The London 2012 Olympic Games...

[The Boston Dangler]

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/soccer/highlight-melissa-tancredi-stomps-carli-lloyds-face.html

Canada bunch of dirty players. No red card was called.

1. accusing an opponent of "dirty" play and "highly illegal tactics" BEFORE a game

2. criticizing officials after a game

both can be interpreted as "bringing the sport into disrepute". time to bring the hammer down and make an example out of them.

 

[Sephire]

Canada will only get verbal lashing from the Soccer Big Boss. There is no way they will suspend Sinclair or Tancredi on a medal game.

 

[Northern Lawn]

You put a camera into the face of a player right after a very emotional game hoping to get an emotional response.. then want to punish her for it, lol.

Like the American political system, the Olympics are a corrupt bloated joke.

 

[Northern Lawn]

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/soccer/highlight-melissa-tancredi-stomps-carli-lloyds-face.html

Canada bunch of dirty players. No red card was called.

Face it, Americans cheated to win. You might not think so but they do think that on English forums where they actually understand the rules of soccer or whatever it's called.

 

[Udgnim]

obvious photoshop

 

[pcgeek11]

Face it, Americans cheated to win. You might not think so but they do think that on English forums where they actually understand the rules of soccer or whatever it's called.

How exactly did the US Team Cheat?

Be specific. We would all like to hear it.

Sour Grapes IMO.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

How exactly did the US Team Cheat?

Be specific. We would all like to hear it.

Sour Grapes IMO.

rigging the officiating so that they would get a free penalty kick in the event that canada was beating them

 

[Sephire]

lol

 

[BrokenVisage]

I find it comical that the US could protest Raisman's score in that one event and miraculously get JUST enough points, to the THOUSANDTH decimal, in order to win the bronze. Seriously? What's stopping everyone else from protesting if they come up just short of medaling? What if she went earlier and didn't know it wouldn't be enough to make bronze? The whole thing is silly to me, the athletes who go last already have the advantage of knowing what scores they need to beat, now they get ANOTHER advantage of being able to protest if their score comes close but are not good enough? Whatever, China will beat us out in the medal race anyway and we probably deserve it at this point, not to mention Japan will probably beat us too, Choke Solo will reemerge.

 

[waggy]

I find it comical that the US could protest Raisman's score in that one event and miraculously get JUST enough points, to the THOUSANDTH decimal, in order to win the bronze. Seriously? What's stopping everyone else from protesting if they come up just short of medaling? What if she went earlier and didn't know it wouldn't be enough to make bronze? The whole thing is silly to me, the athletes who go last already have the advantage of knowing what scores they need to beat, now they get ANOTHER advantage of being able to protest if their score comes close but are not good enough? Whatever, China will beat us out in the medal race anyway and we probably deserve it at this point, not to mention Japan will probably beat us too, Choke Solo will reemerge.

IF the judges would have scored her right the first time there would have been no need to rejudge.

Knowing what score you NEED to beat is not a huge advantage. in fact in many cases it puts more pressure on. And knowing you need a 16+ to win is not the same as going and getting it.

 

[purbeast0]

I find it comical that the US could protest Raisman's score in that one event and miraculously get JUST enough points, to the THOUSANDTH decimal, in order to win the bronze. Seriously? What's stopping everyone else from protesting if they come up just short of medaling? What if she went earlier and didn't know it wouldn't be enough to make bronze? The whole thing is silly to me, the athletes who go last already have the advantage of knowing what scores they need to beat, now they get ANOTHER advantage of being able to protest if their score comes close but are not good enough? Whatever, China will beat us out in the medal race anyway and we probably deserve it at this point, not to mention Japan will probably beat us too, Choke Solo will reemerge.

you apparently have no clue how gymnastics is judged.

 

[Jeffg010]

Face it, Americans cheated to win. You might not think so but they do think that on English forums where they actually understand the rules of soccer or whatever it's called.

How many times have you cried at night knowing Canada will never be as good as America? Suck it Canada!

 

[PottedMeat]

obvious photoshop

anyone know what this kind of editing/camerawork is called? i remember something similar in that ken block gymkhana video.

 

[ViRGE]

anyone know what this kind of editing/camerawork is called? i remember something similar in that ken block gymkhana video.

Bullet time?

 

[BrokenVisage]

you apparently have no clue how gymnastics is judged.

Did I say I did? How gymnastics is specifically judged is ancillary to the point I'm trying to argue. I couldn't care any less about how the judges judge or how they award points, it doesn't matter, I'm just poking holes in the hypocracy of letting athletes protest a judgement in real-time where they have the advantage of knowing what scores they have to beat if they're one of the last to go. Now, if they open up re-evaluation possibilities for everybody at the end of the event then I'm onboard with that, but there shouldn't be a stupid time limit that you need to be under in order to file a protest. Maybe I'm missing something here, and since it's women's gymnastics that's probably the case, so maybe you can educate on how this is fair since you seem to be confident in knowing how judging gymnastics works.

 

[Sephire]

Kudos to Bela Karolyi for recognizing the scoring error.

 

[dainthomas]

Face it, Americans cheated to win. You might not think so but they do think that on English forums where they actually understand the rules of soccer or whatever it's called.

Lol, English fans are acknowledged as the biggest goons in existence. I am unshocked that they approve of someone getting their head stomped.

Maybe if you didn't live in a barren, frigid wasteland like Manitoba, you wouldn't be so jealous of how awesome America is.

 

[Printer Bandit]

Sports with subjective judging should be banned. We have no idea who the judges are and what their qualifications are.

 

[HN]

I find it comical that the US could protest Raisman's score in that one event...

If you thought that was comical, you would have been ROFLAO when Japan protested the score last week for the men's team competition. The Japanese coach was running around the competition floor with several $100's in his hand (the protest requires a fee). It really did look like he was attempting a bribe if you weren't paying attention

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olymp...coach-100-bills-hand-file-141557317--oly.html

 

[benzylic]

Sports with subjective judging should be banned. We have no idea who the judges are and what their qualifications are.

thats ridiculous.

you want to eliminate: gymnastics, diving, boxing, basketball, soccer, volleyball, badminton, tennis, water polo, shot put, discus, synchronized swimming. long jump, triple jump, fencing, trampoline, field hockey, judo, taekwondo... or any event thats not a race. and those are only the summer events, do that to the winter olympics would eliminate almost the enitre thing.

 

[bfdd]

If you thought that was comical, you would have been ROFLAO when Japan protested the score last week for the men's team competition. The Japanese coach was running around the competition floor with several $100's in his hand (the protest requires a fee). It really did look like he was attempting a bribe if you weren't paying attention

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olymp...coach-100-bills-hand-file-141557317--oly.html

It is a bribe, they just call it an appeal fee and we some how don't bat an eye lash. It's silly lol, but it has happened many times before. I love watching Gymnastics, but I think the judging is terrible and I hate how it's scored some times as you can tell there's a lot of bias towards some nations from some nations judges. You also have to remember they don't have all the views and angles we get at home and can only see those things AFTER the fact. Just so many flaws in judging.

 

[purbeast0]

Did I say I did? How gymnastics is specifically judged is ancillary to the point I'm trying to argue. I couldn't care any less about how the judges judge or how they award points, it doesn't matter, I'm just poking holes in the hypocracy of letting athletes protest a judgement in real-time where they have the advantage of knowing what scores they have to beat if they're one of the last to go. Now, if they open up re-evaluation possibilities for everybody at the end of the event then I'm onboard with that, but there shouldn't be a stupid time limit that you need to be under in order to file a protest. Maybe I'm missing something here, and since it's women's gymnastics that's probably the case, so maybe you can educate on how this is fair since you seem to be confident in knowing how judging gymnastics works.

the judging of gymnastics is based 100% on technicalities.

the gymnast starts out with X amount of points. that is what her routine would be if she did a 100% flawless performance. some gymnasts do harder routines than others, which gives them a higher starting score. each item in the routine has a point value, and those points make up the starting scores.

each move in the routine also has a score associated with each flaw that could potentially happen. for instance, a balance check on the beam may be .3 or .5 points, depending on the severity of it. moves not "being in a row" also can cause for deductions to come off.

while those are only a couple examples, all of the deductions are pretty much a technicality. so basically the coach on the side SHOULD know what the score is going to be based off of what he watched, and he should also know what the starting base score is.

so after the routine is done, the coach should be able to calculate what the score SHOULD be based on his observation. apparently the scores weren't accurate to what he thought, and that is the reason he protested. and apparently he was right, because the starting score was wrong based on all of the moves that the gymnast was going to pull off, since they moved the starting score higher.

note that after the challenge of the score, they did not change their decisions on the points they deducted during the routine, so the judges judgement was not challenged. they challenged the starting score, which should be a very fine line that is set PRIOR to the routine even starting.

and i believe (but am not 100% on this) that in the case of a tie breaker, which happened last night, that the gymnast who had the best execution (which would mean the LEAST amount of points deducted from their starting score) wins the tie breaker. this is where the risk/reward comes into play with trying to do a more difficult routine sometimes. it unfortunately cost the bronze medal for the one girl last night.

 

[Printer Bandit]

thats ridiculous.

you want to eliminate: gymnastics, diving, boxing, basketball, soccer, volleyball, badminton, tennis, water polo, shot put, discus, synchronized swimming. long jump, triple jump, fencing, trampoline, field hockey, judo, taekwondo... or any event thats not a race. and those are only the summer events, do that to the winter olympics would eliminate almost the enitre thing.

or how about we replace human judges with high speed cameras tied to a power computer like Watson?

 

[dr150]

or how about we replace human judges with high speed cameras tied to a power computer like Watson?

Have callers call or text in their rating.

 

[dr150]

Lets all take a break from quibbling and enjoy more important matters at hand. :thumbsup: