Originally posted by: peacefulmoi
I am interested in the mobile CG processors.
A post on another forum indicated that the desktop motherboards may not support Cool 'n Quiet on the mobile CG processors. He has a 3200+ DTR on an MSI K8T-FSR. Here's the quote:
"So far I cannot get the so-called Cool & Quiet to function. I have it enabled in the bios/power settings to Minimal control and manually installed the windows AMD64 driver. But no difference in speed.
I also tried Bios 1.6 and 1.71b and the latest version of the Core center which I believe is 1.65 or something like that. I did notice that the Windows Update did not show the AMD64 driver update as it does for Bartons and such so I wonder if these newer "DTR CG" Cpu's are in fact different by some way as to be incompatible thus far with current Cool & Quiet technology."
Many thanks for your quick response, Bar.
Originally posted by: l3ored
the 3200 is too expensive, so i'm looking at the 3000. it comes in a dtr and a 1.4v mobile, which should i get? the 1.4 is like 12 bucks cheaper
Originally posted by: Bar81
Originally posted by: peacefulmoi
I am interested in the mobile CG processors.
A post on another forum indicated that the desktop motherboards may not support Cool 'n Quiet on the mobile CG processors. He has a 3200+ DTR on an MSI K8T-FSR. Here's the quote:
"So far I cannot get the so-called Cool & Quiet to function. I have it enabled in the bios/power settings to Minimal control and manually installed the windows AMD64 driver. But no difference in speed.
I also tried Bios 1.6 and 1.71b and the latest version of the Core center which I believe is 1.65 or something like that. I did notice that the Windows Update did not show the AMD64 driver update as it does for Bartons and such so I wonder if these newer "DTR CG" Cpu's are in fact different by some way as to be incompatible thus far with current Cool & Quiet technology."
Many thanks for your quick response, Bar.
To my knowledge this combination is not possible. Cool n Quiet is a function solely ingrained into the desktop Athlon 64 CPUs. The mobile Athlon 64s to my knowledge use a variation of the PowerNow! AMD mobile technology to throttle CPU speed. Since the boards you want to use are desktop boards I wouldn't expect any board to ever support the PowerNow! technology of the mobile Athlon 64 CPUs.
On the point of Cool n Quiet, it's an overhyped function. I used and was decidedly unimpressed. Remember that this throttling does not come without a price. Personally, when I pay $200+ for a CPU I expect it to operate at top speed whenever I use any application, but Cool n Quiet does not allow that; rather it arbitrarily decides how much CPU power you need and throttles the CPU accordingly. While you may only "need" an 800mhz CPU for office applications, there is a difference in performance between .8Ghz and 2.0 Ghz for example, when opening an application. You lose the instant snap feeling. Granted it's not a huge difference but it matters to some people, including myself. Basically, don't worry about it, you're not missing anything.
Originally posted by: l3ored
sounds like dtrs oc better then, unless you think you got a lesser chip
Originally posted by: Bar81
To my knowledge this combination is not possible. Cool n Quiet is a function solely ingrained into the desktop Athlon 64 CPUs. The mobile Athlon 64s to my knowledge use a variation of the PowerNow! AMD mobile technology to throttle CPU speed. Since the boards you want to use are desktop boards I wouldn't expect any board to ever support the PowerNow! technology of the mobile Athlon 64 CPUs.
On the point of Cool n Quiet, it's an overhyped function. I used and was decidedly unimpressed. Remember that this throttling does not come without a price. Personally, when I pay $200+ for a CPU I expect it to operate at top speed whenever I use any application, but Cool n Quiet does not allow that; rather it arbitrarily decides how much CPU power you need and throttles the CPU accordingly. While you may only "need" an 800mhz CPU for office applications, there is a difference in performance between .8Ghz and 2.0 Ghz for example, when opening an application. You lose the instant snap feeling. Granted it's not a huge difference but it matters to some people, including myself. Basically, don't worry about it, you're not missing anything.