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GrGr

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What Fineman is saying is nothing new. The pathetic performance by the US mainstream media during the 2000 election campaign and the build up to invasion of Iraq proved the point once and for all. US mainstream media has lowered itself to the status of old Soviet style Pravda. The really important news is simply too politically sensitive to talk about openly in the US.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
So let me get this straight:

Anything from the right = lies
anything from the left = gospel

That about sum it up?

....because that's the impression i've gotten from just this thread alone.
Then your reading comprehension sucks.

I think Jon Stewart summed it up well in his 1-hour interview on C-SPAN back in October:
http://www.c-span.org/search/b...cQueryText=jon+stewart

How about we talk about the piece linked in the OP CsG

A waste of space, simply can be summed up that W made the old Media irrelavent by ignoring it.

Then with funding from other Rich Boy Club members such as Rubert Murdock made a whole new Media similar to the Information Minister of Iraq complete with powerful Brainwashing mixed with Religion.

Sad to have watched the weak minded people of America so easily turned into Sheeple by the Money/Religion machine.

Tammy and Jimmy Baker have to be proud that their style of public manipulation worked so well for the Republicans too.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
So let me get this straight:

Anything from the right = lies
anything from the left = gospel

That about sum it up?

....because that's the impression i've gotten from just this thread alone.
Then your reading comprehension sucks.

I think Jon Stewart summed it up well in his 1-hour interview on C-SPAN back in October:
http://www.c-span.org/search/b...cQueryText=jon+stewart
How about we talk about the piece linked in the OP

CsG
Uh, I am. Watch the video and you'll see.

Uh, no - you are linking to a comedian. Try addressing the piece written by the analyst.

CsG
I did in an earlier post. And Stewart's interview goes to the heart of the matter no matter who he is. I guess you haven't seen that interview. It's an excellent commentary on today's media.
 

Centinel

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Dec 21, 2004
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Once again I see comment after comment about the bias of the "money/religion machine", but no comments about the liberal bias that also exists.

Note, i'm not denying the bias from people like Rupert Murdoch or groups like Fox News, however I also would like you guys from the ideological left to at least also acknowledge the bias of such sources such as the NYT or CNN.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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CNN? You mean their right-wing bias now? If you don't see it, then you weren't paying attention during the election process.
 

Centinel

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Dec 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: Centinel
Once again I see comment after comment about the bias of the "money/religion machine", but no comments about the liberal bias that also exists.

Note, i'm not denying the bias from people like Rupert Murdoch or groups like Fox News, however I also would like you guys from the ideological left to at least also acknowledge the bias of such sources such as the NYT or CNN.

Once again, I will make the above point. Respond to the subject above and leave out the deflections.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
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Originally posted by: Centinel
Originally posted by: Centinel
Once again I see comment after comment about the bias of the "money/religion machine", but no comments about the liberal bias that also exists.

Note, i'm not denying the bias from people like Rupert Murdoch or groups like Fox News, however I also would like you guys from the ideological left to at least also acknowledge the bias of such sources such as the NYT or CNN.

Once again, I will make the above point. Respond to the subject above and leave out the deflections.

The deflections like you made in condemning the NY Times and CNN?
 

Centinel

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Dec 21, 2004
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Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.

 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Centinel
Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.
You're trying to paint CNN as a liberal bastion of the media. That is not the case. Watch Wolf Blitzer or Judy Woodruff sometime. You could see their disdain of Kerry on their faces.
 

piasabird

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Feb 6, 2002
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It is natural in America for the Rich Media to spread hatred of the Rich. We cant all be poor chicken farmers from Arkansas who were abandoned by our father.
 

Centinel

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Dec 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.
You're trying to paint CNN as a liberal bastion of the media. That is not the case. Watch Wolf Blitzer or Judy Woodruff sometime. You could see their disdain of Kerry on their faces.

Ya, that's because Kerry was a bigger idiot than bush is.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Centinel
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.
You're trying to paint CNN as a liberal bastion of the media. That is not the case. Watch Wolf Blitzer or Judy Woodruff sometime. You could see their disdain of Kerry on their faces.
Ya, that's because Kerry was a bigger idiot than bush is.
Nah. Kerry was just too thoughtful. He overanalyzed situations and came out sounding flat. He lacked charisma.
 

dmcowen674

No Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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www.alienbabeltech.com
Originally posted by: Centinel
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.
You're trying to paint CNN as a liberal bastion of the media. That is not the case. Watch Wolf Blitzer or Judy Woodruff sometime. You could see their disdain of Kerry on their faces.

Ya, that's because Kerry was a bigger idiot than bush is.

So that was good enough reason to stay with the same idiot for 8 straight years?
Why not spread the idiocity around a bit???

 

Centinel

Senior member
Dec 21, 2004
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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Centinel
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
Jesus Conjur....can you not read? or is your logic really that messed up?

I said Murdoch and Fox were biased. I also said you have to look at the other side and agree that the NYT and CNN are biased.

I am discussing the biases of mainstream media. How is that deflection?

Now either address my point, or kindly stay off the thread.
You're trying to paint CNN as a liberal bastion of the media. That is not the case. Watch Wolf Blitzer or Judy Woodruff sometime. You could see their disdain of Kerry on their faces.

Ya, that's because Kerry was a bigger idiot than bush is.

So that was good enough reason to stay with the same idiot for 8 straight years?
Why not spread the idiocity around a bit???

Because I like to know which direction my idiot is going to so I can plan accordingly, even though I didnt vote for either of the idiots in question.

 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Centinel
So let me get this straight:

Anything from the right = lies
anything from the left = gospel

That about sum it up?

....because that's the impression i've gotten from just this thread alone.
Then your reading comprehension sucks.

I think Jon Stewart summed it up well in his 1-hour interview on C-SPAN back in October:
http://www.c-span.org/search/b...cQueryText=jon+stewart
How about we talk about the piece linked in the OP

CsG
Uh, I am. Watch the video and you'll see.

Uh, no - you are linking to a comedian. Try addressing the piece written by the analyst.

CsG
I did in an earlier post. And Stewart's interview goes to the heart of the matter no matter who he is. I guess you haven't seen that interview. It's an excellent commentary on today's media.

No you didn't. You fluffed Perknose and then started spouting BS about the Media sacrificing the truth in their move to the right.
Ofcourse if they had "truth" they wouldn't have to move from the left now would they? Ofcourse not, and this piece(the topic) is yet another member of the media elite giving up on the charade and venting. It's quite obvious to those who pay attention that the media has been in bed with the left for a long time - maybe it's time for "the media" to actually try to become what they have claimed they were for so long - objective. For some reason I don't think this will happen any time too soon as they seem a bit to arrogant to admit they weren't objective.

As far as Stewart - I'll take his "commentary on today's media" and file it along side what other comedians say about our society/media/gov't.

CsG
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
Forum Director
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
As far as Stewart - I'll take his "commentary on today's media" and file it along side what other comedians say about our society/media/gov't.

CsG
Because that would be like electing an actor President!

 
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