The Metallica of this Generation.

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Kaido

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He was just pointing out Linkin Parks best songs in response to someone saying that they suck. Nobody is comparing them to Metallica in the sense of style. They're not trying to be Metallica in any way shape or form.

Linkin Park is good, and I respect them for bringing something new to the table in the same I that I respect System of a Down.
And as far as the discussion regarding the 'Metallica' of this generation goes; Linkin Park is probably as close as you get when all things are considered.

I'd say yeah, but their time has passed too. Not as relevant anymore. Foo Fighters is the first thing that came to mind for today's musicians.
 

Kaido

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You all are also missing a key point. In the old days people's access to music was much more limited. I was late to the metal era simply because where I lived there was no cable so no MTV etc. There was no internet either. I only had the radio. Sure you could wander into a CD shop and randomly purchase one based solely on the album art (which is what many people did) but it was really hit or miss. Back then they didn't even have a way for you to sample them.

These days, you don't need the radio...at all. Also, peoples opinions on genres is much more differentiated these days. There are many venues to find new music that simply weren't available before. While I still have a love for the old bands I grew up with, I notice that unlike many people in my age bracket, I've moved beyond that and still explore new music while they are stuck on only listening to 80's-90's music. There is still great music being made out there, you just can't sit and listen to the radio expecting to hear it. THOSE bands are the only ones that will be the "new metallica" because Metallica was made by radio - regardless of anything they did before the black album.

You know, that's a pretty good point. 99% of the time, I listen to a music streaming service (was MOG, but they're OOB now). I do listen to the radio from time to time to find new music; I used to be exclusively iPod/streaming but then I found that I wouldn't discovery nearly as much new music as I would listening to the radio occasionally.

And I used to listen to CD's over & over again, and even listen to the crappy songs on the album. My first two CD's were Lenny Kravitz & Sugar Ray (shush) and you kind of learn to appreciate the artists, even if there's only one or two songs you really like. Now, thanks to digital music, it's all like LOL NOPE, next song! Haha.
 

rh71

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Aug 28, 2001
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I tried a few suggestions here of the lesser known bands and they were all terrible. It was either cookie monster vocals (thanks that was funny) or the arrangement was stupidly random.

I think the only decent alternative I've come across in over 5 years is Iced Earth. I like Disturbed but they're not the same music.
 
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SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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I tried a few suggestions here of the lesser known bands and they were all terrible. It was either cookie monster vocals (thanks that was funny) or the arrangement was stupidly random.

I think the only decent alternative I've come across in over 5 years is Iced Earth. I like Disturbed but they're not the same music.

Check out Machine Head's Unto the Locust (latest album):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XKxSMlXZQ&list=ALGLx1orRGw4Usn-H6CEkSGPAOGDkSsoGw

I wish Rob Flynn utilized his voice more than just his usual bone crushing lower register, he's definitely a decent singer (like this Iron Maiden cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrz1yofoKg ) but they'll probably switch up the style for later albums. They're still in their head banging thrash heavy phase like early Metallica was. Will be exciting to see what they can do when he opens the vocal range up although at the same time I enjoy the head banging thrash and hope they don't sell out like Metallica/A7X. Of course Rob is 45 years old so not sure how many years he'll keep going before retiring.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Aug 10, 2001
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Yes, because Dutch radio drives the global market.

When sales of an artist (or even one of their records) suddenly goes up in a country the record company will try to boost that in other countries as well. If they buy more airtime people will get to know it more and sales are more likely to go up. It wasn't the only cause, but it helped them.
 

jruchko

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No love here for Five Finger Death Punch? Everyone I know who loves Metallica also love FFDP.
 

88keys

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Aug 24, 2012
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I think perhaps one of the biggest problem with Rock Music these days is that so many people have it dead set in their minds in regards to what Rock and Roll is supposed to be, and often scoff at newer upcoming musicians. This paired with the corporate producers that stifle creativity are making it more and more difficult for someone revolutionary to become popular.


It seems that every generation has gone through this. Led Zeppelin in the late 60s, Van Halen in the late 70s, and Pearl Jam and Nirvana in the early 90's.

These are all artists who were not received well initially, but they all played a part in reinventing Rock Music for a new generation. And now almost everyone has grown up listening to some form of Rock and Roll and thus a large percentage of them are older and hence not that open to change in the Rock scene. I also feel that country music will be going through something similar.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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I think perhaps one of the biggest problem with Rock Music these days is that so many people have it dead set in their minds in regards to what Rock and Roll is supposed to be, and often scoff at newer upcoming musicians. This paired with the corporate producers that stifle creativity are making it more and more difficult for someone revolutionary to become popular.


It seems that every generation has gone through this. Led Zeppelin in the late 60s, Van Halen in the late 70s, and Pearl Jam and Nirvana in the early 90's.

These are all artists who were not received well initially, but they all played a part in reinventing Rock Music for a new generation. And now almost everyone has grown up listening to some form of Rock and Roll and thus a large percentage of them are older and hence not that open to change in the Rock scene. I also feel that country music will be going through something similar.

I think a big part of it is that those bands all changed how music was perceived. If you look at metal, the NWOBH bands that stick out were the first (and the best). In the hair metal days, Van Halen was the band that 'started it all' so to speak and in the 90's Nirvana was the band that made the grunge sound (even if they hated it and wanted to be punk).

Metallica forged their own sound and genre out of what didn't exist, similar to those previously mentioned. There hasn't really been another in mainstream music; metal continued to evolve, but hard rock hadn't changed much since Epic by Faith No More really did a nu metal song.

Really, that hasn't been a Metallica of this generation, and likely won't be.
 

Timorous

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Guess they were never very popular then

You are a funny guy.

Seriously though Blade Venom is correct in that it is Iron Maiden, always has been really since the 80's with the exception of the mid to late 90's where Metallica were really big and Maiden were going through a lull with the Blaze era. Since Bruce came back though Maiden have been amazing with great live performances and great albums.
 

akahoovy

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Check out Machine Head's Unto the Locust (latest album):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XKxSMlXZQ&list=ALGLx1orRGw4Usn-H6CEkSGPAOGDkSsoGw

I wish Rob Flynn utilized his voice more than just his usual bone crushing lower register, he's definitely a decent singer (like this Iron Maiden cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrz1yofoKg ) but they'll probably switch up the style for later albums. They're still in their head banging thrash heavy phase like early Metallica was. Will be exciting to see what they can do when he opens the vocal range up although at the same time I enjoy the head banging thrash and hope they don't sell out like Metallica/A7X. Of course Rob is 45 years old so not sure how many years he'll keep going before retiring.

Seems like a lot of lead singers are like this. My favorite band is System of a Down for the wide variety of music they composed and the variation of Serj's voice, along with the other guy.

As far as Iron Maiden covers, I dig Cradle of Filth's Hallowed be thy Name.
 

darkewaffle

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Oct 7, 2005
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I don't think rock/metal has the mainstream appeal it once did for any of them to really get that big - though I would agree Linkin Park was a pretty big deal for a few years and did transcend genres to an extent. In terms of semi-ubiquity "bands" (ignoring genre for the most part)... The Killers maybe? In sheer terms of numbers I think Evanescence and Nickelback are up there but The Killers at least have some critical appeal.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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My opinion, the two best metal bands out there today are Alter Bridge and Volbeat. If you don't know them you definitely should check them out.

Volbeat sounds like a band you'd hear at a jazz club on their off days.

About as metal as Perry Como.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Seems like a lot of lead singers are like this. My favorite band is System of a Down for the wide variety of music they composed and the variation of Serj's voice, along with the other guy.

As far as Iron Maiden covers, I dig Cradle of Filth's Hallowed be thy Name.

Yeah I enjoyed CoF's cover of Hallowed due to the keyboards that added a new dimension, but the lead singer doesn't really do it for me.

System of a Down is a favorite as well, but they need to put out new material FFS. Serj seems to have lost his focus and I doubt they'll ever capture the inspiration of days past.
 

SP33Demon

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Jun 22, 2001
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Volbeat sounds like a band you'd hear at a jazz club on their off days.

About as metal as Perry Como.

They're definitely hard rock and sometimes metal. They wouldn't be at the Revolver Golden Gods awards every year if they weren't as least hard rock.
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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What generation?

The nu metal bands are "last gen" in my opinion. (Linkin Park, Korn, Slipknot, etc)
They are all 3 up there in terms of commercial success, popularity, discography, etc.
Again, they are last generation in my opinion.

I have no idea what metal kids are listening to now a days.
Opeth?
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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What generation?

The nu metal bands are "last gen" in my opinion. (Linkin Park, Korn, Slipknot, etc)
They are all 3 up there in terms of commercial success, popularity, discography, etc.
Again, they are last generation in my opinion.

I have no idea what metal kids are listening to now a days.
Opeth?

I'd say Opeth is last gen as well, but I have no idea what kids are listening to these days and I've despised nu metal for a long time. I think Screamo is now the "in" thing and the garbage they call "hardcore", which has nothing to do with my beloved hardcore punk or even cross over stuff like C.O.C.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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They're definitely hard rock and sometimes metal. They wouldn't be at the Revolver Golden Gods awards every year if they weren't as least hard rock.

They simply aren't a metal band. They are fusion, they are metal-like at times and then all rockabilly at others.

Not saying they aren't talented, just not a Metallica.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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skrillex is the metallica of our generation.

first person to put out hard as fuck music that's not easily understood by most people, yet still somehow mainstream.
 
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