News The new 2023 Prius is Hot?

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The 4th gen prius already handles pretty well, so the added power and possibly optional AWD would be nice. Sadly, it doesn't look like they solved the issue of the bottom scraping on almost everything, though fixing that might result in other problems.
 
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Hans Gruber

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It's a 4 door car. I am looking for the door handles on the rear doors. Either they are pop out handles or the driver must have to pop the doors open.
 

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If Toyota prices the Prius correctly. It may cause some problems. 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. The Plugin prime is all electric for about 40 miles.
 

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If Toyota prices the Prius correctly. It may cause some problems. 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. The Plugin prime is all electric for about 40 miles.

Even the non-plugin goes 0-60 in 7.2 seconds, which in previous generation was more like 10 seconds. It's not a race car, but it's no longer a slug.

The Prime PHEV will likely be in VERY short supply, just like the Rav4 Prime.
 

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The 4th gen prius already handles pretty well, so the added power and possibly optional AWD would be nice. Sadly, it doesn't look like they solved the issue of the bottom scraping on almost everything, though fixing that might result in other problems.
It is a low car, drive it accordingly. I've had lowered cars for years, no problem.

Anyway, it is actually very compelling now for folks who aren't purely interested in economy. Kudos Toyota!
 

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The 4th gen prius already handles pretty well, so the added power and possibly optional AWD would be nice. Sadly, it doesn't look like they solved the issue of the bottom scraping on almost everything, though fixing that might result in other problems.

Yeah. Don't take your Prius off roading...

Not sure what the problem is. I drove a Miata for years which I'm sure is as low, if not lower than a Prius, and never dragged the bottom on anything, and I didn't have to take any special precautions, other than not going off road.
 

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Yeah. Don't take your Prius off roading...

Not sure what the problem is. I drove a Miata for years which I'm sure is as low, if not lower than a Prius, and never dragged the bottom on anything, and I didn't have to take any special precautions, other than not going off road.

I think it has to do with how the portion in front of the front wheels is relatively long and relatively flat as well as the soft suspension. For me, the front end design results in nice downward field of view, but poor upward fov.

My brothers miata has no issues with scraping either.
 
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My first impression of this was, whoa! And then I was more shocked by them upping power that much (but probably makes sense as that's what the hybrid drivetrain in the Camry/Corolla is offering). But then, since they were offering near Prius level of MPG kinda made the Prius not make as much sense, so I feel like making the Prius even more like them doesn't make sense.

I do have one concern with the design, and that is that it appears the cargo area might be smaller. It looks like that area of the car is going to be shorter. Might be wrong though and might just be because of the shape, but it looks like the seating has been shifted back plus the rear overhang shortened.

My hot take though is that, honestly, I feel like this is what the Corolla should have been. And then they should have made the GR Corolla/Yaris a Celica or something. And made the Prius be more true to what a Prius is.

For the Prius I kinda feel like they should have either kept the efficiency focus (and pushed for like 60s MPG, or get there by focusing more on electric only - making it more like the Chevy Volt) or pushed it to be more practical but still compact, like making it more of a wagon or small minivan esque, as I think its not just the efficiency but also the overall practicality that has made the Prius so popular and a more wagon/small minivan (think Mazda 5) would have made it interesting while still being true to being a Prius. They could have done a 3 and 5 door versions (so something more "city car" like, think maybe a modern iQ which would replace the Prius C, then the 5 door be more like the small minivan - which I think the Prius V should have been instead of just a Prius with a taller back end for a bit more cargo space).

I'll have to look into it, but I think all of these are plug-in hybrids? But if you've seen their plug-in (I saw a pic of a weird plastic piece that gets slotted in by rolling down one of windows on the rear passenger doors and then you run the cable through that plastic piece), it looks just straight up stupid and a hassle. I'm guessing its because the plugs (saw something about there being 2 plugs for like using power tools and bigger stuff) are inside the car and so it was easier to do them bi-directional, but why not one internal and one external? But if they did increase the electric only range to nearish 50, that's pretty enticing on its own. But it also means, this new Prius is probably gonna not be cheap.

Which this also makes me think, with the success of the Ford Maverick, I'm hoping Toyota is maybe looking at doing something similar. Which the Japanese small trucks are still pretty popular so I feel like it would probably go over better than how Ford did it, although Toyota does have to do it reasonably well. I think they should be able to outdo the Maverick's MPG, especially the highway. If they could make a little 2 door, 3 seat compact pickup that gets 50mpg everywhere, I think it'd do very well and would make for very practical daily drivers for a lot of people. And pickups I think have a lot more potential for add-ons, which helps dealers boost profitability so I think it would be something to offer dealerships to ease the pain of transition to electrification (where they're going to probably see a pretty substantial hit to the income from their service departments).
 
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The new Prius is an inch wider than the Gen4. The current Prius is 54MPG city and 50MPG highway vs. 57MPG for the 2023 model. A 50 or 60 mile range for the plug-in Prime would have been ideal. The 2023 Prime will give 40 miles of electric power. The other feature they should add as standard equipment is all wheel drive.
 

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i had a gen 4 prius and now a tesla model y, if i didn't already have the tesla i'd totally consider the gen 5.
 
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Looks nice. Would have considered it if Priuses weren't in such short supply around me and if I hadn't picked up an Elantra Hybrid instead. Nice to have a vehicle that gets 50+ mpg.
 

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A far cry from the old NWH11 Prius that I bought in 2001. I remember paying in full for the car, then the dealer gave me a loaner Jeep to drive for 3 months while they shipped my car. I did get the instruction manual for it to look at, while I waited. I remember several occasions where people in limos or exotic cars would stop and come up to me, to ask about the car.
 

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Unfortunately the Prius has seen a massive long-term decline in sales, and even this greatest iteration ever isn't going to arrest that.
 

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Unfortunately the Prius has seen a massive long-term decline in sales, and even this greatest iteration ever isn't going to arrest that.

I expect it will definitely reverse the losses to some extent, It probably won't return to peak numbers but there is no reason it should keep sliding with a product that is this much better and getting essentially universal praise.
 

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I saw it at the L.A. Auto Show, this past weekend. Not as nice as the picture, but certainly much nicer than previous iterations. Had this been out when I traded in my 2nd Prius, I would have purchased it instead of the Mazda 6.
 

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Why buy the Prius over a Corolla Hybird, tho... some people just want weird looking cars?
 
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Why buy the Prius over a Corolla Hybird, tho... some people just want weird looking cars?
If I recall, the Corolla Hybrid only came in the lowest Corolla trim, and you had to get an add-on package or two for stuff like blind spot monitoring. The Prius probably gives you a few more options based on trim alone, and the semi-hatched trunk could probably help when you want to move some odd-shaped items, if that's something you fancy. Plus, if you're looking to maximize fuel economy without plugs, the Prius is hard to beat.
 

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Why buy the Prius over a Corolla Hybird, tho... some people just want weird looking cars?

If talking the previous generation, you have a point.

But IMO, the new Prius looks better than the Corolla Hybrid, and it's faster, and it gets better gas mileage.
 

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It is a low car, drive it accordingly. I've had lowered cars for years, no problem.

Except where it snows more than a little, or snows a little but the snow plows come along and put a wall at the bottom of your driveway or into your street parking space, or if you need to barrel over a herd of zombies.
 
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