The muslim mass immigration in Europe

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CPA

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So what are you suggesting? A genocide of 2 billion people called Muslims?

3.5 billion including Chinese?

5 billion including Chinese and Indians?

7 billion including everyone besides Americans since immigrants come from everywhere besides America?

What is your point?

Sovereignty and borders. There's a reason why we have countries and the world's not "one world". Not everyone wants to live under the same rules.

On a side note, not wanting a religion to swarm and take over the predominant religion of your country is not racism. That's part of the problem, we've skewed what it means to be racist.
 

CPA

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Besides his blanket hate sounds like some guys who told my Indian friend who was born in the USA to go back to Mexico.

Or the people who attack Sikhs across this country believing they are Muslims.

from: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...crimes-against-sikhs-since-911_n_1751841.html

History of Hate: Crimes Against Sikhs Since 9/11



So really who's more dangerous in our generation? Muslims or Ignorant Americans who can't differentiate between Sikhs and Muslims

I hope you're not painting all Americans by using some individual incidents. I know a store owner who wore the American flag turban. Great guy and have done business with him many times. Never once did I worry he was a muslim.

BTW, to answer your question: around the world, it's muslims.
 

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I hope you're not painting all Americans by using some individual incidents. I know a store owner who wore the American flag turban. Great guy and have done business with him many times. Never once did I worry he was a muslim.

BTW, to answer your question: around the world, it's muslims.

Going by sheer numbers of people killed this and the past few centuries, one could argue the biggest threat to world peace are from Europe, USA and Russia. There's nothing peaceful about Europe, US or Russia, they've got a history of colonization, mass genocide, attempted genocide, slavery, using atomic weapons and so on. The majority of ME's problems are a direct result of Western (white) intervention and meddling in their affairs. Those poor Syrians escaping from those consequences are basically running into the hands of those that caused their misery, I feel sorry for them. Look at all the hate directed towards Blacks and Mexicans in the US, the vast majority of whom aren't Muslims but are demonized by many right wing Christian whites (and even the liberals who feign caring about them but live in segregated neighborhoods far away from them).
 
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Indus

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I hope you're not painting all Americans by using some individual incidents. I know a store owner who wore the American flag turban. Great guy and have done business with him many times. Never once did I worry he was a muslim.

BTW, to answer your question: around the world, it's muslims.

Agree with you there..

But I don't like idiots like Trump fanning the hate that every Muslim is bad and then the fascist crowd just starts thinking anyone not white is Muslim.

Hello the Boston Bombers were White Muslims.

Hello Mohammed Ali is a black Muslim and he didn't kill any Americans.
 
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TheSlamma

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On a side note, not wanting a religion to swarm and take over the predominant religion of your country is not racism. That's part of the problem, we've skewed what it means to be racist.
From where I stand, I don't like the spread of ANY religion as I think they are vehicles for intolerance, but I can at least share my atheist thoughts in a christian country without being threatened to be beheaded.

So while I hate them all there are ones that are worse than others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6BoYIzhMVU

I don't care what hocus pocus you want to follow, as long as you keep it in your own houses, don't bring it to our government and don't kill to enforce it. Once you walk out your front door you need to INTEGRATE into a 21st century society. The problem is people seem to really want to "share" their make believe beliefs.
 

SP33Demon

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Muslims are ~6% of the population of Europe out of a total population of 740M.

But they're takin' over! They'll destroy the culture of all of Europe! It's all part of the dastardly Benghazi plot!

And they're reproducing at double the rate of everyone else. You can do math, right?
In the under-fives age group there are nearly twice as many people identified as Muslim as in the general population, census data reveals.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ely-worshipping-Christians.html#ixzz3rOcaqLqf

Pop quiz: if they sustain a rate of doubling all other people in Europe, what % will they be in 25 years? 50? And guess whose welfare is going to pay for all of them? This isn't even including the immigrants and converts. lol@socialism

One can only speculate as to what percentage 26 million would be of the total population in 2051. With about ten million British people currently over the age of 65 (Muslims make up only 1∙2 percent of over 65s) and average British birth rates below replacement level, the number of Muslims in Britain by the year 2051 could be anything from forty to fifty percent.

It’s important to point out that the population projections made here are not mathematical certainties. They are reasoned arguments based on causal facts (a time series) that are reasonably expected to continue into the future. It’s precisely on this point that objections are often made to the above calculations.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5632/uk_muslim_population_of_26_million_by_2051

So in 35 years they could be a majority.
 
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SP33Demon

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From where I stand, I don't like the spread of ANY religion as I think they are vehicles for intolerance, but I can at least share my atheist thoughts in a christian country without being threatened to be beheaded.

So while I hate them all there are ones that are worse than others
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6BoYIzhMVU

I don't care what hocus pocus you want to follow, as long as you keep it in your own houses, don't bring it to our government and don't kill to enforce it. Once you walk out your front door you need to INTEGRATE into a 21st century society. The problem is people seem to really want to "share" their make believe beliefs.

Then atheists in Europe should be very scared. Islam is a theocracy hiding behind the disguise of "religion".
 

bshole

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I agree.. based on the fear and hate mongering, just read the stuff in bold.

If he had said we need to be more vigilant in how we vet refuge applications, he would have had a point but you see he's just trumpeting hate. Can't discuss views with someone who's already well on his way to becoming a fascist because of his hate.

If he had any common sense he would realize, we have a US Constitution that cannot be simply changed without 2/3rd of both houses of congress and 75% of the states ratifying it. So Muslims cannot just take over unless they have 75% or more of the population of the United States.

Good christ, have you not paid attention to what is happening in Europe? Muslims have NOT integrated and are actively fighting for global jihad and Isam.

There is not a single shred of objective evidence that indicates that the Muslim faith has any intention nor desire to adapt to modernity. The one Muslim country in the entire world that has in the past tepidly embraced secular values is falling back into the black hole of Sharia law right before our eyes.

Take a look at this research on the OVERWHELMING percentage of muslims who support Sharia law. Support of Sharia law is support for the dark ages and active hostility to learning, science and technology.

This should scare the ever living shit out of you if these people are immigrating to your country. Their worldview includes the destruction of western secularism via violent jihad and terrorism.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
 
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Svnla

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Do I dispute that batboy existed? I'm not sure, evidence is kinda shaky.

Nice try to play stupid to weasel out your sheer stupidity.

Again, do you dispute the stories (that I posted in in post #22 and #25, disregard the sources) about how Muslim men treat women in UK (non Muslim and Muslim)? Were the stories true? Yes or No.

Again, do you see this thread title has anything to do with dry counties in US or other religious such as FLDS? Yes or No.

Put up by simply say Yes or No or STFU, bitch.
 
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Indus

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Good christ, have you not paid attention to what is happening in Europe? Muslims have NOT integrated and are actively fighting for global jihad and Isam.

There is not a single shred of objective evidence that indicates that the Muslim faith has any intention nor desire to adapt to modernity. The one Muslim country in the entire world that has in the past tepidly embraced secular values is falling back into the black hole of Sharia law right before our eyes.

Take a look at this research on the OVERWHELMING percentage of muslims who support Sharia law. Support of Sharia law is support for the dark ages and active hostility to learning, science and technology.

This should scare the ever living shit out of you if these people are immigrating to your country. Their worldview includes the destruction of western secularism via violent jihad and terrorism.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

The contrast to your argument is India.. the biggest democracy in the world and it isn't even included in the article. Why so conveniently erased I wonder? Because people in India are not scared so much of Muslims.

Yes they realize they have a Muslim problem as terrorists from Pakistan came and carried out the Mumbai attacks and countless others and are trying to take over Kashmir. Yet there is enough common sense in Indians that they elected a Muslim President who is world renowned scientist and omg nothing bad happened.

However I do agree with you on Islam being a problem in countries which are so dominantly islamic and people immigrate out and can't adapt to the new customs. Example is Seattle gay bar bombing by a muslim who couldn't accept it.

So rather than trying to exterminate our own population, we should be actively vetting people who are getting visas or refugee asylum. There is a Sikh gurudwara not far from where I live.. On 4 incidents people have come there with an M16 and shot up the place because they believed it was a Muslim place. Anyone wanna stand up for Truth, Justice and the American way? Thought not.. most everyone so conveniently want to stand up for fascism.
 

TheSlamma

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Good christ, have you not paid attention to what is happening in Europe? Muslims have NOT integrated and are actively fighting for global jihad and Isam.

There is not a single shred of objective evidence that indicates that the Muslim faith has any intention nor desire to adapt to modernity. The one Muslim country in the entire world that has in the past tepidly embraced secular values is falling back into the black hole of Sharia law right before our eyes.

Take a look at this research on the OVERWHELMING percentage of muslims who support Sharia law. Support of Sharia law is support for the dark ages and active hostility to learning, science and technology.

This should scare the ever living shit out of you if these people are immigrating to your country. Their worldview includes the destruction of western secularism via violent jihad and terrorism.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
They are so entrenched in party line hate that they must do the exact opposite of the conservative party no matter what, even if it means being complete hypocrites.

How on earth can you support the first amendment, fight for women's equality and think that Muslims respect these values?? and the worst offender of all, Gay rights.. If a single one of these libtards would read the quran they would see that the only place for gays in Sharia law is dead, period end of story next fucking case. The Quran makes even the old testament look like a Dr Seuss book.

The most annoying thing for me is I want to see equal pay for women, I support gay marriage, I agree on many issues with liberals, but I'm not going to support the groups that want to see those things stomped out, Those being the GOP AND Muslims, the latter being the more vigilant about it.

As you stated they do not integrate, http://www.thelocal.de/20150902/prosecutors-target-leader-of-sharia-police Oh look at that, they are white too, so it's not racist.
 

TheSlamma

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So rather than trying to exterminate our own population, we should be actively vetting people who are getting visas or refugee asylum. There is a Sikh gurudwara not far from where I live.. On 4 incidents people have come there with an M16 and shot up the place because they believed it was a Muslim place. Anyone wanna stand up for Truth, Justice and the American way? Thought not.. most everyone so conveniently want to stand up for fascism.
So is that a Christian problem, a Muslim problem or a religion problem?
 

Indus

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So why not just make a constitutional amendment that the religion of Islam is illegal in the United States? You only need 38 states to ratify it.
 

TheSlamma

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It's a fanning the hate problem.. them vs us.. them being anyone not Fox News viewers.
So the guy who did the Seattle bar is exempt? okay cool just wanted to check where your bias was laid out.

This is why I can't be bias on things like this, you guys are totally cool with people pushing their primitive laws on others and killing as long as they are in the minority, but Fox news and Christianity, those need to be held accountable.

Sorry, but both need to be held accountable.
 
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Indus

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This is why I can't be bias on things like this, you guys are totally cool with people pushing their primitive laws on others and killing as long as they are in the minority, but Fox news and Christianity, those need to be held accountable.

Sorry, but both need to be held accountable.

Really? both need to be held accountable?

Why isn't that guy in jail who dragged a protester demanding equality at Trump Rally?

Why aren't all the people who killed/ assaulted Sikhs in jail?

See a pattern here? Assaults against minorities are conveniently swept under the rug..
 

TheSlamma

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Really? both need to be held accountable?

Why isn't that guy in jail who dragged a protester demanding equality at Trump Rally?

Why aren't all the people who killed/ assaulted Sikhs in jail?

See a pattern here? Assaults against minorities are conveniently swept under the rug..
Yes, the system is fucked up, it's called Tyranny of the Majority.

So what is the appropriate answer? Swing it to the exact opposite and let the sick actions of the minorities be accepted and only punish the current majority? Or do you want to join me in saying both are wrong?
 

Jhhnn

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And they're reproducing at double the rate of everyone else. You can do math, right?


Pop quiz: if they sustain a rate of doubling all other people in Europe, what % will they be in 25 years? 50? And guess whose welfare is going to pay for all of them? This isn't even including the immigrants and converts. lol@socialism

What makes you think that birthrate will be sustained? All the immigrant groups in the US basically had high birthrates when they first came here.

The rest? An attempt to overwhelm us with bullshit. Following Brandolini's law, it'll take an effort an order of magnitude greater to counter it than to dump the original steamer.

The current wave of Islamic immigrants entering Europe aren't going there to get on welfare but rather to flee the war in their home countries of Syria & Iraq.

Given that we started the shit that caused them to flee maybe we should take a million or so ourselves.
 

TheGardener

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The light is going on for Europeans. More and more they understand that this is not immigration, but an invasion. Sweden, who has been the most generous of nations, is approaching collapse. They have instituted border controls contrary to EU law. Europe itself is being overwhelmed. Could be the beginning of the end of democratic socialism, as it falls flat under the weight of its generous welfare system. Amazing that it may happen so quickly.

Given that we started the shit that caused them to flee maybe we should take a million or so ourselves.

Coming soon to the US? Yes, I can see that. Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Keep in mind that my link is from PBS, the bastion of liberalism. Not some conservative blog.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/feeling-burden-of-migrant-crisis-sweden-imposes-border-controls/
 
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TheSlamma

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Given that we started the shit that caused them to flee maybe we should take a million or so ourselves.
It is strange that every time we get involved it creates a new group, al qaeda, Taliban and now ISIS.

I wonder what all the common denominators are for this, all of them though not just the 1 or 2 obvious things.
 

Nebor

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What makes you think that birthrate will be sustained? All the immigrant groups in the US basically had high birthrates when they first came here.

The rest? An attempt to overwhelm us with bullshit. Following Brandolini's law, it'll take an effort an order of magnitude greater to counter it than to dump the original steamer.

The current wave of Islamic immigrants entering Europe aren't going there to get on welfare but rather to flee the war in their home countries of Syria & Iraq.

Given that we started the shit that caused them to flee maybe we should take a million or so ourselves.

There's no way to tell where the immigrants are actually coming from. Many are coming from Afghanistan, and Pakistan. The reality is that people are seeing an economic incentive to move to Europe and few barriers to keep them out. The demographics of the immigration influx alone (mostly young men) dispel the "refugee" myth.

If Europe wants to destroy themselves in the name of multiculturalism, then let them. We shouldn't accept more than 4,892 Syrian refugees with documents proving them actual Syrians.
 
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