well, i don't know why you wouldn't write everything to have the same embargo time. much of the information that'll be presented in reviews is going to have come from that conference, i would expect.
Using Newegg prices are a comparison for pre-built desktops:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...el%20Core%20i3 (Core i3 starts @ $399)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8-Series%20APU (A8-6500 APU starts @ $479)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...0-Series%20APU (A10-6700 APU starts @ $499)
Using the Current Fry's sale for Pre-builts here is what I am coming up with:
http://www.frys-electronics-ads.com...-PC-with-4th-Gen-Intel-Core-i3-4130-Processor (Core i3 for $348)
http://www.frys-electronics-ads.com...80-UR22-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-A8-6500-Processor (A8-6500 for $448)
Now granted the Core i3 systems come with 4GB RAM vs. 8GB for the AMD systems, but that still a pretty big disparity in pricing IMO.
I just want to point out that as I type this, it's 3:25 PM,Tuesday January 14th at Christmas Island, Kiribati...
The poor Christmas Island folks have been wondering all day where the Kaveri benches are... they did say Tuesday, after all!
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8 AM EDT, huh? Less than 12 hours to go!
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It should be midnight of the 13th EST.
I can't get excited about any of this crap. Core i3, Kaveri, bleh.
Same problem as ever. $100 buys a 7790 or even better if you go used (saw a 660ti 2GB go for $99!). Combo that with almost any modern CPU and IGPU/APU looks like garbage.
So the 1% of overall PC buyers who can tell the difference between an HD4250 IGP + Phenom II and a 5800K (gamers) would be better served by a discrete GPU anyway. And the 99% of regular desktop users (facebook/MS office/yadda) would be just as well off with .. well almost anything to be honest.
dGPU is a moving target as well, before long the $99 GPU will make a complete mockery of Iris Pro/etc.
No, not EDT. EST. Daylight saving time is in the summer.
So the 1% of overall PC buyers who can tell the difference between an HD4250 IGP + Phenom II and a 5800K (gamers)
yet still tries to troll by bringing up the same argument that has been used against AMDs apus. Come on man try something new. The more you spend the more performance you can get. The upsale is a function of our capitalist society...for just $x more you can get this or that. What about the other merits of the chip?
much more expensive than I thought.
I see this thread all the time, don't worry I won't load it up full of crap I'm just being honest.
Value gamer gets better options elsewhere if they're smart
And the general public who literally have no clue because they only do email/office/facebook won't know anyway
http://www.thinkcomputers.org/amd-kaveri-a10-7850k-and-a10-7700k-prices-revealed/
If this is true, then :
$190 7850K
$50 mobo (?? why pay more for a system of this type?)
So $240 for a meh combo. Compare to :
$90 760K Richland
$50 mobo (same mobo of course)
$100 7790 1GB GDDR5
Eh? And you don't even need anything more than budget 1333/1600 memory and stock clocks to get fantastic entry-level performance from a 760K + 7790 combo. Standard daily usage will be roughly equal from a general use perspective, but for gamers the 7790 GDDR5 will absolutely dominate the Kaveri.
That's why I can't get any excitement from this. It's not like the righteous 8800GTX or 290X launch, or seeing a kickbutt new CPU release that blows the doors off of the predecessor (a la Athlon 64, Conroe, Phenom II vs. PhI, Celeron 300A, Sandy Bridge). It's not even a moderately impressive release in performance terms. It's more of a 'look at that, integrated GPU is now slightly less terrible than the last time, woohoo'.
In fact, the only thing I can see about this is that it will at least offer some interesting choices in budget notebooks? Would I rather have a well built Kaveri notebook instead of a Pentium Dual core or i3? Sure! But still, it wouldn't thrill me. I'd be shocked to see a budget notebook even ship with DDR3-1866, let alone the 2133/2400 or quad channel you need to really get passable.
Respectfully not trying to be a troll, that's just honestly how I feel.
Quite a poor argument for whom have used both configurations,
i guess that accuracy is not that important and even counter
productive when trashing a product using such exagerations
that end being meaningless.
Eh? I've owned several nice PhII X4 and X6 systems, and have a spare A8 notebook with a cheap Toshiba SSD. Regular usage is indistinguishable for typical stuff. Open a web browser, check no problems, open a word doc, check no problems, open several windows, check check check.
In fact, I think in a blind test nobody would really be able to tell the difference with these kinds of uses. Who can really argue with that?
ok you have been validated, sorry for coming off hostile, at the moment it isnt a great valie at it current price.
Quite possible but this imply that gaming is brought out
of the equation.
I'll wait for Amazon's currently-inactive $173.99 7850K listing to go live.
20% more expensive than a 6800K for 10% better CPU perfs
and 30-50% better GPU , not counting all tne new features,
not to say that it s cheap but the logic under thoses prices
is quite obvious.
Yes, but would a gamer rather have :
7850k @ $240 combo
v
760k + 7790 @ $240 combo?
That's what gets me. Unless you need a super slim case that has no room for dGPU (or laptop build).
Yes, but would a gamer rather have :
7850k @ $240 combo
v
760k + 7790 @ $240 combo?
That's what gets me. Unless you need a super slim case that has no room for dGPU (or laptop build).
Alright;It's time.Let's see what it is!