The Media's Latest Depictions of the AR-15 - Is it fair?

[Svnla]

Mr "Unless you have new thing to say" isn't really in a position to judge the english skill of others.

A degree in constitution law is unnecessary to determine a forced conclusion given novel interpretations of english/law, per "prefatory clause", were concocted for this very purpose.

Unlike you, I do NOT say craps like " it's a lot easier to use basic english reading comprehension skills to figure out the 2nd amendment doesn't speak to an individual right in the first place" and "reading it instead of speaking out of ignorance" while what you wrote were full of errors in grammar. I don't have the "holier than you" attitude as you.


Do you get it yet? And what my original post has anything to do with 2A? This thread is about AR15s and related topics. Still unable to give a straight answer without more bullcraps and rants, eh? Goodness, pathetic newbie. Take your own advice and learn how to read.

 

[MongGrel]

So how many targets did you hit on auto vs semi?

The point is they are selective fire.

You would not go to the range and qualify with one on full auto.

Being 10-20 feet away in a crowded room and open up on a crowded dance floor is completely different.

 

[agent00f]

Your argument is based on complete and likely willful ignorance of history.

Alexander Hamilton - you probably don't know who he is so here's the first sentence of his Wikipedia article :

Here are some direct quotes from Alexander Hamilton :

Want to go on with some more drivel about how smart you are in re(mis)-interpreting the meaning of the Constitution?

Like the man said, this is not Facebook and you're a newbie.

Hamilton was against a bill of rights in the first place, per federalist 84. Take a few min to ponder that before quoting him again.

 

[MongGrel]

Hamilton was against a bill of rights in the first place, per federalist 84. Take a few min to ponder that before quoting him again.

You are getting off track on this one dude, the thread isn't about constitutional law.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So how many targets did you hit on auto vs semi?

Who cares how many targets you hit when using full auto? When you're providing cover fire with enemy combatants being able to make them duck so your fellow sailors, marines, or soldiers can move position is all that matters. If you're in a position where you're trying to be more precise a 3 round burst is the best option.

 

[agent00f]

Unlike you, I do NOT say craps like " it's a lot easier to use basic english reading comprehension skills to figure out the 2nd amendment doesn't speak to an individual right in the first place" and "reading it instead of speaking out of ignorance" while what you wrote were full of errors in grammar. I don't have the "holier than you" attitude as you.


Do you get it yet? And what my original post has anything to do with 2A? Still unable to give a straight answer without more bullcraps and rants, eh? Goodness, pathetic newbie. Take your own advice and learn how to read.

It's amusingly ironic to complain that moderately complex sentences represent bad english. "Learn how to read" indeed.

The point is they are selective fire.

You would not go to the range and qualify with one on full auto.

Being 10-20 feet away in a crowded room and open up on a crowded dance floor is completely different.

That last mass shooting demonstrates it makes little difference even if we're now going to war on crowded dance floors.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The point is they are selective fire.

You would not go to the range and qualify with one on full auto.

Being 10-20 feet away in a crowded room and open up on a crowded dance floor is completely different.

Luckily we were at least 80 yards away from those trying to snipe as we we made our way to the Marine barracks in Beirut after it was blown up. Some of us were lucky and only took rounds or shrapnel. One lost his life from a shot that hit just above his flak jacket and hit a major vein in his throat. Marine Cobra finally arrived and took them out.

 

[agent00f]

You are getting off track on this one dude, the thread isn't about constitutional law.

The reason I brought it up is that these topics tend to be about some weed in the forest. Successful mass shootings demonstrate minutia over magazines or fire modes is largely irrelevant.

Who cares how many targets you hit when using full auto? When you're providing cover fire with enemy combatants being able to make them duck so your fellow sailors, marines, or soldiers can move position is all that matters.

That's what I said.

If you're in a position where you're trying to be more precise a 3 round burst is the best option.

Using 3 times as much ammo is a bad idea when the goal is to kill as many as possible in a small area.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The reason I brought it up is that these topics tend to be about some weed in the forest. Successful mass shootings demonstrate minutia over magazines or fire modes is largely irrelevant.

That's what I said.

Using 3 times as much ammo is a bad idea when the goal is to kill as many as possible in a small area.

So, how much military service do you have in a combat zone?

As I stated in my first post I would not want to go into a war zone with a AR-15 and I stand by that.

You're all over the place trying to act like you know something as usual

 

[MongGrel]

Luckily we were at least 80 yards away from those trying to snipe as we we made our way to the Marine barracks in Beirut after it was blown up. Some of us were lucky and only took rounds or shrapnel. One lost his life from a shot that hit just above his flak jacket and hit a major vein in his throat. Marine Cobra finally arrived and took them out.

I remember that day, I was stationed at MCAS Kaneohe Bay at the time.

Semper Fi, everyone there were stunned.

 

[agent00f]

So, how much military service do you have in a combat zone?

As I stated in my first post I would not want to go into a war zone with a AR-15 and I stand by that.

You're all over the place trying to act like you know something as usual

This is most amusing. You end up repeating what I just said yet attempt to mouth off regardless. Why should anyone take somebody like that seriously?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I remember that day, I was stationed at MCAS Kaneohe Bay at the time.

Semper Fi, everyone there were stunned.

Even though I was not a Marine, it sickened me to see the carnage and bag up the deceased. Some which had been on the ship where I was stationed just months before they went ashore to begin their rotation in Beirut as "Peace Keepers".

All the branches of service may pick on each other like siblings but when push comes to shove we fight as a unit.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

This is most amusing. You end up repeating what I just said yet attempt to mouth off regardless. Why should anyone take somebody like that seriously?

I don't take you seriously, you're just another self proclaimed know it all of the Intarweb.

 

[MongGrel]

Even though I was not a Marine, it sickened me to see the carnage and bag up the deceased. Some which had been on the ship where I was stationed just months before they went ashore to begin their rotation in Beirut as "Peace Keepers".

All the branches of service may pick on each other like siblings but when push comes to shove we fight as a unit.

I had a feeling you may not have been, but Semper Fi anyway. I was not going to leave it off.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I had a feeling you may not have been, but Semper Fi anyway.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Semper Fi to you as well shipmate!!!

 

[ivwshane]

I don't take you seriously, you're just another self proclaimed know it all of the Intarweb.

He literally said the same thing you said.

 

[agent00f]

I don't take you seriously, you're just another self proclaimed know it all of the Intarweb.

Sure, but not taking someone seriously because they lack any compelling argument is different from claiming it out of spiteful ignorance.

The stems from fundamentally different interpretations of what goes on in a discussion forum. For some people discussion means coherent arguments wherein facts & reasoning matter. For others it's a way to recite their beliefs because mere repetition reinforces things in their mind. For example, you instinctively believe anyone with strong opinions opposing yours must be a blowhard, and no factual reality is going to change that.

 

[MongGrel]

Sure, but not taking someone seriously because they lack any compelling argument is different from claiming it out of spiteful ignorance.

The stems from fundamentally different interpretations of what goes on in a discussion forum. For some people discussion means coherent arguments wherein facts & reasoning matter. For others it's a way to recite their beliefs because mere repetition reinforces things in their mind. For example, you instinctively believe anyone with strong opinions opposing yours must be a blowhard, and no factual reality is going to change that.

Sometimes it is better to bow out of some discussions.

 

[Svnla]

It's amusingly ironic to complain that moderately complex sentences represent bad english. "Learn how to read" indeed.

Did you read what you wrote? Since when proper words such as "English", "Americans" become "english" and "americans" = moderate complex sentences? LOL.

Oh, since you seem clueless, here is from another poster.

You are getting off track on this one dude, the thread isn't about constitutional law.

And you are the one that whined and bitched ...(in your own words)

Rather than minutia about firearms which gun nuts could go on all day about, it's a lot easier to use basic english reading comprehension skills to figure out the 2nd amendment doesn't speak to an individual right in the first place. I know reading isn't a strong suit for many americans, but it's literally one sentence and relatively simple at that.

Learn how to read indeed. Keep digging deeper newbie.

 

[agent00f]

I'll have to admit what I wrote only makes sense in the context of a cohesive argument. To illustrate, if two people are bickering over whether AMD or Nvidia is better, if someone pointed out it makes no difference for running sprite games they'd likely both get angry.

 

[Artdeco]

Mongrel and Londo, thank you for your service.

 

[Svnla]

Let get back to the topic of the thread, which is about the AR15.

The NRA says about 5 million of AR15s are currently in public circulation and about 300K-500K AR15s are made each year for sale. I bet the number is higher now because most of the cheap AR15s are sold out online.

 

[Artdeco]

Let get back to the topic of the thread, which is about the AR15.

The NRA says about 5 million of AR15s are currently in public circulation. I bet the number is higher now because most of the cheap AR15s are sold out online.

I have no personal knowledge of the sale of stripped lowers ()

Seriously though, every time this happens, AR15 sales go through the roof, on the AR forums I frequent, a significant number of people are buying in anticipation of a ban, it's rumored the manufactures have been ramping up production in anticipation of a Hillary win, but this struck early, and the stockpiles are disappearing. I notice the prices are climbing too, particularly on magazines, which have dried up too.

Obama and Hillary are quite literally the best thing that's ever happened to gun sales.

 

[Ackmed]

It is idiotic to try and compare a AR15 to a landmine, tanks, or bazooka's.

 

[michal1980]

The AR15 is just the gun du jour if you really want to make a difference ban handguns

don't let facts get in the way of a liberal trying to ban guns.