The media lies about the number of school shootings.

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Homerboy

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I mean it still is a huge problem. It's your fault for assuming that is what they meant. I didn't assume they meant mass shooting just from watching that clip, which is why I made my initial post.

But it does mean that kids or whoever had access to guns and could bring them on school grounds and shoot them. That alone is a huge problem.

You're arguing with a wall. Don't waste the electrons
 
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dank69

Lifer
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To group it in with mass shootings is kind of silly. One is violent intent towards others, suicide is not. But hey, anything to make it sound worse than it is.
I agree, kids blowing their brains out in school is no big deal. Stupid leftists.
 
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SlowSpyder

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How much does it really over magnify it though? If you look over the last ten years there have literally been hundreds of shootings in schools. Far outpacing the rest of the world by a factor that far and above exceeds the rate of gun ownership of those countries VS the US.


Saying "school shootings' implies children being shot how it is used in the media. As we see, more often than not that simply isn't the case.

And I have to disagree to a point. We have a right that many other countries do not have that gives us access to firearms easily. I think reasonable measures should be taken to keep guns out of kids' hands, certainly. But how we compare to other countries really doesn't matter here.
 

Rifter

Lifer
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The media lies about alot of things, im not sure why this surprises anyone anymore.

You used to be able to rely on the media, back in the 70's-80's. Now its a total and complete joke where everyone is just pushing their agenda and the truth doesnt matter to them.
 

SlowSpyder

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So you didn't say a person shooting someone else in school is worse than a person shooting themselves in school?

I said the intent is different. Someone choosing to take all of their own rights away is not the same as someone choosing to end your rights, end your life. If the kid hung himself int he school bathroom, is that somehow less tragic to you? Isn't the left pro-right-to-die?
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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The media lies about alot of things, im not sure why this surprises anyone anymore.

You used to be able to rely on the media, back in the 70's-80's. Now its a total and complete joke where everyone is just pushing their agenda and the truth doesnt matter to them.


Agree, the main media outlets have basically become mouthpieces for their respective team. It is what we get with a media that has to serve their base (on both sides) for revenue and profit over truth.
 

dank69

Lifer
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I said the intent is different. Someone choosing to take all of their own rights away is not the same as someone choosing to end your rights, end your life. If the kid hung himself int he school bathroom, is that somehow less tragic to you? Isn't the left pro-right-to-die?
Let's go to the tape:
To group it in with mass shootings is kind of silly. One is violent intent towards others, suicide is not. But hey, anything to make it sound worse than it is.
I don't see the word different. I see the word worse.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Let's go to the tape:
I don't see the word different. I see the word worse.


Yup, the media makes the problem sound worse than it is. Did you see the part where I mentioned the types of incident they use to make the number sound worse than it actually is? Or are you purposely ignoring that just to zoom in on the suicide I mentioned? Calling a third grader pulling the trigger on a cop's holstered gun is misleading, it makes the problem sound worse than it is when they call that a school shooting. I hope you can connect the dots.
 

SlowSpyder

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Yup, the media makes the problem sound worse than it is. Did you see the part where I mentioned the types of incident they use to make the number sound worse than it actually is? Or are you purposely ignoring that just to zoom in on the suicide I mentioned? Calling a third grader pulling the trigger on a cop's holstered gun is misleading, it makes the problem sound worse than it is when they call that a school shooting. I hope you can connect the dots.

Let's go to the tape:
I don't see the word different. I see the word worse.

Actually the more I think about it, yes, a person shooting others in school is worse than a person committing suicide in school. One is a choice one makes for themselves, I don't think the setting matters. The other is forcibly taking away someone else's rights, taking away all that they will ever have against their will. But again, you are missing the point because you have your partisan blinders on.

Is it a "school shooting" when a man shoots himself in a former school parking lot? Because that was one of the reported 18.
 
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UNCjigga

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Illegal immigration? In what way? Voter fraud? Probably alike, yes.

Right wing media/pundits claiming that more immigration or undocumented immigrants bring greater crime, when the actual data shows the opposite.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Right wing media/pundits claiming that more immigration or undocumented immigrants bring greater crime, when the actual data shows the opposite.

No, I think they are spot on with that. I'm sure we read different sources. Can you tell me the benefits of not having border security when you have enemies and parasitic people near by? You don't think there is benefit to vetting whom we allow in our country to stay and vote?
 

MooseNSquirrel

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No, I think they are spot on with that. I'm sure we read different sources. Can you tell me the benefits of not having border security when you have enemies and parasitic people near by? You don't think there is benefit to vetting whom we allow in our country to stay and vote?

Fail again. Those 2 discussion items are unrelated.

Also lies about who borders us.
 

dank69

Lifer
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Actually the more I think about it, yes, a person shooting others in school is worse than a person committing suicide in school. One is a choice one makes for themselves, I don't think the setting matters. The other is forcibly taking away someone else's rights, taking away all that they will ever have against their will. But again, you are missing the point because you have your partisan blinders on.

Is it a "school shooting" when a man shoots himself in a former school parking lot? Because that was one of the reported 18.
Then my original point stands. No need to try to reduce the number of people blowing their brains out at schools. Adding those numbers to the number of tragedies at schools is a vile leftist plot. I thank God we have smart people like you who can see through the lies. I, myself, believe everything I see in the media. Do you know how many people the Clintons have killed? At least 30 and that's just the ones we know about.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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Then my original point stands. No need to try to reduce the number of people blowing their brains out at schools. Adding those numbers to the number of tragedies at schools is a vile leftist plot. I thank God we have smart people like you who can see through the lies. I, myself, believe everything I see in the media. Do you know how many people the Clintons have killed? At least 30 and that's just the ones we know about.


You're focusing on the setting and not the real issue.
 

0roo0roo

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#fakenews isn't fake if it fits the agenda.

but yes, many of the cited "school shooting" stats used by democrat activists cannot be verified.

But then again, 1 in 5 was a lie, and you see them wail about it to this very day, in fact if you dig back, the impetus for the NPR study was the case of Laura Dunn, which itself turned out to be a likely a case of false accusation itself. A decade of fake news with repercussions to this very day.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-media-is-making-college-rape-culture-worse
 
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