The Last of Us

[Childs]

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I hated playing as Ellie. In fact I hated that whole part except the small section you play as Joel. I liked the story that went with it, but...I just found it annoying.

That's where I'm gonna have a hard time continuing from.

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I thought that was bad ass. Reminded of that game Siren Blood Curse, and the movie Hannah.

 

[Anubis]

Not having your upgrades, not being able to see, not being able to melee worth a crap, and the AI seeing you through objects and always walking around the side you're hiding on made it terrible.

Actually it really is the AI that screwed it all up. Somehow they always know where you're at and the pathing takes them right to you. It is probably the game's biggest flaw.

Just my opinion on it. Story was excellent there, but the rest not so much for me.

i didn't have any of those issues /shrug

 

[KaOTiK]

Not having your upgrades, not being able to see, not being able to melee worth a crap, and the AI seeing you through objects and always walking around the side you're hiding on made it terrible.

Actually it really is the AI that screwed it all up. Somehow they always know where you're at and the pathing takes them right to you. It is probably the game's biggest flaw.

Just my opinion on it. Story was excellent there, but the rest not so much for me.

Did we play the same game or did yours bug the fuck out?

You could still do the R2 hearing thing to see where enemies were but Ellie wasn't as good at it as Joel was who had obviously been doing it for along time and if you upgraded the ability for Joel it became even more obvious how much weaker it was for Ellie, but it was there and I still found it plenty useful in situations. I don't expect a 14 year old girl to even be close to the same league as Joel when it comes to close combat situations, expecting her to be able to stand toe to toe to older/experienced men that were 2-3 times her size in a fight? That is why you had to sneak attack them all and even when you did the sneak attack stabbing them with the knife, they made the animations show she still had a rough time doing it jumping on on them and holding on as she stabbed them. I do agree about the weapons, she should of taken Joel's since he wasn't obviously going to use them atm.

I didn't have the AI taking paths right towards me unless I made a noise. I play the entire game 99% stealthy and nothing was different when I had to play as Ellie in that regard, things didn't just change as for as AI and pathing.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Whenever I would hide, and it happened almost universally throughout the game, the AI would magically walk my direction. When I was spotted even if I moved and hid again...lazer beam right to me. Usually you could still get a stealth kill, but yeah...they always came to me unless they were on a set path walking back and forth.

It was just an annoyance that was magnified when playing as ellie.

 

[Anubis]

yea i didn't have that happen. now i killed most people in the first part of winter with the bow and arrow. but i stealth killed everyone in the 2nd half and never alerted a 2nd dude

 

[KaOTiK]

Whenever I would hide, and it happened almost universally throughout the game, the AI would magically walk my direction. When I was spotted even if I moved and hid again...lazer beam right to me. Usually you could still get a stealth kill, but yeah...they always came to me unless they were on a set path walking back and forth.

It was just an annoyance that was magnified when playing as ellie.

I didn't have this happen at all when I played. I would watch using R2 and enemies wouldn't come straight to me and in most cases wouldn't even patrol into the room I was in a lot of the times. I had to either go to them for my kills a lot of the times or bring them to me using bricks/bottles. Sure some wondered into the area room I was in but never directly came to me and never more than one even in the areas were there was like 6+ enemies.

 

[Anubis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ICRQYIoORg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJ2C6wAVpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbO7D9YkP-c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejdjcun2Jo4

 

[Topweasel]

I think a lot of it has to do with the access points. The game tends to send guards when entering a new area to the top 2 or 3 points that a person is likely to be at.

Two questions.

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1. Anyone know what happened ti Ish, last he wrote that I read he had escaped with some kids and one of the adult females from the sewer? Wondering if either before or after that if there was any other Ish based discoveries.

2. Reading the letter from Ellies mom, it was written the day after she was born. But it also reads as a goodbye letter. I wonder if they are hinting at the fact that Ellie's mom was bitten at/around the time she was having Ellie. I was wondering if I was right in thinking that they might have been using that to suggest she might have been immune because of it.

 

[purbeast0]

Whenever I would hide, and it happened almost universally throughout the game, the AI would magically walk my direction. When I was spotted even if I moved and hid again...lazer beam right to me. Usually you could still get a stealth kill, but yeah...they always came to me unless they were on a set path walking back and forth.

It was just an annoyance that was magnified when playing as ellie.

yeah i gotta say i've played like 6 hours or so and definitely seen this. maybe not this specifically, but seen stuff happen where it shows how dumb the ai is and that there really is nothing special about the ai in this game. i've also seen stupid ai where the npc is in direct line of sight and they do nothing about it, or i'm hidden behind something and for some reason they can see me.

i also passed the "e3 demo" part last night, and it played out absolutely NOTHING like it did in the e3 demo video lol.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I think a lot of it has to do with the access points. The game tends to send guards when entering a new area to the top 2 or 3 points that a person is likely to be at.

Two questions.

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1. Anyone know what happened ti Ish, last he wrote that I read he had escaped with some kids and one of the adult females from the sewer? Wondering if either before or after that if there was any other Ish based discoveries.

2. Reading the letter from Ellies mom, it was written the day after she was born. But it also reads as a goodbye letter. I wonder if they are hinting at the fact that Ellie's mom was bitten at/around the time she was having Ellie. I was wondering if I was right in thinking that they might have been using that to suggest she might have been immune because of it.

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1) I thought he got out but his GF died inside cause she went back in for some kids?

2) I don't know for sure but I thought her mom gave her to the fireflies cause she was gonna die?

 

[Topweasel]

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1) I thought he got out but his GF died inside cause she went back in for some kids?

2) I don't know for sure but I thought her mom gave her to the fireflies cause she was gonna die?

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1. Nah he says in the note that he had to physically restrain her because she wanted to go in for the bodies (her kids were inside and thefore killed either by Zombies or Kyle (I am thinking Kyle). Doesn't say she was a GF but does say he had some kids with them. Figured with as much information as they gave us that they might have hidden their outcome somewhere.

2. She did but if you read the letter in Ellie's bag (during her scenes in Winter) she wrote a letter to Ellie when she was less than a day old. It reads like a goodbye. Which means she saw her death coming. Which makes me wonder if she gave birth while infected.

 

[cmdrdredd]

No clue now lol I took it as a "you deserve to be happy and peaceful and away from this" *shrug*

 

[Topweasel]

No clue now lol I took it as a "you deserve to be happy and peaceful and away from this" *shrug*

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Well it's just the first line about being a day old and then the last part about leaving her with Marlene. Seemed weird that she would write a goodbye letter to Ellie after 1 day if she wasn't infected.

 

[zerocool84]

yeah i gotta say i've played like 6 hours or so and definitely seen this. maybe not this specifically, but seen stuff happen where it shows how dumb the ai is and that there really is nothing special about the ai in this game. i've also seen stupid ai where the npc is in direct line of sight and they do nothing about it, or i'm hidden behind something and for some reason they can see me.

i also passed the "e3 demo" part last night, and it played out absolutely NOTHING like it did in the e3 demo video lol.

Because it plays different for everyone. That's a great thing about this game, many ways to tackle enemies.

 

[lilrayray69]

What part was the E3 demo?

 

[cmdrdredd]

What part was the E3 demo?

I only remember the God of War demo part which was near the beginning (first clicker).

 

[KaOTiK]

The science behind TLOU
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ngus-that-reduced-humanity-to-the-last-of-us/

Pretty cool article on the Cordyceps fungus

Spider infected with the Cordyceps

 

[ghost recon88]

The science behind TLOU
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ngus-that-reduced-humanity-to-the-last-of-us/

Pretty cool article on the Cordyceps fungus

Spider infected with the Cordyceps

That looks nasty

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Just got to the part where Ellie kills David, man this game is great, been playing 3 or 4 hours a night for the last few.

Easily one of the best games I've ever played.

 

[exdeath]

How the hell did this game only break 1 million copies on launch!?

I swear there must be 99% of the population with an Xbox and ONLY Halo, Call of Doodoo, and Madden on the shelf.

Ni no Kuni is a JRPG so I can understand only 800,000 units but how does a generation defining masterpiece like The Last of Us only manage 1 million?

God I hate people.

 

[purbeast0]

How the hell did this game only break 1 million copies on launch!?

I swear there must be 99% of the population with an Xbox and ONLY Halo, Call of Doodoo, and Madden on the shelf.

Ni no Kuni is a JRPG so I can understand only 800,000 units but how does a generation defining masterpiece like The Last of Us only manage 1 million?

God I hate people.

who cares? it's not like that stops you from enjoying it, and we know that naughty dog isn't going to stop churning out master pieces.

you worry too much about what games other people like.

 

[cmdrdredd]

How the hell did this game only break 1 million copies on launch!?

I swear there must be 99% of the population with an Xbox and ONLY Halo, Call of Doodoo, and Madden on the shelf.

Ni no Kuni is a JRPG so I can understand only 800,000 units but how does a generation defining masterpiece like The Last of Us only manage 1 million?

God I hate people.

One reason...it was released right after the bombshells at e3. I know a ton of people who went and traded in their consoles for the new one(s). People are anticipating buying a new system and a few games in only a few months time.

It just got overshadowed by all that hoopla.

 

[exdeath]

who cares? it's not like that stops you from enjoying it, and we know that naughty dog isn't going to stop churning out master pieces.

you worry too much about what games other people like.

Majority/mainstream money drives the industry. Of course its a concern.

 

[lilrayray69]

I do find it weird that basically nobody I know has even heard of this game, even those I know have PS3's. Kind of sad

 

[cmdrdredd]

Now that I think about it. Had this game had an engine designed for the ps4 and been announced as a ps4 launch title, how many copies would have sold then?

 

[Anubis]

I do find it weird that basically nobody I know has even heard of this game, even those I know have PS3's. Kind of sad

TBH for most people if they dont read gaming forums/sites the only way they know about stuff is going to the store. and id wager most people are like that