The last 6 hours of WWI

[Brutuskend]

Did anyone see that show on the History channel last night dealing with the last day of World War One.

Sad and disgusting.

The armistice was signed at 2 AM but didn't take effect until 11 AM. The French and Americans continued to send men to their deaths until the very last minute. Thousands died and MANY thousands more were wounded and permanently maimed.

 

[K1052]

Yea, I saw part of that.

Everyone shooting off all the remaining shells to get rid of them.:roll:

 

[CrackaLackaZe]

war's ugly

 

[clamum]

I wonder what their excuse was for doing that. :roll:

 

[BlamoHammer]

Originally posted by: clamum
I wonder what their excuse was for doing that. :roll:

Maybe they knew they were close to gaining some crucial points and that they could more easily overtake them if the other side knew they had been defeated? I dont know

 

[Modeps]

you're supposed to be the court jester... why are you making me cry?

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: clamum
I wonder what their excuse was for doing that. :roll:

It was a matter of "Unit" pride. The more land they took, the better that particular unit looked on paper. How many high ranking officers died on that last day? NONE...

After the end of the war, letters started flooding in to congress about this. Congress started a investigation, but in the end it was dropped even though up to the point it was dropped, heads were gonna roll.

 

[LordThing]

Somehow they are going to blame W for this...

 

[Brutuskend]

From the History Channel site.

8-9pm

The Last Day of World War I
At 11 a.m., November 11, 1918, World War One ended. Victory had been assured and final territory already agreed upon. So why did more soldiers die that day than on D-Day? Based on Joseph Persico's book 11th Month, 11th Day, 11th Hour: Armistice Day, 1918, we reveal how Allied leaders found outrageous excuses to send 13,000 men to their deaths against a defeated enemy. Some leaders desired promotion, others craved retribution, while one commander chose to capture a town that day solely to bathe! Despite the human toll, nothing was gained--territories taken that day were eventually returned to Germany. The senseless 11th-hour slaughter captures the whole WWI in a microcosm--pointless carnage for no positive purpose.

 

[VirginiaDonkey]

I think it was "W's" Great grand pappy that was telling the soldiers to fight....even though they had no clear plan to end it.

A Family tradition

 

[CaptainGoodnight]

It is staggering how many died in that war alone. In Battle of the Somme the British in a period of a one or two days, lost as many solders as we did in the ten year Vietnam conflict.

 

[0roo0roo]

yea, lack of modern comms is a pain.

torrent?

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Brutuskend

Originally posted by: clamum
I wonder what their excuse was for doing that. :roll:

It was a matter of "Unit" pride. The more land they took, the better that particular unit looked on paper. How many high ranking officers died on that last day? NONE...

After the end of the war, letters started flooding in to congress about this. Congress started a investigation, but in the end it was dropped even though up to the point it was dropped, heads were gonna roll.

Wow. Talk about worthless excuses for human beings.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: K1052
Yea, I saw part of that.

Everyone shooting off all the remaining shells to get rid of them.:roll:

Population control.

 

[aplefka]

There was another war, wasn't it the Civil?, that ended and one battle was still fought after because none of the troops involved had heard the news yet.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: LordThing
Somehow they are going to blame W for this...

:roll:

 

This is the nature of man.
Sad isn't it?

 

[aplefka]

Originally posted by: SampSon
This is the nature of man.
Sad isn't it?

Nah, it's the nature of politics. Man just got mixed up with politics and it caused some bad along with a lot of good.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea, lack of modern comms is a pain.

torrent?

I'd like one too. Is it even legal to download History Channels shows? If so (or hell, even if not) I'd like to know where to find a torrent on it. Sounds interesting.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: aplefka
There was another war, wasn't it the Civil?, that ended and one battle was still fought after because none of the troops involved had heard the news yet.

that's happened more than once, the civil war being one of them. a confederate army in texas won a battle against union troops several days after the surrender.

the big one though was the battle of new orleans. the US won a huge victory there after peace had already been signed with the brits.

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: aplefka
There was another war, wasn't it the Civil?, that ended and one battle was still fought after because none of the troops involved had heard the news yet.

Fox news was not covering it that day.

Seriously, not everyone surrendered at once. One of our Civil War buffs could fill us in.

 

Originally posted by: aplefka

Originally posted by: SampSon
This is the nature of man.
Sad isn't it?

Nah, it's the nature of politics. Man just got mixed up with politics and it caused some bad along with a lot of good.

If you negate contemporary history, than my statement holds true.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: jadinolf

Originally posted by: aplefka
There was another war, wasn't it the Civil?, that ended and one battle was still fought after because none of the troops involved had heard the news yet.

Fox news was not covering it that day.

Seriously, not everyone surrendered at once. One of our Civil War buffs could fill us in.

In the War of 1812 The Battle of New Orleans was fought about two weeks after the war was officially over. Word had not yet reached across the Atlantic.

Edit: Hammer got it

 

[acemcmac]

your government doesen't give a f*ck about you. Plain and simple. This is the way it always has been and always will be. The romanticising of the second world war is revisionist history....

 

[Coquito]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea, lack of modern comms is a pain.

torrent?

I'd like one too. Is it even legal to download History Channels shows? If so (or hell, even if not) I'd like to know where to find a torrent on it. Sounds interesting.

They sell vhs/dvds of everything, so I can't use the "not available" excuse any more.