The most irritating network problem I've ever had *Now FIXED!!!!!*

[Lazy8s]

ok I am seriously about to trow my comp out my second story window and then kill those fxckers at microsoft and here's why.

My bro, dad and I have a home network set-up. It used to be downstairs and life was good. Then we moved it upstairs and tried to make it wireless. We have a Linksys router and a voice-over-ip phone line. All of us are using the Asus P4C800 mobo. My dada and I have the regular P4C800 with the integrated 3COM NIC. My bro has the P4C800-E Deluxe. Anyways, we all install the exact same linksys wireless cards with the same drivers. We connect a Linksys wireless access point to the router and all try to connect. Well, my dad connects just fine, my bro is too far away and for some reason I get "Excellent" signal strength but no IP. So we call Linksys, spend 3hrs. on the phone and still nothing so we scrap the idea of wireless. We all uninstall our cards and hook cat5 back up. My dad and bro get on fine but my stupid arse comp STILL won't get an IP. I fought with it last night for hours and nothing works. Here's the deal of what I can and cannot do:
I can ping 127.0.0.1
I can ping my Automatic Private Address
I can't ping anything else

What I tried already:
I uninstalled and reinstalled my 3COM driver then restarted
I did a netsh int ip reset <filename> then restarted
I uninstalled my card, did a reset then restarted
I made sure all my TCP/IP settings were the exact same as my dad's comp

I hardcoded myself the IP of 192.168.1.110 then I hard coded the subnet mask, the default gateway and the preferred DNS to be exactly like my dad and brothers.
This allowed my to (finally) ping the router, myself, and my dad and brothers comps. but I still couldn't use the internet or anything and the router didn't pick me up.

I know it's not the router that's messed up cause we didn't change anything and my dad and bro can get on, plus it's set up to allow 244 IPs to be given out so that's not an isssue.

I don't think it's the built-in NIC because I CAN ping stuff.

It has got to be something in windows. I am sure reinstalling windows would fix it but that's just rediculous. I am really at a loss here. I called tech support and they want to charge me $35 to try and solve the problem. I'll do it but ONLY as a last resort. Please, any help would be much appreciated.

 

[darkmagex]

Do you have another NIC you could throw in to try? At the very least it would rule out a problem with the NIC your using.

 

[dmcowen674]

May be related to the Host file that contains the 127.0.0.1, see if it's been corrupted.

Try LSP Fix.

What do you get when you go to CMD and type IPconfig /all ?

Can you see files and directoris on the other computers?

Did you try a different browser other than IE?

 

[beatmix01]

typical linksys problem i have seen.


turn off your cable modem or dsl modem.
power off your linksys
power on your cable/dsl modem
power on your linksys.

reboot the computers. you should be golden.

I have seen this all too often.

 

[Lazy8s]

I might be able to find another nic to try but the one I'm using is a part of the MOBO so I would hope the mobo would warn me if it dies.

"May be related to the Host file that contains the 127.0.0.1, see if it's been corrupted.

Try LSP Fix.

What do you get when you go to CMD and type IPconfig /all ?

Can you see files and directoris on the other computers?

Did you try a different browser other than IE?"


I'm not at home right now but:
1) I dunno what/where that is or hot to tell if it's bad or how to fix it
2) I'll try in an hour or so when I get home
3) I'll try to post that when I get home
4) It shows I'm not on the network, no one can see me and I can't see them
5) nope, but AIM doesn't run, nor any online games or anything







Sorry I don't have all the info, I'll post as much as I can when I get home which should be in about an hour.

 

[kfranc9]

the problem is that your computer cannot find its DHCP server.

To respond to dmcowen674:
1) Its not your host file.
2) Your ipconfig /all output would be somewhat helpful to see.
3) If he can't ping the computers, he can't see them
4) IE does not matter 1 bit.

I think you should do what beatmix said...it has definitely solved my problems a few times. Also, make sure you put the setting back to "Obtain an IP address automatically".

 

[Lazy8s]

yeah I have it all set to automatic. what beat said has solved my problems before, shoulda tried it first lol. I'll do that as soon as I get home.

 

[Lazy8s]

well, I tired:
1)what beat said and it didn't work
2)installing another (working for sure) NIC card and it had the same prob

So...I took some screenshots, If you need screenies of anything else to help just say. I dunno what to do but I'll reinstall windows b4 I pay microsoft more money.

http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/LANStatus.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/networkconnections.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/status_Details.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/ipconfigall.jpg

EDIT:

I just used x-cleaner to:
Scan for adaware/spyware
-it removed weather bug
Clear Internet Explorer (All)
Delete Internet Explorer -Cookies
Delete Temporary Internet Files (Cache)
Verify/fix network "Layered Service Provider" settings
And rebooted and it still won't give me an IP address

 

[stash]

I don't see anything wrong with Windows here, and reinstalling probably won't fix anything. The IP stack is working fine, you just are not getting an IP from a DHCP server.

Is the router configured with MAC filtering? Maybe your MAC isn't being allowed.

And what is that networking bridge doing there?

 

[Lazy8s]

http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/macfilter1.PNG
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/macfilter2.PNG

No filtering at all. In fact short of changing the range of IP addresses it will give out so that it gives out 255 it's all factory settings on the router.

 

[stash]

What about the bridge on your machine?

 

[kfranc9]

Yea, this is getting a little crazy.

Make sure you have ICF turned off.
Also, try plugging your wire into your dad's port and restarting your PC.

 

[TechnoPro]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/ipconfigall.jpg

What's with the heiroglyphics when you try to ping? I've never seen that before.

 

[JW310]

Originally posted by: Lazy8s

http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/LANStatus.jpg

Hmm... something definitely doesn't look right there... 154,618,822,705 packets sent out in only 5 minutes? Almost sounds like there's a virus on the system that's trying to run a DoS attack. There's no way your connection should be sending out 30 billion packets/minute.

JW

 

[kfranc9]

good observation, i agree. my status was for 7 hours and was significantly less. Maybe a reinstall and a good antivirus wont hurt.

(also, what i said to do earlier)

 

[Lazy8s]

what's ICF? how do I check it?



my TCP/IF filtering on my system is off so that's not doing it.


I'll try a virus scan and see what I can do. I hadn't noticed that either.

I dunno why there's the bridge but when I run the home networking wizard to configure me to go out on a hub it creates the bridge. I tried deleting it and it doesn't help. My brother's comp has a bridge as well. It's bridging togeather my two firewire ports I think but I have no idea. I don't know why it's there but my bro's comp has it and he's running fine.

 

[timernstes]

Try reinstalling your TCP/IP stack.

 

[Lazy8s]

Originally posted by: timernstes
Try reinstalling your TCP/IP stack.

sure, how do I do that?

heh, right now I'll try about anything.


here's the text from when I did this: "I did a netsh int ip reset <filename> then restarted"
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/sometimes_182/Network/netreset.txt

 

[Lazy8s]

ummm...I'm going to go to get a virus scan really quick.....I kinda forgot my renewal ran out in January so um....yeah we'll see if this is all my fault in a little....oops.....

 

[duke2106]

Delete the bridge. I've seen it on computers where they didn't need a bridge, removed it, and they were golden. Try removing the network bridge and see what happens.

 

[dmcowen674]

Also subnet is 255.255.0.0

Should be 255.255.255.0

 

[timernstes]

Actually, before reinstalling TCP/IP, do an ipconfig /renew on your NIC with it set to automatically obtain an IP. Do you get an error?

 

[Lazy8s]

hooooooooooooooooooly crap!!! I'm on the net!!!!!

ok, so I don't know for sure exactly what fixed it but I did everything you guys said and here's what happened.

I ran my McAfee virus scan (even though it's 6mo. out of date) and it caught and deleted olehelp.exe (I dunno what that was) so I rebooted my comp. Well, it kept hanging at the ASUS mobo screen so I got REALLY P.O.ed and figured b4 I really did throw it out the window (I hit it once and figured it was time to cool off so I had my g/f over and watched some movies) I would turn it off and let it sit. Well, I just came back upstairs and it booted up. It still didn't work but I bought Norton 2004 Firewall and Virus Scan Pro and got ready to install it. So I uninstalled McAfee virus scan and firewall. When it booted up MSN connected and I almost peed on myself!! Well now I'm having a beer to celebrate and I'm going to install the new software.

Thank you guys SOO much!!!


BTW for all of you thinking "moron it was your firewall the whole time" actually I had disabled the firewall and virus scan first thing figuring it was probably a problem there but it wasn't. Who knows for sure exactly but I'm leaning towards a viris that I had. Anyways, thank you so very much. AT has definately got the best group around.

 

[dmcowen674]

Glad you're up and running.

We try.

Only thing everybody did was give you the confidence, which is the most important part of the troubleshooting. :thumbsup:

 

[kfranc9]

I think it was the presence of your girl that got it working .

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Also subnet is 255.255.0.0

Should be 255.255.255.0

And dmcowen, notice his computer was using Microsoft's APIPA (Automatic Private IP Addressing). The 169.254.x.x address is a class B address, therefore its default subnet mask is 255.255.0.0.