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KentState

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In Hockey, the good refs put the whistle away in important games unless something is incredibly flagrant.

Guess you didn't see the red card worthy head stomp that your "best" player made against the American on the ground? That right there would have dropped Canada down to 10 players at the 55 minute mark. There are plenty of missed calls, even ones as flagrant as stomping on a down player's head.
 
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Guess you didn't see the red card worthy head stomp that your "best" player made against the American on the ground? That right there would have dropped Canada down to 10 players at the 55 minute mark. There are plenty of missed calls, even ones as flagrant as stomping on a down player's head.

I must say, its so weird how some people take nationalism to some weird level.

Instead of saying "American Player" to signify a player on the American team, people like you say the "American", like its some attack against America and American values and not the player him/herself.

Do you ever hear the "American Player hit the Canadian/Pakistani/Mexian/Britain in the head"?
 

rcpratt

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I think that penalty was legit. I do wonder why they got a free kick on holding the ball to long. im surpised its that harsh. maybe a corner kick or something.

though the goalie was a idiot for holding to long.
It's an indirect free kick foul...much less valuable than a direct free kick.

My understanding was that she had received no warning - but then I read a quote that she was warned by one of the assistant referees (linesman). If that's the case, then good for the referee for knowing that the linesman had warned her, and good for her for calling it. That's a much different story than no warning at all.
A delayed booking is very common for a keeper wasting time, particularly in tournaments, but an indirect free kick is never given in that scenario.
If the ref is going to book the keeper after the player for delay of game, then they're doing her a favor. I have no problem with calling it like the rulebook says - violate the rule, and it's an indirect free kick from the spot of the foul.
 
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KentState

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I must say, its so weird how some people take nationalism to some weird level.

Instead of saying "American Player" to signify a player on the American team, people like you say the "American", like its some attack against America and American values and not the player him/herself.

Do you ever hear the "American Player hit the Canadian/Pakistani/Mexian/Britain in the head"?

Exactly, from a post on the internet you know exactly the context which I meant that in.

People like you are what's wrong with people like you.
 

actuarial

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It doesn't have to be intentional, you just have to have intentionally placed your arms anywhere else but close to your sides. Players on the wall are taught to never bent their elbows and stick their hands out because instances like that can happen and do happen. She was on the outer edge by the far post, which is where most free kicks go. She bent her elbow and moved her hands away from her body and the ball hit her hand. Sometimes those aren't called but sometimes they are. That's why you always turn your head to the side and keep your arms locked. It's a natural instinct to move your arms like she did but in soccer you're taught not to do that.

AFAIK, it does actually have to be intentional (according to the rules), but having your arms out in preparation for it is usually deemed as intentionally causing it. This was about as grey area as it can get, given that the arms were extended, though in a manner in which it looked like she was going to block her face, and the kick went directly at her.

I have seen more obvious 'arms to the side' instances in professional soccer where it was still deemed 'ball to hand' and a penalty was not awarded. It almost always gets called outside the box, but is much less often called where it would result in a penalty. I don't think the handball call in itself was horrible, but I know I've seen similar plays where the call was not made. I think calling it either a clear cut call or a horrible call would be incorrect.

The free kick is another matter. When a keeper takes too much time they get a warning first. I'm not sure if there was a warning because I may have missed it, but there's almost never a free kick for time wasting going against a keeper. The referee usually lets the keeper kick the ball (after getting a warning), waits for the ball to go out of play and then gives the keeper a yellow for wasting time. I don't think I've ever seen a referee give a free kick for time wasting in that position.

I don't think I've ever seen a ref give a free kick for time wasting PERIOD. Had the handball not been a direct result of the free kick I don't think anyone would be nearly upset.
 

pelov

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I don't think I've ever seen a ref give a free kick for time wasting PERIOD. Had the handball not been a direct result of the free kick I don't think anyone would be nearly upset.

Well, you do see it sometimes, but only if the player has already been booked and the referee can opt to award a free kick rather than dishing out a red card. Frankly, it'd be a better decision than a red card anyway, particularly in the middle of the pitch where the free kick wouldn't matter. It certainly shouldn't happen with the goalkeeper who hasn't been carded for it and within the 18-yard box. That was just an unbelievably poor call.

It could have been a way to even up the missed call with the headstomping, though. Sometimes the referee sees something on video at half or gets told that they missed something during the first half and they may even it out in the 2nd half. Both events happened in the second half here, but it could be the linesman admitting they fluffed it and the referee then awarding the US that free kick. The referees, at least the good ones, usually do a good job of keeping calls, even missed ones, balanced. Or it could just be an incredibly shitty referee who didn't know what they were doing ;P
 

dennilfloss

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UK is kicking some major ass at these Olympics.

They've taken this "home field advantage" thing to another level.

It'll be interesting to see how much they drop off in the medal count in Rio....
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Brilliant thought! Canada should host the Summer Olympics so they can win another Gold beyond the trampoline...

For the record of those who may not know their olympic history: Home advantage did not help Canada in Montreal in 1976 as we became the first host nation not to win a single gold meal. That shame did spur us to improve pour athletic programs though, so it probably woudn't repeat itself the next time we host a summer olympics.
 

AznAnarchy99

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Amazing beach volleyball set with US and China. Also Mexico's icing on the cake goal in the extended time to shut out Japan.
 

96Firebird

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Guess you didn't see the red card worthy head stomp that your "best" player made against the American on the ground? That right there would have dropped Canada down to 10 players at the 55 minute mark. There are plenty of missed calls, even ones as flagrant as stomping on a down player's head.

This intrigued me, so I went and looked it up. Here is a gif of it, pretty shocking...

 
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