Is Jussie in jail yet?
No, sir. I disagree. We’ll never learn our lessons if we keep laying all the blame at his feet and acting like we did nothing wrong and don’t need to change.
Though he ultimately didn’t get away with it, there’s a reason he thought he could. It’s the same reason Nathan Phillips thought he could lie about the Covington Catholic kids or his Vietnam service. It’s the reason we always assume the most sensational or inflammatory explanation for everything from Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin to Ty Cobb and Christopher Columbus.
He was counting on people reacting exactly like they reacted despite having nothing more than a baseless claim without evidence. To deny that we enable this is irresponsible. We need to accept our gullibility and make a conscious effort to change. We should not blindly trust the world to not exploit our vulnerabilities when we don’t have any good reason to be so susceptible.
You don’t have to trust his account. Again, ALL the other evidence supports it.And Zimmerman's behavior after TM clearly showed his account could be trusted.
There will always be people seeking to take advantage of society’s good intentions...that doesn’t mean we need to change the system because of a few bad apples.
In Jussie’s case...he fabricated the evidence. In the Covington case, people saw what they were told to see based on a social media lie. Both cases were cleared up within a few days. The system worked. The judging public needs to accept that we are gullible, we can be duped, and that’s why we should always seek out all the information until we’re satisfied that we have the truth.
Except it didn’t work.There will always be people seeking to take advantage of society’s good intentions...that doesn’t mean we need to change the system because of a few bad apples.
In Jussie’s case...he fabricated the evidence. In the Covington case, people saw what they were told to see based on a social media lie. Both cases were cleared up within a few days. The system worked. The judging public needs to accept that we are gullible, we can be duped, and that’s why we should always seek out all the information until we’re satisfied that we have the truth.
Does it sound like jackstar7 accepted that he was gullible?I realize the events are not related, but he (and some1) invoked this incident.
Those kids, regardless of how they were addressed by other groups responded with incredible disrespect to people they had no cause to show such disrespect. I didn't know there were still folks who took the kids side on that one. I thought all the debunking had actually laid the facts bare that they were shitty kids who were improperly chaperoned and regardless of the yelling of the street yellers, those kids were not victims of anything, and a few were outright little shits.
“Non-violent?!” He totally disfigured that man’s face! He’s a danger to [himself and ]everyone around him.I’m sure he posted bail like any other non-violent offender and is awaiting trial.
So much concern about making sure the black man is locked up.
Lol at the downvote for pointing out Felix’s single minded concern. Dude is racist as fuck.
Except it was not cleared up, and people still don't know what happened in the example you used. Its the same thing with the woman that sued McDonald's after the coffee spilled on her. People today still think it was that she was looking for a cash grab, and, not that her burns were so bad it almost killed her.
It wasn’t “Hey! You should warn that hot coffee burns. Derp.” It was “Hey! This coffee is irresponsibly hot with no good reason and absolutely no warning that it is any more dangerous than reasonably hot coffee.”Say WHAT!?
Did the burns get infected?
Say WHAT!?
Did the burns get infected?
Liebeck acknowledged that the spill was her fault. What she took issue with was that the coffee was so ridiculously hot — at up to 190 degrees Fahrenheit, near boiling point — that it caused third-degree burns on her legs and genitals, nearly killing her and requiring extensive surgery to treat.
Selective skepticism is amazing, right? I watched the full video of the kids and don't need the lawyer's editing to frame it for me. Thanks for spreading their message again though. It's gotta feel good, right?Except it didn’t work.
From this very thread:
Does it sound like jackstar7 accepted that he was gullible?
Demonstrably not, considering the people who were still delusional enough about it to get triggered by including that name my post... and the subsequent people triggered by the facts when those were demanded of and presented by me.
Honestly, I was hoping someone would ask me to explain Ty Cobb.
It wasn’t “Hey! You should warn that hot coffee burns. Derp.” It was “Hey! This coffee is irresponsibly hot with no good reason and absolutely no warning that it is any more dangerous than reasonably hot coffee.”
Basically, McDonald’s was keeping it WAY too hot so that they didn’t have to make fresh coffee as often. It was so hot that it caused far greater injury than hot coffee ever should have. Of course, it was undrinkably hot to boot. No customer could have reasonably expected it to be boiling hot to take appropriate precautions.
Point taken. As for the Covington example, I have *ALWAYS* pointed out that the school should be liable for improperly chaperoning high-school aged minors in a major city. I don't understand how that Covington kid is suing WaPo for $250M without first suing the school (perhaps waiting to graduate first to avoid any retribution?)Except it didn’t work.
From this very thread:
Does it sound like jackstar7 accepted that he was gullible?
Following your suggestion invites people to take advantage of us again and again. It enables people to learn from Jussie and actually get away with it next time.
Given that kids younger than those kids have been executed by police, I think they should at least be held to the standards of being in control of themselves... but that aside, from the start I've wondered about the lack of adult supervision (or the adults condoning their behavior). At what age do they take responsibility? I'm sure most of the conservatives (and liberals) here would say that they were responsible for doing any number of adult things and treating other people with respect at ages much younger than these kids. That they don't know how is certainly an indictment of how they are being raised and educated.Point taken. As for the Covington example, I have *ALWAYS* pointed out that the school should be liable for improperly chaperoning high-school aged minors in a major city. I don't understand how that Covington kid is suing WaPo for $250M without first suing the school (perhaps waiting to graduate first to avoid any retribution?)
I disagree with Jackstar that the kids are to blame for acting like little shits--they are minors and can't be expected to respond appropriately when they are engaged by Black Israelites and native drummers and don't have any adult supervision around.
So much concern about making sure the black man is locked up.
What a dumbass. You are the racist pos thinking he cant be held accountable or that our sole reason for wanting to prevent similar actions is because of his skin color.
Dumbass.
Nope he should be held accountable. But I do question assigning 24 detectives to this case when the murder clearance rate in Chicago is so low.What a dumbass. You are the racist pos thinking he cant be held accountable or that our sole reason for wanting to prevent similar actions is because of his skin color.
Dumbass.
Actually, more like locking up a person that has no problems paying people to commit assaults and sending terroristic threats and powder via the US mail.
The simple joy of beating a dead horse.The original topic was not... lengthy enough. We can go further!
I mean, people feel very strongly about self defense. And whether a person may do anything at all to, even unexpectedly, place themselves in danger. Plus some of the evidence that came to light during the trial was MONTHS after people had already made up their minds about a cute little 12 year old baby being mercilessly chased and gunned down by a bloodthirsty z-man.
Thanks to the media's propaganda, some people still think it was a Stand Your Ground case. And that's controversial.
It's a complete mess of highly charged feelings VS facts. A good demonstration of how feelings are impervious to facts.
Nope he should be held accountable. But I do question assigning 24 detectives to this case when the murder clearance rate in Chicago is so low.
I missed your corresponding out rage at the white guy who was plotting to kill those he disagreed with politically.