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SKORPI0

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Megan Rapinoe snubbed for an interview after the game.
Those 3 goals by Christine Sinclair was one of a kind. :awe:
 

pelov

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The second call was clearly on the hand, but a) was the result of the free kick call which was ridiculous, and b) it wasn't clearly intentional, which is a requirement for a handball to be called, and the amount that is let go as unintentional usually goes up for one that results in a penalty.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm

It doesn't have to be intentional, you just have to have intentionally placed your arms anywhere else but close to your sides. Players on the wall are taught to never bent their elbows and stick their hands out because instances like that can happen and do happen. She was on the outer edge by the far post, which is where most free kicks go. She bent her elbow and moved her hands away from her body and the ball hit her hand. Sometimes those aren't called but sometimes they are. That's why you always turn your head to the side and keep your arms locked. It's a natural instinct to move your arms like she did but in soccer you're taught not to do that.

The free kick is another matter. When a keeper takes too much time they get a warning first. I'm not sure if there was a warning because I may have missed it, but there's almost never a free kick for time wasting going against a keeper. The referee usually lets the keeper kick the ball (after getting a warning), waits for the ball to go out of play and then gives the keeper a yellow for wasting time. I don't think I've ever seen a referee give a free kick for time wasting in that position.

The US shouldn't have been given that free kick. Canada did play quite dirty that game, though. The US is a physical team, but they're really fair in their challenges. The Canadians looked to go out there and earn the US some bookings with some diving and injury feigning. The end of the game where Morgan was laughing at the referee for getting carded when she didn't even make an effort on the ball at all but the Canadian player went down was a testimony to that. The US also outplayed them the entire game, despite a few lapses in concentration on defense. I think the outcome was well deserved, though you can debate the legitimacy of that free kick that made it 3-3.
 

Blackjack200

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The second call was clearly on the hand, but a) was the result of the free kick call which was ridiculous, and b) it wasn't clearly intentional, which is a requirement for a handball to be called, and the amount that is let go as unintentional usually goes up for one that results in a penalty.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/rules_and_equipment/4524354.stm

You can't use your hand to stop a free kick and then claim it was defensive. I'll watch the play again when I get home, but my memory is that the Canadian player was turning away from the shot and threw her hand away from her body, and the ball hit it, possibly on its way to the goal.

That American referee CHEATED Canada out of a Chance at a Gold Medal.

100% cheat, incredibly blatant. THere needs to be an investigation just like that boxing ref the other day.



I watched my hockey team lose game six of the Stanley Cup Finals on a call I didn't like. You can be gracious and congratulate the winner or you can act like a child.
 

JujuFish

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I watched my hockey team lose game six of the Stanley Cup Finals on a call I didn't like. You can be gracious and congratulate the winner or you can act like a child.
My team "lost" game six of the Stanley Cup finals in double overtime on a call, or lack thereof, that I didn't like. I'm still waiting for the rest of game 6 to be played.
 

mugs

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It doesn't have to be intentional, you just have to have intentionally placed your arms anywhere else but close to your sides. Players on the wall are taught to never bent their elbows and stick their hands out because instances like that can happen and do happen. She was on the outer edge by the far post, which is where most free kicks go. She bent her elbow and moved her hands away from her body and the ball hit her hand. Sometimes those aren't called but sometimes they are. That's why you always turn your head to the side and keep your arms locked. It's a natural instinct to move your arms like she did but in soccer you're taught not to do that.

The free kick is another matter. When a keeper takes too much time they get a warning first. I'm not sure if there was a warning because I may have missed it, but there's almost never a free kick for time wasting going against a keeper. The referee usually lets the keeper kick the ball (after getting a warning), waits for the ball to go out of play and then gives the keeper a yellow for wasting time. I don't think I've ever seen a referee give a free kick for time wasting in that position.

The US shouldn't have been given that free kick. Canada did play quite dirty that game, though. The US is a physical team, but they're really fair in their challenges. The Canadians looked to go out there and earn the US some bookings with some diving and injury feigning. The end of the game where Morgan was laughing at the referee for getting carded when she didn't even make an effort on the ball at all but the Canadian player went down was a testimony to that. The US also outplayed them the entire game, despite a few lapses in concentration on defense. I think the outcome was well deserved, though you can debate the legitimacy of that free kick that made it 3-3.

Abby Wambach said the keeper was warned earlier in the game about holding the ball too long.
 

SKORPI0

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You can't use your hand to stop a free kick and then claim it was defensive. I'll watch the play again when I get home, but my memory is that the Canadian player was turning away from the shot and threw her hand away from her body, and the ball hit it, possibly on its way to the goal.



That call was pure BS IMO. But rules are rules while you're inside the penalty area. D:
 

waggy

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That call was pure BS IMO. But rules are rules while you're inside the penalty area. D:

I think that penalty was legit. I do wonder why they got a free kick on holding the ball to long. im surpised its that harsh. maybe a corner kick or something.

though the goalie was a idiot for holding to long.
 

spacejamz

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The most interesting thing to happen in a soccer match. Thanks for the highlights!

canada was clutching the jerseys of the american players all game along...at least they were when they were not shoving them to the ground...
 

Northern Lawn

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canada was clutching the jerseys of the american players all game along...at least they were when they were not shoving them to the ground...

Thats not what I saw and I have a 60 inch plasma.

Granted I only watched the last 15 mins overtime, but I saw Americans constantly kicking the shins of Canadian players and even going for the knees. That bitch that scored that goal actually hyper extended the leg of one of our best players who had to leave the game. No Fouls called nothing.

American Referee for the win. Congrats.

Edit: I'm so pissed that I'm not going to watch soccer again till the next Olympics, IF Canada plays the USA and, someone tells me we're winning AND it's in overtime.
 
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spacejamz

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Thats not what I saw and I have a 60 inch plasma.

Granted I only watched the last 15 mins overtime thing but I saw Americans constantly kicking the shins of Canadian players and even going for the knees. That bitch that scored that goal actually hyper extended the leg of one of our best players who had to leave the game. No Fouls called nothing.

American Referee for the win. Congrats.

the canadians were playing much dirtier in the 1st half.....guess they were more tired in the 2nd half because they weren't able to keep up with the american players to push them down like they did in the 1st half...
 

pelov

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Granted I only watched the last 15 mins overtime, but I saw Americans constantly kicking the shins of Canadian players and even going for the knees. That bitch that scored that goal actually hyper extended the leg of one of our best players who had to leave the game. No Fouls called nothing.

You didn't watch the game.

#1 - it wasn't Morgan who clashed with her. It was somebody else.

#2 - they clashed knees running to a ball. The Canadian player hyperextended her leg and caught the worst of it. That happens, it's called a challenge.

#3 - the Canadians played far dirtier the entire game, with respect to the tackles and the diving -- the latter was progressively worse as soon as the Canadians grabbed the lead and was the reason the referee was quick on the whistle when the keeper took too long to kick the ball.

Abby Wambach said the keeper was warned earlier in the game about holding the ball too long.

Ah, I must've missed that, but that still doesn't explain the free kick.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blo...nada-goalkeeper-erin-mcleod-wasting-time.html

I’ve watched more professional soccer matches than I can possible count. (Best, ridiculously wild-ass guess: somewhere north of 2,000.) I have never – no exaggeration here, never – seen that called.
I went back and counted. McLeod (pictured above) had the ball in her hands for 11 or 12 seconds; some of that was on the ground, which referees typically wouldn’t count toward the six permitted seconds for distribution. Or that’s what I’d guess. Again, I’ve never seen this be a big issue.
Yes, her 11- or 12-second hold represents a clear, technical violation of the “six second rule,” a law that is violated at least a dozen times in every professional match.

And he's 100% right in that it's never -- and I do mean never called. The way it happens is that there's a warning first (like you said there was) but then the referee waits for the keeper to clear the ball and books the keeper when the ball goes out of play. A delayed booking is very common for a keeper wasting time, particularly in tournaments, but an indirect free kick is never given in that scenario.
 
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Northern Lawn

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You didn't watch the game.

#1 - it wasn't Morgan who clashed with her. It was somebody else.

#2 - they clashed knees running to a ball. The Canadian player hyperextended her leg and caught the worst of it. That happens, it's called a challenge.

#3 - the Canadians played far dirtier the entire game, with respect to the tackles and the diving -- the latter was progressively worse as soon as the Canadians grabbed the lead and was the reason the referee was quick on the whistle when the keeper took too long to kick the ball.

@#1 - All I know it was a Hot blonde Chick.

@#2 - In Hockey it's called a hip check.

@#3 - Damn, I missed the fun.. .no I didn't, it's soccer.
 

KentState

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Don't know if the soccer match is any more ridiculous than the Aussies getting a penalty shot with 1 second left in the water polo game today.
 

Northern Lawn

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In Hockey, the good refs put the whistle away in important games unless something is incredibly flagrant.
 

dr150

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Oops, another gold medal for the UK.

UK is kicking some major ass at these Olympics.

They've taken this "home field advantage" thing to another level.

It'll be interesting to see how much they drop off in the medal count in Rio....
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Brilliant thought! Canada should host the Summer Olympics so they can win another Gold beyond the trampoline...
 
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WelshBloke

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UK is kicking some major ass at these Olympics.

They've taken this "home field advantage" thing to another level.

It'll be interesting to see how much they drop off in the medal count in Rio....
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Brilliant thought! Canada should host the Summer Olympics so they can win another Gold beyond the trampoline...

I think we came 4th in China. Hopefully 3rd this year.
 
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