The media lies about the number of school shootings.

SlowSpyder

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wait you are not dead from second hand smoke yet?

So far so good. Any comment on the media lying about school shootings, inflating the number for their leftist agenda?

Just think, the likelihood of dying from a gun is significantly less than second hand smoke! Crazy, eh?
 
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purbeast0

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So that kids logic in the 2nd link is that if a shooter shoots himself with a gun in school, that it is not a shooting? Is that really what he is trying to say? That shooting a gun in a school is not a shooting?
 

SlowSpyder

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So that kids logic in the 2nd link is that if a shooter shoots himself with a gun in school, that it is not a shooting? Is that really what he is trying to say? That shooting a gun in a school is not a shooting?

To group it in with mass shootings is kind of silly. One is violent intent towards others, suicide is not. But hey, anything to make it sound worse than it is.
 

SlowSpyder

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Only 3 in a 45 day period...no problem here folks!

Now compare that to every other modern country...even on a per-capita basis.


I did not say three is good, any are tragic and terrible. But it stands to reason we have more gun deaths. In a country full of cars there will be more deaths due to car accidents, too. The point is three is a far cry from 18, but the media spoon feeds the anti-2A leftists inflated numbers and the cucks gobble it up and don't care.
 
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I did not say three is good, any are tragic and terrible. But it stands to reason we have more gun deaths. In a country full of cars there will be more deaths due to car accidents, too. The point is three is a far cry from 18, but the media spoon feeds the anti-2A leftists inflated numbers and the cucks gobble it up and don't care.
But it's not proportional. There isn't proportionally more gun deaths vs. the quantity of guns vs. other nations. There isn't proportionally the number of school shootings vs. other nation due to the number of guns. There isn't proportionally the same number of mass shootings vs...
 
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Can someone help me since I can't see Youtube videos at work. How did they conclude there was only 3? What criteria was it based on and what was ruled out to arrive at that number?

Was it fatalities only? Did they reject college/university incidents? Accidental discharges?

Help me out here.
 

Homerboy

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You're just posting this now? Jesus christ this was covered months ago after (sadly I forget the name) school shooting took place
So great to have you back posting new threads.
 

UNCjigga

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I did not say three is good, any are tragic and terrible. But it stands to reason we have more gun deaths. In a country full of cars there will be more deaths due to car accidents, too. The point is three is a far cry from 18, but the media spoon feeds the anti-2A leftists inflated numbers and the cucks gobble it up and don't care.

Or, the "cucks" know how to read the fine print.
 

SlowSpyder

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Can someone help me since I can't see Youtube videos at work. How did they conclude there was only 3? What criteria was it based on and what was ruled out to arrive at that number?

Was it fatalities only? Did they reject college/university incidents? Accidental discharges?

Help me out here.

Multiple media outlets claimed there were 18 school shootings over 45 days. Ben Shapiro dug into the 18 and found that many of the claims were bogus. A kid pulled the trigger on a cop's gun, a stray bullet flew through a window, that kind of thing. Three were verified shootings, however.
 
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Multiple media outlets claimed there were 18 school shootings over 45 days. Ben Shapiro dug into the 18 and found that many of the claims were bogus. A kid pulled the trigger on a cop's gun, a stray bullet flew through a window, that kind of thing. Three were verified shootings, however.
And what was the time frame used?
 

Pipeline 1010

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It's not a lie if the methodology is clearly stated

Yeah it's not a lie, it's just deliberately misleading. When I hear "school shootings" my mind imagines people shooting children in school. It's an instinctual reaction, and everyone else here probably had that same reaction.
 
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SlowSpyder

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And what was the time frame used?

Roughly 1/1/18 - 2/15/18. The number came from Everytown for Gun Safety, and the media ran with it.

Two were suicides, one in a parking lot one was a man in a school bathroom. How he explains is: Four times a gun was fired through a windows - A gun shot on January 4th went through a highschool window, no injuries. January 10th a shot broke a window at "a California university class window, no injuries, January 10th a bullet went through a wall at a TX criminal justice school, no injuries, on January 15th a bullet went through a dorm room, no injuries, January 25th a Mobile, AL student fired a gun on campus, no injuries, January 26th shots fired in a parking lot, no injuries. On February 5th a 3rd grader pulled the trigger on a cops gun. On Feb 8th a shot was fired in Metropolitan High School, no injuries. He has more and breaks down the shootings where there was an injury other than the shooter, there were three incidents of such.
 

UNCjigga

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Yeah it's not a lie, it's just deliberately misleading. When I hear "school shootings" my mind imagines people shooting children in school. It's an instinctual reaction, and everyone else here probably had that same reaction.

I would argue that public schools are designated as gun-free school zones (some might disagree that's a good thing.). So any discharge of a firearm on school property is a potential hazard that would be tracked. In case anyone disagrees, they can filter the data the same way Shapiro did.
 

purbeast0

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To group it in with mass shootings is kind of silly. One is violent intent towards others, suicide is not. But hey, anything to make it sound worse than it is.
What? I never said mass shooting, neither did any of the people in those 20 or 30 clips he used in his video.
 

purbeast0

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Say what you want, it is obvious that it is an attempt to mislead, over-magnify a problem for partisan goals.
I mean it still is a huge problem. It's your fault for assuming that is what they meant. I didn't assume they meant mass shooting just from watching that clip, which is why I made my initial post.

But it does mean that kids or whoever had access to guns and could bring them on school grounds and shoot them. That alone is a huge problem.
 
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Say what you want, it is obvious that it is an attempt to mislead, over-magnify a problem for partisan goals.
How much does it really over magnify it though? If you look over the last ten years there have literally been hundreds of shootings in schools. Far outpacing the rest of the world by a factor that far and above exceeds the rate of gun ownership of those countries VS the US.
 
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