The Jussie Smollett Affair

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realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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Its not a whataboutism its pointing out people on the right are only concerned about right and left

People on the left are concerned about right and wrong.

It is. You dragged Trump into a statement that Jessie is bad, but, Trump is worse and people ignore Trump.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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No. It was a different thread in which you made the factually incorrect statement that gender is 100% a social construct. That statement can only come from your feelings as the vast majority of research says that your statement is wrong.

wat? do you want to bring it up again here or somewhere else?

I'm curious as to the context and if I did or didn't mispeak, and how I responded later. I'm also curious about your "vast majority of research says x" coming from you, knowing that you have a famous habit of wildly misreading science articles--hence, your proud support of "Google Guy," who was only ever wrong about every fucking claim he made....from a biology perspective, anyway.
 

realibrad

Lifer
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wat? do you want to bring it up again here or somewhere else?

I'm curious as to the context and if I did or didn't mispeak, and how I responded later. I'm also curious about your "vast majority of research says x" coming from you, knowing that you have a famous habit of wildly misreading science articles--hence, your proud support of "Google Guy," who was only ever wrong about every fucking claim he made....from a biology perspective, anyway.

I was responding to this.

"...predictably ignoring the points of the issue and misrepresenting reality in place of feels."

The time you said Gender was only a social construct was here.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...intellectual-propaganda.2537141/post-39302302


I also provided you many peer reviewed studies on gender. You dismissed them even though they were peer reviewed and cited multiple times.

You dismissed them under the guise that I did not understand them. The implication there would be that the people that also reviewed them that were people in the field also could not understand them.

There was also @interchange that also supported the position that Gender is not only socially influenced.

Rather than rehash all of this, the point was that you too disagree with science when it fits you feelings.
 

SlowSpyder

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From what I've read, this was all due to him wanting a bigger salary and more exposure. If that's true, then I have to say, what a selfish asshole. He created racism and tried to slander Trump supporters so he could be a bigger millionaire. I really hope he is fired and learns from this.
 
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From what I've read, this was all due to him wanting a bigger salary and more exposure. If that's true, then I have to say, what a selfish asshole. He created racism and tried to slander Trump supporters so he could be a bigger millionaire. I really hope he is fired and learns from this.

I agree, need to wait for more facts however this is not looking good for him.
 
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Paratus

Lifer
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From what I've read, this was all due to him wanting a bigger salary and more exposure. If that's true, then I have to say, what a selfish asshole. He created racism and tried to slander Trump supporters so he could be a bigger millionaire. I really hope he is fired and learns from this.

Man can you imagine someone going around scapegoating other races because they didn’t get the raise or promotion they wanted. Pretty f’d in the head if you ask me.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Man can you imagine someone going around scapegoating other races because they didn’t get the raise or promotion they wanted. Pretty f’d in the head if you ask me.

... you just compared this hoax to... protesting affirmative action?
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Man can you imagine someone going around scapegoating other races because they didn’t get the raise or promotion they wanted. Pretty f’d in the head if you ask me.


Depends on the circumstances. Is there truth to it, was the person a victim of a racist policy like affirmative action, or is it a made up issue?
 

Paratus

Lifer
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... you just compared this hoax to... protesting affirmative action?

Well in the two specific cases I was comparing both involve a willingness to throw others of a different race under the bus in an ultimately failed effort to enrich oneself.

But you are correct the hoax is directly orders of magnitude worse and not to mention illegal.

It’s not illegal to bitch about affirmative action.
Depends on the circumstances. Is there truth to it, was the person a victim of a racist policy like affirmative action, or is it a made up issue?

Well in this guys case we can definitively say it was made up.
 
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zinfamous

No Lifer
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I was responding to this.

"...predictably ignoring the points of the issue and misrepresenting reality in place of feels."

The time you said Gender was only a social construct was here.

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...intellectual-propaganda.2537141/post-39302302


I also provided you many peer reviewed studies on gender. You dismissed them even though they were peer reviewed and cited multiple times.

You dismissed them under the guise that I did not understand them. The implication there would be that the people that also reviewed them that were people in the field also could not understand them.

There was also @interchange that also supported the position that Gender is not only socially influenced.

Rather than rehash all of this, the point was that you too disagree with science when it fits you feelings.

...linking back to that thread doesn't really help your case in this particular distraction. All I see is a repeated refusal for you to address the argument, and the biology, but just to declare victory because you said so. I forgot that this topic is your personal Waterloo.
 

realibrad

Lifer
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...linking back to that thread doesn't really help your case in this particular distraction. All I see is a repeated refusal for you to address the argument, and the biology, but just to declare victory because you said so. I forgot that this topic is your personal Waterloo.

"Gender is a social construct, not a biological one."

That statement is factually incorrect. I provided you studies that show biology being an influence in a big way on Gender. The only reason you would make such a statement is/are your feelings as it is not backed by scientific data.
 
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"Gender is a social construct, not a biological one."

That statement is factually incorrect. I provided you studies that show biology being an influence in a big way on Gender. The only reason you would make such a statement is/are your feelings as it is not backed by scientific data.

Zin did say sex is biological, gender is social.
 
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realibrad

Lifer
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Zin did say sex is biological, gender is social.

He said its a social construct, not a biological one. That statement is incorrect. Gender is influenced by social and biological factors. Further, the biological is not a small or trivial factor where it could be said that the Social is the important one and thus defines Gender.
 
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He said its a social construct, not a biological one. That statement is incorrect. Gender is influenced by social and biological factors. Further, the biological is not a small or trivial factor where it could be said that the Social is the important one and thus defines Gender.

We can bicker all day about this meaningless thing, Below are his exact words from the link:

Gender is a social construct, not a biological one. You are confusing sex (genetics) with gender. That has never changed, by the way, whatever you want to believe.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Well in this guys case we can definitively say it was made up.

Well, if its made up screw that person. I had a similar situation, but not made up. I was a victim of leftist bigotry. But, nothing on the level of leftist bigotry that Jussie Smollett created.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
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That was uncalled for.
If you imagine your smug condescension exists on some imperceptible level, then I gotta repeat myself, you're a dipshit.

There's a way to explain things to people when you want to educate, and you'd don't use it. You're here to be a haughty dick.

I'm put off by your certitude. You're not talking about mathematics, so it has no place.
 

realibrad

Lifer
Oct 18, 2013
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We can bicker all day about this meaningless thing, Below are his exact words from the link:

Gender is a social construct, not a biological one. You are confusing sex (genetics) with gender. That has never changed, by the way, whatever you want to believe.

Right, that bolder part is factually incorrect. Sex is biological, but, gender is not the socially constructed one. It may contain social influences, but, it is not that one is biological and the other is social. It would be like saying that a Prius is an electric car and not a hybrid. Gender is split by the influences. So when he says Gender is not a biological one, and biology is a major factor, that statement becomes wrong.
 

Thrashard

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Anything to deny the uptick in racist and anti Semitic attacks since your boy took office. I guess he inspires you as well.

You are making things up and repeating what other people are saying in the fake media.

Be careful what you wish for. Current America has not seen riots like what goes on in France, Poland and Serbia.
 
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Ichinisan

Lifer
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wat? do you want to bring it up again here or somewhere else?

I'm curious as to the context and if I did or didn't mispeak, and how I responded later. I'm also curious about your "vast majority of research says x" coming from you, knowing that you have a famous habit of wildly misreading science articles--hence, your proud support of "Google Guy," who was only ever wrong about every fucking claim he made....from a biology perspective, anyway.
Which biological claim / generalization was wrong?
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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If you imagine your smug condescension exists on some imperceptible level, then I gotta repeat myself, you're a dipshit.

There's a way to explain things to people when you want to educate, and you'd don't use it. You're here to be a haughty dick.

I'm put off by your certitude. You're not talking about mathematics, so it has no place.
It's like you're talking about yourself and you don't even realize it.
 

brandonbull

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May 3, 2005
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It's interesting that you bring all this when the simplest facts are that Zimmerman was told not to engage, did, and Trayvon Martin is dead by gunshot and the gun belonged to Zimmerman.

The facts lead me to believe that Zimmerman wasn't guilty of Second Degree murder. I do not think he was innocent and the reality is that the scene wasn't tenable for good evidence collection, so the only real evidence was that of Zimmerman's testimony/credibility.

But it sure looks like you have a blog you can copy+paste from, so if you want to give a direct link to that, seems like it would be a time-saver in the future.

You do understand why the Zman "engaged"? Right?
 
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