The Jussie Smollett Affair

[brycejones]

You just listed off core members of the political brotherhood Taj is in. Why would he be against them?

I don't think he is against any of them. He was just being a triggered snowflake about them being described as "white". LOL

 

[pcgeek11]

I'll be the first to say it. Jussie should not get any jail time. Why?

Remember the Central Park Karen who called the police claiming a black man was attacking her? No jail

This case, no jail
Black freshman allegedly targeted with false police report that led to raid (nypost.com)

This case which happened in Chicago right around the time Jussie was doing his thing. 24 felonies and no jail
Prosecutors to drop all charges against ex-Rep. Aaron Schock - ABC News (go.com)

I don't see jail time either. He should however be made to reimburse all costs of the investigation.

 

[pcgeek11]

I don't think he is against any of them. He was just being a triggered snowflake about them being described as "white". LOL

How would everyone feel if someone called a group of black men "black boys"?

 

[brycejones]

How would everyone feel if someone called a group of black men "black boys"?

Climb up on that cross with tajbot.

 

[HomerJS]

How would everyone feel if someone called a group of black men "black boys"?

Because this country has a history of demeaning white men by calling them boy?

You should know better then that

 

[pcgeek11]

Because this country has a history of demeaning white men by calling them boy?

You should know better then that

Double edged sword.

When you call people cracker and white boy you also are using it in a demeaning manner.

 

[HomerJS]

Double edged sword.

When you call people cracker and white boy you also are using it in a demeaning manner.

But I called myself darkie. That should make the resident racists feel better.

 

[pcgeek11]

But I called myself darkie. That should make the resident racists feel better.

But if I did it ( called you a darkie ), there would be hell to pay. You are about as racist as anyone I know and I live in the south east...

 

[HomerJS]

But if I did it ( called you a darkie ), there would be hell to pay. You are about as racist as anyone I know and I live in the south east...

You just completely miss the point. I won't bother to explain

 

[pcgeek11]

You just completely miss the point. I won't bother to explain

No. You are as racist as anyone else, that is the point. Did you calling yourself a darkie make you feel better?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Throwing "Boy" on anything gives it a demeaning characteristic. Hell literally just referring to someone as "boy" is demeaning as it emasculates the other person and reduces them in stature. Imagine referring to anyone at work, a place where people tend to be more sensitive about social standing, colloquially as "boy" and watch the fireworks goooooo

White Boy is a demeaning phrase used by any number of minority groups to describe a sort of pampered upper class wuss naïve to the ways of the real world. Its certainly stereotypical and can certainly be considered "racist" in the appropriate context.

I guess what complicates these discussions so much is a sort of unspoken understanding of racism being both about otherization *and* power. Since minority groups are unable to have as much real world influence and pull as the majority group, derogatory phrases are generally not identified as such within these communities.

I.E. if laundromats for example are owned proportionally by race, 70% would be owned by Whites and 10% would be owned by blacks. If Whites hold discriminatory attitudes toward blacks, that potentially cuts off 70% of the market for a service to blacks, while if the same were true in reverse, then that cuts off 10% of the market to whites, a clearly disproportionate result. Without the ability to enforce their discrimination proportionately, blacks would be considered "less racist" in this scenario.

On the other hand, the white majority group tends to not see group dynamics (owed in part to being the norm) and values individual dynamics more strongly. As such, you end up having these discussions where one person is arguing from a group dynamic (I can't be racist because we have no power to enforce that racism on whites) while the other person tends to argue from the individual dynamic (That is racist because you said a thing that delineates on race, it is ideologically racist and your ability to enforce that upon me is secondary to that fact).

And as such we get these page long discussions where everyone talks past everyone else and gets nowhere.

 

[MrSquished]

Double edged sword.

When you call people cracker and white boy you also are using it in a demeaning manner.

How are you offended by the word cracker? It's meaningless. Slurs only carry weight if they come from a position of power, it's meaningless if the oppressed use one.

White people that are offended by the word cracker are the biggest snowflakes.

 

[brycejones]

You just completely miss the point. I won't bother to explain

No. You are as racist as anyone else, that is the point. Did you calling yourself a darkie make you feel better?

No one has ever accused pcgeek11 of being a deep thinker.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

They are just pissed because Jussie Smollett exposed the bullshit and lies of the whole false race/hate crime.

 

[sandorski]

;cryin;

 

[pmv]

I'll be the first to say it. Jussie should not get any jail time. Why?

Remember the Central Park Karen who called the police claiming a black man was attacking her? No jail

This case, no jail
Black freshman allegedly targeted with false police report that led to raid (nypost.com)

This case which happened in Chicago right around the time Jussie was doing his thing. 24 felonies and no jail
Prosecutors to drop all charges against ex-Rep. Aaron Schock - ABC News (go.com)

I can't muster an opinion on whether he should get jail time or not.

Didn't this all happen pre-COVID?

I can no longer remember the before-times. It feels like a century ago. Different eras, different standards.

 

[HomerJS]

How are you offended by the word cracker? It's meaningless. Slurs only carry weight if they come from a position of power, it's meaningless if the oppressed use one.

White people that are offended by the word cracker are the biggest snowflakes.

He doesn't know "cracker" was the term used for the person assigned to whip slaves. He should be pleased because it puts him in a dominant position.

 

[interchange]

They are just pissed because Jussie Smollett exposed the bullshit and lies of the whole false race/hate crime.

"The" false race/hate crime?

What does Jussie's stunt have to do with the 8,263 other hate crime reports law enforcement submitted to the FBI in 2020?

https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics

 

[HomerJS]

They are just pissed because Jussie Smollett exposed the bullshit and lies of the whole false race/hate crime.

1 vs 10,000.

We gotta lot of catchin' up to do y'all

 

[interchange]

1 vs 10,000.

We gotta lot of catchin' up to do y'all

Seriously. For anyone who believes that hate crimes are rampantly made up because of 1 public example, what the actual fuck?

 

[HomerJS]

Seriously. For anyone who believes that hate crimes are rampantly made up because of 1 public example, what the actual fuck?

He has to hang his racist beliefs on something. That way he can try to proclaim...

"See, no such things as hate crimes. Those ungrateful blacks should stop complaining and just be glad they live in Merica"

 

[imported_tajmahal]

"The" false race/hate crime?

What does Jussie's stunt have to do with the 8,263 other hate crime reports law enforcement submitted to the FBI in 2020?

https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics

"submitted" is your key word, now come up with how many were verified. A la Smollett - zero, zilch, nada

 

[HomerJS]

"submitted" is your key word, now come up with how many were verified. A la Smollett - zero, zilch, nada

From 2010-2015 the actually number of guilty convictions for hate crimes NOT like Jussie, 29. Breakdown of reports vs prosecutions vs convictions.

We still have a lot of catching up to do to you white hoods.
Convictions in Federal Hate Crime Cases Since FY 2010 (syr.edu)

BTW - Didn't we watch the Central Park Karen commit the same crime for which Jussie was found guilty? Even when guilty, black people are not treated the same under the law.

 

[hal2kilo]

He doesn't know "cracker" was the term used for the person assigned to whip slaves. He should be pleased because it puts him in a dominant position.

I thought they were Roman Catholic whites.

 

[interchange]

"submitted" is your key word, now come up with how many were verified. A la Smollett - zero, zilch, nada

Are you a real person?