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amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
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I wish I could agree with you but Flash will on occasion completely crash my system, BSOD then re-boot, yea, a 4830 is and older card but I think it should be able to handle You Tube. Yes, I have the latest Catalyst drivers and my Flash is up to date but it still happens, brings back unfond memories of Windows 98..

Yea but opening an Explorer window will crash an Nvidia driver. Hell, even moving the mouse a pixel is too much for an Nvidia card to handle sometimes. :\
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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Do not get.

Before your time, young one. Believe it or not, large swaths of the internet once went to war against each other over whether a plane placed on a treadmill could ever take off, and whether .999... = 1. The lion bit you're probably more familiar with. The previous two were, for a while, explicitly banned from discussion here. There are other less explicitly banned topics such as what mods whisper about in private, or savages, but I can't remember them all. At one point an AT wiki full of such lore was maintained but then it died, came back briefly, and died again for good measure.
 
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moonbogg

Lifer
Jan 8, 2011
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Before your time, young one. Believe it or not, large swaths of the internet once went to war against each other over whether a plane placed on a treadmill could ever take off, and whether .999... = 1. The lion bit you're probably more familiar with. The previous two were, for a while, explicitly banned from discussion here. There are other less explicitly banned topics such as what mods whisper about in private, or savages, but I can't remember them all. At one point an AT wiki full of such lore was maintained but then it died, came back briefly, and died again for good measure.

I like it. I also have the audacity to present the answer to both questions.

.999 forever does not equal 1

A plane taking off on a treadmill depends on the treadmill speed. If the plane can overtake that speed, at any rate even if slowly, the plane will take off at some point.
 

rsbennett00

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Jul 13, 2014
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A plane taking off on a treadmill depends on the treadmill speed. If the plane can overtake that speed, at any rate even if slowly, the plane will take off at some point.

The treadmill speed has no bearing on takeoff. Airplanes are not wheel driven.
 

SlitheryDee

Lifer
Feb 2, 2005
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I like it. I also have the audacity to present the answer to both questions.

.999 forever does not equal 1

A plane taking off on a treadmill depends on the treadmill speed. If the plane can overtake that speed, at any rate even if slowly, the plane will take off at some point.

Let's do this.

The general consensus seems to be that .9999~ does indeed equal 1.

The specifics of the treadmill plane scenario is that the treadmill is turning at exactly the same speed that the plane is moving forward.

Some people said that it was actually the plane's propeller or jet engine that was propelling it forward, so it didn't matter how fast the treadmill was spinning. Of course that caused some rumination about whether the treadmill could spin up to infinite speeds and eventually tear the landing gear off the plane. To which the first group said that the treadmill had to be a non-infinite treadmill for the scenario to make sense. To which the second group replied that the treadmill violates the initial parameters of the scenario because it is incapable of matching the speed of the airplane. To which the first group replied that if group two gets an infinite treadmill then group one gets frictionless, indestructible landing gear. 300 pages later both sides agreed that the other should fuck off and die and the matter was settled.
 

Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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The treadmill speed has no bearing on takeoff. Airplanes are not wheel driven.

Yes, with the one caveat that if the treadmill tried to compensate for the plane's change in speed instantaneously the treadmill belt would quickly accelerate to near lightspeed, the landing gear wheel bearings would fail violently, and the plane would fall onto and be ground into oblivion against the treadmill that's now functioning like a hyper-velocity belt-sander.

Details here:http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/09/09/the-goddamn-airplane-on-the-goddamn-treadmill/
 
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