of the cast is buying it

https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/21/jussie-smollett-empire-cast-apology-leaves-set/

Jussie Smollett is begging his "Empire" family to believe he's innocent and continue supporting him -- even as the drama of his arrest postponed a scene Thursday in Chicago.

Sources on the "Empire" set tell us the cast and crew were waiting at least 30 minutes for Jussie to begin the scheduled scene. When he eventually showed his face he was very emotional, and surrounded by his family.

We're told he addressed everyone on set, saying ..."I’m sorry I’ve put you all through this and not answered any calls. I wanted to say I’m sorry and, you know me, I would never do this to any of you, you are my family. I swear to God, I did not do this.”

What a fucking moron man. Apparently his lawyer is dumb as fuck, because any lawyer worth a shit would tell him.....
1. Don't show up to work
2. Don't talk.
3. Don't talk.
4. Repeat Step 2 & 3.

 

[UglyCasanova]

The MSM is slow in picking it up

This is my shocked face

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's interesting that you bring all this when the simplest facts are that Zimmerman was told not to engage, did, and Trayvon Martin is dead by gunshot and the gun belonged to Zimmerman.

The facts lead me to believe that Zimmerman wasn't guilty of Second Degree murder. I do not think he was innocent and the reality is that the scene wasn't tenable for good evidence collection, so the only real evidence was that of Zimmerman's testimony/credibility.

But it sure looks like you have a blog you can copy+paste from, so if you want to give a direct link to that, seems like it would be a time-saver in the future.

Got it - so dismiss all facts and evidence and go off feelings. Go fuck yourself retard.

 

[Thrashard]

The hypocrisy of the left truly knows no bounds.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Man she looks awfully thicc in that pic

 

[jackstar7]

You have some kind of sourcing for this info, right? A couple links... something?

He was deliberately insincere to mock someone who indisputably deserves it (Jussie Smollett). I don’t see why you have a problem with it. We all agree that Jussie is trash, so your outburst seems a bit... misdirected.

Explain... with sources and links. I might just hand-wave and ignore them after you go through the trouble (like you tried to do to me). Main difference: I won’t be the one making a fool of myself by refusing to acknowledge reality.

Looks like you need to go fuck yourself, dipshit.

 

[jackstar7]

False. They never told him not to engage. They asked (important distinction) him not to follow and *GASP* he immediately agreed!

Guess it wasn’t so important after all, but let’s continue as if he didn’t immediately agree. Here’s this inconvenient truth again:



Again: Zimmerman *IMMEDIATELY* said “OK” when they said they didn’t need him to do that (follow Trayvon). Don’t take my word for it:

You are shamelessly delusional if you continue believing the blatant lie that Zimmerman continued chasing Trayvon and “engaged” him at all, and even more wrong if you think the police specifically ordered him not to. Even Trayvon’s own girlfriend testified that he made it home, called her back, and then went to confront Zimmerman. Zimmerman’s own breathing and the wind noise in the 911 recording reveals that he stopped chasing exactly as he agreed to verbally.

It was laughable that anyone ever thought that in the first place since it’s the exact opposite of what you hear in the 911 call. It’s even more ridiculous that you continue believing it now with absolutely ZERO reason.

You were lied to. You know it and yet you continue believing the lie. Something is seriously wrong with you.

You know what? I'll take the L and say you're right.

I hope that settles the matter in your heart and mind.

Hmm... now are both of my responses sincere? Neither? How can you judge?

 

[jackstar7]

Got it - so dismiss all facts and evidence and go off feelings. Go fuck yourself retard.

So you're in for the wall, too, eh?

I'm not surprised.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Looks like you need to go fuck yourself, dipshit.

You really are going full retard aren't you? Fucking dipshit, god forbid you assert some facts of your own vs. the facts that CZroe presented.

Hell, from my experience at AT @CZroe is rather left leaning. I guess the difference is that they understand fact from fiction.

Don't go out of your way to learn shit instead of sticking your head in the sand you halfwit fucking retard.

 

[CZroe]

Looks like you need to go fuck yourself, dipshit.

That was uncalled for. You asked me to elaborate then you threw it back in my face and doubled down on a lie. Now it sounds like you can’t handle the truth so you are lashing out. You should be thanking me for opening your eyes.

The operator said they didn’t need him to follow.
He said “OK.”

It takes some seriously twisted logic to distort that into the exact opposite.

What part of “OK” don’t you understand?! How stubbornly invested in this lie do you have to be to go on claiming that Zimmerman ignored the police and continued after Trayvon in light of this AND the testimony of Trayvon’s own girlfriend who was on the phone with him at the time?

The entire reason Zimmerman was following the first time was because he was concerned about losing him before the police arrived. He wanted to lead the police to Trayvon. He said this in the recording in no uncertain terms. He would not have ended the call if he were still chasing Trayvon.

You know what? I'll take the L and say you're right.

I hope that settles the matter in your heart and mind.

Hmm... now are both of my responses sincere? Neither? How can you judge?

The beauty of this is that everyone is seeing you do it. For the onlookers who might have doubted how serious the problem is, it’s the perfect demonstration of how delusional people are when they accept the narrative. You have not only demonstrated that you have no desire for the truth (even after asking me to elaborate), you’ve demonstrated a revulsion to it.

Clearly, the demand for racism has outstripped supply. If you go on acting like this then you are part of that problem, just like Jussie.

 

[CZroe]

The Onion’s take:
https://entertainment.theonion.com/...F&utm_content=Main&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

 

[sportage]

Last time I checked, most tv's have an off switch.
I don't know this guy, I never watched this guy, and I don't care what he did because WHY CARE?
He's some TV star, I assume.... so what makes him so special, or so shocking that he would pull a stunt like this?
I mean, who cares? Or should care?
What he did, whatever it was, should not be the shocker. The shocker is the media treating this as their number one lead story.
Now THAT is shocking. And really pathetic.

 

[shortylickens]

I was wrong. Stephen Colbert addressed the issue head on:

BUT, I still wanna see Ellen Page back on his show.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I was wrong. Stephen Colbert addressed the issue head on:

BUT, I still wanna see Ellen Page back on his show.

"Tread very litely and say what a dick".....

He honestly said that in the most light-hearted manner possible.

Also Colbert has gone down the shitter just as much as the Daily Show... His "music side comment assistant" is SO fucking bad that it makes me cringe every fucking time.

I miss laughing. I miss Jon Stewart

I mean ultimately though, Colbert is literally saying to make it less obvious he should hire the tolken white guy... That and the jokes are just... so.... baaaad...

Jesus fuck I'm all for bashing Trump, but get a new writing staff for fucks sake.

 

[SKORPI0]

This over a complaint on just making $20k per episode compared to the 2 main stars. Now he has to pay $100k bail and hopefully spend time in prison.