Not slower -- more power hungry. More power hungry would lead to decreased clocks to stay within power targets.
But you're right, it's not a wider decode, it's an additional one.
Not slower -- more power hungry. More power hungry would lead to decreased clocks to stay within power targets.Where does its say it has a bigger decoder and not just an seperate one for each core unlike earlier where the decoder was shared ? And why should a bigger decoder be slower anyway?
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Where does its say it has a bigger decoder and not just an seperate one for each core unlike earlier where the decoder was shared ? And why should a bigger decoder be slower anyway?
AMD marketing material wasn't trustworthy with the old management, and given the Beema/Mulins latest presentations, it seems the new management is taking the same misleading approach.
As NTBMK showed we have AMD claiming that the process does indeed targets lower clocks. That could well be the case, but I'd like confirmation from other sources.
It's a bulk process, 32nm was SOI. A half node shrink isn't enough to make up for the clock loss of dropping SOI. Seems legit to me.
The thing is that lower TDP parts look like they will have a bigger CPU performance boost. For example the 45W TDP A10-6700T runs at 2.5GHZ to 3.5GHZ and the A8 7600 in 45W TDP mode runs at 3.1GHZ to 3.3GHZ and the core has IPC improvements too.
However,you would think AMD would send out the lower TDP parts for review to put Kaveri in the best light,wouldn't you??
Perhaps even the laptop parts??
Nope,they send out the higher TDP parts which they themselves have said will have lower clockspeeds.
where is it exactly in new AIDA? I cant find this benchmark...Or...HSA is working with Win8 only, I use win7 ultimate now...
10% CPU clock drop is not that much considering the starting point
is 4.4Ghz , GPU frequency drop is a little more annoying although
this is the part that will see the higher relative improvement as
this early process will mature but still the CPU part will gain 5-10%
on the coming quarters.
They said that DT was to be launched first with mobile and hence
low power being launched later.
Only a 5 to 10 percent CPU performance gain is pretty mediocre considering that is the weakest point of the chip to begin with. Especially since the top end chip is getting dangerously close in price to a low end i5. It is easily bested in single thread performance by an i3 and in single and multi-threaded performance by an i5. So you are left with a niche of those who want multi-threaded perf better than an i3 but are not willing to pay for an i5, or for htpc, which seems its ideal usage.
It shouldn't be slower per se, but if it does more work than the previous one and because of that consumes more of the power budget, then it should negatively impact the core speed.
The thing is that lower TDP parts look like they will have a bigger CPU performance boost. For example the 45W TDP A10-6700T runs at 2.5GHZ to 3.5GHZ and the A8 7600 in 45W TDP mode runs at 3.1GHZ to 3.3GHZ and the core has IPC improvements too.
However,you would think AMD would send out the lower TDP parts for review to put Kaveri in the best light,wouldn't you??
Perhaps even the laptop parts??
Nope,they send out the higher TDP parts which they themselves have said will have lower clockspeeds.
I am thoroughly disappointed in AMD and have been for the past 3 or so years. The processors that they have been dishing out are unable to match Intel at even price/performance. You have AMD spending tons of time and money on their APU line and marketing it like its some kind of gaming prophet. Yes, its cool but realistically there is actually no use for it outside of the casual gamer and HTPC. It seems AMD has left their core audience, sure they make great video cards and are priced competitively against nvidia. But in the CPU market they have completely let me down in terms of gaming performance. The FX line is a sad reminder of why I left AMD after my X4 955. I will probably never go back either.
I can get an i5 4670k for $220, and it will far surpass an AMD FX-9370 for $290, this is so backwards. AMD throwing around terms like 8-Core 4ghz turbo, I mean are we dummies? The tech gamer is going to look up reviews and clearly see that every AMD processor is out performed by cost and performance. Those 8 cores make no difference to me. What happened AMD?
I am thoroughly disappointed in AMD and have been for the past 3 or so years. The processors that they have been dishing out are unable to match Intel at even price/performance. You have AMD spending tons of time and money on their APU line and marketing it like its some kind of gaming prophet. Yes, its cool but realistically there is actually no use for it outside of the casual gamer and HTPC. It seems AMD has left their core audience, sure they make great video cards and are priced competitively against nvidia. But in the CPU market they have completely let me down in terms of gaming performance. The FX line is a sad reminder of why I left AMD after my X4 955. I will probably never go back either.
I can get an i5 4670k for $220, and it will far surpass an AMD FX-9370 for $290, this is so backwards. AMD throwing around terms like 8-Core 4ghz turbo, I mean are we dummies? The tech gamer is going to look up reviews and clearly see that every AMD processor is out performed by cost and performance. Those 8 cores make no difference to me. What happened AMD?
It is the result of them trying to compete against a company that spends more on R&D annually than AMDs entire net worth. Attempting to do nothing but deliver high performance chips to compete with Intel like you want them to is what got them into this mess in the first place.
You can get an FX-8230 for $160 so I don't know why you'd choose the 9370 in your example. The FX-6300 can be had for cheaper than i3s so they absolutely do deliver better value than Intel in many cases. The problem is you're choosing their worst value processors for your comparisons which is bizarre. Nobody takes the 9xxx line seriously.