The nature to be conned

sportage

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Why is it so many people possess this desire to be conned?
To fall for empty promises?
So willingly place all their trust in something or someone that a small child would never entrust?
Why is it people so agreeably set themselves up to be taken, duped, cheated, conned, with blindly investing trust having absolutely no evidence of worthiness for their trust?
Why do people trust a used car salesman on word alone? Never having known the salesman before, yet investing all their trust simply by only words?
Why would someone invest all they have into property or land, sight unseen, believing only in what they were told by some salesman, a complete stranger, having no sound reasoning for trusting in?
Why would anyone blindly invest all their trust?
Well, people have done this every day since the beginning of mankind.
It is human nature.
And so enter stage right, THE CON ARTIST.

How could so many people fall for the con of Donald Trump?
So easily investing all trust in this complete stranger named Donald Trump?
And fact is, Donald Trump is a stranger. Unproven of worthiness and of trust.
Especially blind trust now given by so many. From millions.
Still, people willingly and blindly entrust in Donald Trump.
Believing in every word out of this Donald Trump's mouth, having absolutely no credibility.
Why would so many stand there and cheer on Donald Trump knowing less about him than they know about some stranger knocking on there front door selling brooms? Or selling property? Or selling carpet cleaning?
What is it within people where they are so agreeably and willingly taken advantage of?
Why do so many fall for the slick talking con artist, over and over again, never once questioning the con?
What exactly is this human nature flaw within so many people where they would believe anything and everything they are told, believe every empty promise as if it were proven fact, and from a total stranger?
In this instance, a total stranger named Donald Trump.

Why is it that so many people would place all their trust in someone only to be later embarrassed and humiliated when realizing the con played upon them?
The con they so willingly fall for without once ever questioning?
Then, the failure to later ask of themselves how could this have ever happen?
Why is it a Donald Trump can enchant millions of Americans simply because he claims and promises nothing of substance?
Why would so many people fall for this con?
The con artist, selling only by word of mouth, their only true talent being the skill of the con.
The con artist has nothing to sell. Only are they selling the con itself.
Trust me! Believe me! This will be the best ever! I will be the best ever!
I have proven, yet no actual proof ever offered.
Simply because they say they are proven, they are believed to have proven.
That is the art of the con artist. The art of the con.

Con artist of every kind and type have flourished since the beginning of mankind.
Selling the promise of nothing for the price of much.
They offer nothing of substance to their prey, but ask of everything in return.
Why do so many people seek and desire to be led like sheep to the slaughter of the con artist?
Why would anyone place all their trust in a total stranger before first entrusting in themselves?
What it is within human nature where the con artists of history such as Donald Trump have flourish and thrived?
What is this flaw of human nature given to so many, and the failure to overcome?
Forever trusting in the con artist, one after another, seemly a never ending cycle.
And what is that pungent scent the con artists such as Donald Trump can detect, pick up on, that scent of knowing where their deception can succeed and the con flourish?
Just as the strong will prey on the weak, the art of the kill is the talent of the con artist.

It is quite possible Donald Trump is the greatest, the very best con artist to have ever come along.
The greatest and very best con artist that history has ever known.
 
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pcgeek11

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Why is it so many people possess this desire to be conned?
To fall for empty promises?
So willingly place all their trust in something or someone that a small child would never entrust?

Maybe you should ask a Hillary supporter.

I am of the opinion that your wall of text applies to Both Hillary and The Donald.
 
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Moonbeam

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Guess why?

One person sees a savior and another a con. What is he difference?
 

FerrelGeek

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Yep. But poor sportage actually believes that Hillary loves him and will take care of him.

Maybe you should ask a Hillary supporter.

I am of the opinion that your wall of text applies to Both Hillary and The Donald.
 

retrospooty

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Sadly, alot of people are really not very bright when it comes to things like that. You see it all the time, even with people that are fairly smart scholastically, they just let people manipulate them and never seem to realize they are being toyed with. /shrugs. All I can say is dont be that guy.
 

DrunkenSano

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OP believes that Trump is the only con in the race, he has been so badly conned by Hillary that he doesn't see that she's also a con as well. That's what politics is these days, politicians basically con the people into voting for them. That's why we are in the mess we are today.
 

ivwshane

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OP believes that Trump is the only con in the race, he has been so badly conned by Hillary that he doesn't see that she's also a con as well. That's what politics is these days, politicians basically con the people into voting for them. That's why we are in the mess we are today.

Trump isn't a con because he's gotten people to vote for him! He's literally a con man because he's bilked people. He has literally sold people, on multiple occasions, a bill of goods of which he failed to deliver on. Whether it's universities, condos, casinos, or contractors, he's screwed a lot of people and the courts have decided against him many times. Hell, he even sues people like a typical con man.

You can call Hillary a liar but you can't call her a con man (woman).
 
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Tormac

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Trump is offering a large segment of the people what they want.

This segment feel ignored by both the Democratic Party, and the “establishment” of the Republican Party. Trump generally offers them the things that they want. Why would they not support him?

They know for sure that Hillary will not support them, and in the past the established Republican Party has never supported them. Who else can they turn to?
 

Jaskalas

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I want the "America First" policy, I just don't want a egomaniac attached to it.
 

Cozarkian

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Because of the golden rule. People want to be trusted by others so they extend trust to others.

And also because people are happier imagining they live in a nice world.
 

retrospooty

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Trump is offering a large segment of the people what they want. This segment feel ignored by both the Democratic Party, and the “establishment” of the Republican Party. Trump generally offers them the things that they want. Why would they not support him?

What exactly is Trump offering those people?
 

dank69

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Yep. But poor sportage actually believes that Hillary loves him and will take care of him.
That's called a straw man. A powerful tool used to maintain your belief that no matter how bad conservatives fuck up, liberals will always be just as bad if not worse.
 

dank69

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Trump is offering a large segment of the people what they want.

This segment feel ignored by both the Democratic Party, and the “establishment” of the Republican Party. Trump generally offers them the things that they want. Why would they not support him?

They know for sure that Hillary will not support them, and in the past the established Republican Party has never supported them. Who else can they turn to?
They could try looking at things objectively and realize that the Democrats are for the most part trying to help them and that they tend to back policies that actually work no matter how much the GOP claims they don't. I suppose that is way to much to ask of everyone though.
 

Cozarkian

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What exactly is Trump offering those people?

This is obviously no more than educated guess, but I believe they see a way to give the middle finger to politicians as a whole in hopes it will make politicians in the future more responsive to their wishes as opposed to the wishes of the powerful special interests.
 
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flexy

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This is extremely interesting from a psychology perspective.

Typical example: The lady who gets the letter from "Prince Ngimbe from Nigeria", AND IS TOLD IT IS A SCAM...but can't stop herself to send money.

People want to be scammed since any scam usually lures them with some positive outcome, say, the letter that tells you "YOU WON 100 MILLION" although you never participated in a lottery.

There are now two alternatives: A) It is a scam B) It COULD be true

The difference is that people *want to* prefer B) because it is much more attractive than A), so they develop an emotional bias to believe in B even if it defies any common sense.

A billionaire tells people that he, and he alone, WILL FIX PEOPLE'S LIVES, and the prospect is so tempting that common sense is tossed out of the window.

See example here, some guy thinking "Trump is offering the people what they want".
Wait a minute. The typical T supporter is poor or lower middle class. T is against higher wages, he wants to cut healthcare and education. He wants to give the super-rich more tax breaks. He is not "offering the people what they want", he is TELLING them he does (like in the Nigerian scam letter) and ironically what he is indeed offering is make the poor/middle-class even worse off than before.

However, I see that with T supporters, ANY, and I mean any remaining bit of common sense is lost, you can see this how some people make up the most ridiculous excuses for this guy even if THE OBVIOUS is thrown in their face. Yesterday I saw some guy who actually denied that Trump made a (smaller) mistake in a speech where he mistook 9/11 with 7/11. The guy claimed that Trump did refer to the 7th fire brigade in 11th street, something like that, I shit you not. Obviously we're dealing with mental defects here...and once you realize this you realize it's pointless to even argue with those people.
 

Vic

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Maybe you should ask a Hillary supporter.

I am of the opinion that your wall of text applies to Both Hillary and The Donald.

I am of the opinion that false equivalence and other forms of "he/she does it too" are how children argue.
 

Vic

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Trump is offering a large segment of the people what they want.

This segment feel ignored by both the Democratic Party, and the “establishment” of the Republican Party. Trump generally offers them the things that they want. Why would they not support him?

They know for sure that Hillary will not support them, and in the past the established Republican Party has never supported them. Who else can they turn to?

The problem is that what they want is to use the power of the government to fuck over everyone who isn't them.
 

rstove02

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A good lie is easier to believe than the truth. (Unofficial Rule of Acquisition from the Ferengi Commerce Authority)
 

FerrelGeek

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Nice try, sparky. It's no straw man at all. The power brokers of both parties don't give a rat's fetid backside about you, me, sportage, esky, ivw, rudder, spidey, TH, thrash, senseamp, boomer, jhhnn, Vic, Fanatical, etc. They don't. PERIOD! If you think they do, you've been conned.

That's called a straw man. A powerful tool used to maintain your belief that no matter how bad conservatives fuck up, liberals will always be just as bad if not worse.
 

Vic

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Nice try, sparky. It's no straw man at all. The power brokers of both parties don't give a rat's fetid backside about you, me, sportage, esky, ivw, rudder, spidey, TH, thrash, senseamp, boomer, jhhnn, Vic, Fanatical, etc. They don't. PERIOD! If you think they do, you've been conned.

All the more reason not to vote for the candidate making the biggest promises.
 

dank69

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Nice try, sparky. It's no straw man at all. The power brokers of both parties don't give a rat's fetid backside about you, me, sportage, esky, ivw, rudder, spidey, TH, thrash, senseamp, boomer, jhhnn, Vic, Fanatical, etc. They don't. PERIOD! If you think they do, you've been conned.
The straw man is saying that we think Hillary loves us and will take care of us. We don't think that. Do you even know what a straw man is, *sparky*?
 

flexy

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A good lie is easier to believe than the truth.

Nice - simple and sums it up quite well.

And a "good lie", scam etc. will always use emotions because emotions don't require thinking, they "just work".

It gets better. Once someone falls for a scam, say the person who is convinced that Prince Ngimbe REALLY wants to give her $1M for transferring his money out of the country, or the person who convinces you that Obama is not really eligible to be pres since he was born in Kenya etc..etc.. it becomes difficult to admit/realize that you fell for a scam/lie since PRIDE is standing in the way. No one is easily admitting that they were wrong and possible believed for a long time, maybe their entire life, in some tale.
 
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