Nobody talked about DDR3 2133 at any voltage.
Plus you know as well as everyone else that no OEMs will touch anything that isnt a standard. Dell/HP/Lenovo/Apple is not gonna sell office and home PCs with overvolted memory. And only a fool would buy overvolted memory anyway. And that includes 1.35V chips overvolted and overclocked to handle 2133. OEMs dont want they either.
To use (proper) 2133Mhz memory you simply have to pay extra. And its not cheap.
Plus you know as well as everyone else that no OEMs will touch anything that isnt a standard. Dell/HP/Lenovo/Apple is not gonna sell office and home PCs with overvolted memory. And only a fool would buy overvolted memory anyway. And that includes 1.35V chips overvolted and overclocked to handle 2133. OEMs dont want they either.
You keep evading to answer the question, where does AMD says that it only support 1.5V memory ???
You were replying to monstercameron saying he bought a 8GB DDR-3 2133MHz at $70 and now you are talking about OEMs ???
Not to mention that OEMs buy memory at different prices than the retail you quoted earlier.
why is that? quick burn out?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA1YV0SC8932
this is my bought memory. should i buy another brand or just use it
You could most likely just have bought 1333 or 1600Mhz memory and overclocked/overvolted it yourself.
It degrade alot faster. Its your own choice.
You could most likely just have bought cheaper 1333 or 1600Mhz memory and overclocked/overvolted it yourself.
So heres a question, is the 7850k going to be slower or faster then the 8320 FX series?
So heres a question, is the 7850k going to be slower or faster then the 8320 FX series?
how would you know what 1600mhz kit can oc to 2100-2400?
He linked a 1866Mhz one. But a good example is the Samsung 1.35V DDR3 1600Mhz kit.
the lower the rated voltage the more headroom?
It did 2000Mhz on 1.35V. The key is the process node
the same could said for many products with amd components, still doesn't invalidate it for comparison. I am saying this as an openly biased AMD apu fan. If AMD can't surpass intel with their massive gpu tech advantage then they are blind...then again the vast majority of the market won't care either way.
what kit do you recommend? samsung 1.35 20nm? kits
Intel can make Iris Pro with tons of eDRAM for a few reasons. Chief among them that they can afford to spend resources on an extremely niche performance product and they have a ready customer for that product in the form of Apple.
AMD has neither of those reasons to make an eDRAM version of Richland/Kaveri.
There is very little relevancy in comparing AMD APUs to Iris Pro SKUs. It's about as useful as comparing a consumer Intel i3 CPU to an Intel hexacore E series CPU.
Where did I say AMD only supported 1.5V?
don't want to nitpick but iris pro isn't just a desktop part. The desktop is one thing but there is also a battle on the mobile front where AMD does have a disadvantage. I still maintain that iris pro is a valid comparison or as valid as comparing kaveri to a more expensive i7-4770k.
Then why did you mentioned 1.5V memory when anyone can use 1.65v the cheaper 2133MHz Memory with AMD APUs ???
It degrade alot faster. Its your own choice.
You could most likely just have bought cheaper 1333 or 1600Mhz memory and overclocked/overvolted it yourself.
Anyone can also overclock. Chip their cars and whatever. But the huge wast majority doesnt. So what 99% does is relevant, not what you do.
I dont know what are you trying to say, 99% will buy the cheaper 2133MHz 1.65V memory than the more expensive 1.5V.
Or are you trying to say that 99% will buy the more expensive 1.5V memory ??
People want stock products. Not overvolted, overclocked whatever. This is what OEMs sell.
I know you want to advocate for cheap overvolted, overclocked and out of spec memory to portrait it all in a better light so there isnt a price premium to pay.
DRAM degradation? Do you have any study on that? And what is a point when there is a lifetime warranty anyways?
overclocking is not guaranteed. You may aswell get a sticks that cant go 10Mhz over spec speeds.
You are joking right ??? 1.65V memory is stock, with life time guaranty. What the hell are you talking about ???