The new F150

Kaido

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Nice, 8" screen with 360-degree camera view.

Curve control sounds pretty nice: "automatically provides more aggressive four-wheel braking when the truck is going into a corner too fast".
 

WackyDan

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I see a lot of nice features that I would probably enjoy in my 2012 F-150 if it had them. Not about to trade up either, but the main interest for me is in the weight savings and how much more mpg that equates to.

Seems like Ford was also listening to owners... the backup lights on the current f-150's are fucking useless.

When they hit the dealer, I'll look at them, but again not sure I'd spring for an upgrade. With RAM adding a diesel and GM maybe finally getting their head out of their ass, the next few years for trucks are going to be very interesting.
 

halik

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is it a foot bigger in every dimension, compared to the previous generation?
 

PricklyPete

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Technically the truck looks to be an awesome upgrade, but ugh... I do not like the new looks. Way too much like the current Tundra.
 

Kaido

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even if it were, it's 700lbs lighter!!!

That's what I'm curious about - way lighter aluminum construction, active grill for aerodynamics, start/stop technology, etc. The 2014 Nissan Versa gets 40 MPG and my 2014 Kia Soul gets 30 MPG (about the same dimensions), but my Soul takes a pretty big hit partially I think because it's 300 pounds heavier. So I'm really interested to see what the MPG is on the 2015 F-150 models...I was looking into an FX4 before as our family ride (currently a Civic, which is awesome on MPG but on the smallish side) and this has so many tech/safety/possibly MPG goodies that it's pretty compelling...
 

WackyDan

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Technically the truck looks to be an awesome upgrade, but ugh... I do not like the new looks. Way too much like the current Tundra.

The original concept truck looked better, but I think Ford felt the styling was too aggressive for all customers.
 

Kaido

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The original concept truck looked better, but I think Ford felt the styling was too aggressive for all customers.

I kind of wonder how that decision was made. "Do you think it looks too manly?" "Yeah, but it's a truck!" "Tone it down." :biggrin:
 

WackyDan

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That's what I'm curious about - way lighter aluminum construction, active grill for aerodynamics, start/stop technology, etc. The 2014 Nissan Versa gets 40 MPG and my 2014 Kia Soul gets 30 MPG (about the same dimensions), but my Soul takes a pretty big hit partially I think because it's 300 pounds heavier. So I'm really interested to see what the MPG is on the 2015 F-150 models...I was looking into an FX4 before as our family ride (currently a Civic, which is awesome on MPG but on the smallish side) and this has so many tech/safety/possibly MPG goodies that it's pretty compelling...

I've gotten as high as 22 MPG with the 5.0 in my 2012 Super Crew. Depending on the alignment of the sun, moon, and stars, I think I get 15 to 16 around town.

So I don't think dropping 700 pounds is going to be earth shattering for MPG, but I would suspect that maybe it would get 25 highway and 17-18 around town.

We'll see, but that still isn't a bad increase %wise when you consider the size of the vehicle.
 

Kaido

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I've gotten as high as 22 MPG with the 5.0 in my 2012 Super Crew. Depending on the alignment of the sun, moon, and stars, I think I get 15 to 16 around town.

So I don't think dropping 700 pounds is going to be earth shattering for MPG, but I would suspect that maybe it would get 25 highway and 17-18 around town.

We'll see, but that still isn't a bad increase %wise when you consider the size of the vehicle.

Yeah, I'd be really curious if they could increase to something as high as 30 MPG. Also curious if they'll be doing a hybrid sooner than 2020. I just offloaded my old Volvo (best was 20 MPG) and jumped to a new Kia (30 MPG), so I'd be curious to see if they can beat 25 MPG or better.

It's a pretty compelling vehicle overall. The looks are bland, but the features are pretty dang awesome. That's a lot of car!
 

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My wife's company is anodizing the new frame rails for it.

Also, remember when pick up trucks were bare bones working class vehicles? Now they are luxury mobiles.
 

mmntech

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New Ford Ranger 4x4 with 2.0L Ecoboost and 3.0L Duratorq options. That is all.

The F-150s are nice trucks but they're white hat trucks. Too nice for the jobsite, too big for everyday driving. I really do wish they'd bring back small pickups. Wouldn't mind one. Good for hauling stuff around in when you don't need an SUV or fullsize pickup.
 

Greenman

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I hate that trucks have become SUV's. I need a work truck, not a damn BMW with two acres of sheet metal on the sides.
 

Kaido

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My wife's company is anodizing the new frame rails for it.

Also, remember when pick up trucks were bare bones working class vehicles? Now they are luxury mobiles.

Seriously. My buddy got a new Dodge RAM. It was nicer inside than my old Volvo S80 :biggrin:
 

Kaido

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New Ford Ranger 4x4 with 2.0L Ecoboost and 3.0L Duratorq options. That is all.

The F-150s are nice trucks but they're white hat trucks. Too nice for the jobsite, too big for everyday driving. I really do wish they'd bring back small pickups. Wouldn't mind one. Good for hauling stuff around in when you don't need an SUV or fullsize pickup.

I agree, you can't just buy a small truck anymore. That's actually a big reason I got a Kia Soul - it's basically half a wagon, or like my old small truck with a tonneau cover. I can flip the back seats down and chuck stuff in, but not be stuck with a full-sized F150 or RAM truck the rest of the time. It's worked out pretty well; if I need something big, I either mooch off a friend or rent a Home Depot truck.
 

Demo24

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I'm damn impressed by the 700lbs of weight savings! Also quite curious about the 2.7l ecoboost, guessing that's a small 6 with lots of boost?

Even though I'm not much of a truck guy, I do like this!
 

railer

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Looks kind of Tundra-ish to me. It's not terrible, but the Atlas concept was way better.
Nothing on the transmissions? Where's the rumored 8 or 10 speed auto?

It's got some nifty features...I'll wait and see how much extra they charge for all those gizmos.
 

Kaido

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Looks kind of Tundra-ish to me. It's not terrible, but the Atlas concept was way better.
Nothing on the transmissions? Where's the rumored 8 or 10 speed auto?

It's got some nifty features...I'll wait and see how much extra they charge for all those gizmos.

http://www.edmunds.com/auto-shows/detroit/2014/2014-detroit-auto-show-2015-ford-f-150-faq.html

What Engines and Transmissions Are Available?

Last year's four-engine lineup has been shuffled and generally downsized because of the significant reduction in the 2015 F-150's overall weight. All of them are backed by the same sturdy six-speed automatic transmission from last year's truck.

* The entry-level 3.7-liter V6 is being downsized to 3.5 liters. Power and torque have not yet been announced.
* An all-new 2.7-liter EcoBoost V6 slots in above. Power and torque figures have not been revealed, but output is said to "exceed that of other mid-level truck V8 engines." This twin-turbo engine will also have an automatic start-stop system to save even more fuel when the truck is stationary. The system will automatically disengage in 4x4 mode or when a trailer is in tow, and there will also be an off switch. This engine is destined to be a volume seller with excellent fuel economy.
* The popular 5.0-liter V8 carries over, and there's every possibility that last year's rated output of 360 horsepower and 380 lb-ft of torque will remain unchanged. This engine will likely be cheaper than the new 2.7-liter Ecoboost V6 and should tow more, but it's destined to burn more fuel, too.
* Last year's successful 3.5-liter Ecoboost V6 now stands alone at the top of the heap. It made 360 horsepower and 420 lb-ft of torque last year, and we expect those figures to carry over into 2015. Even so, performance should improve with less truck to haul around.
* No mention is being made of last year's 6.2-liter V8, which at this point appears to have been discontinued. It may or may not resurface when the 2015 Raptor is introduced at a later date.
* Ford has not released any fuel economy figures except to say that all powertrains will perform better than last year.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Looks kind of Tundra-ish to me. It's not terrible, but the Atlas concept was way better.

I just spent some time comparing the two side by side. I agree but can't put my finger on a specific design element that makes the f-150 appear different than the Atlas concept.

Atlas





F-150




Less bulky looking? Narrower side profile? Less windshield rake? Shorter hood? All the above?
 

phreaqe

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i am very curious about the fuel economy improvements.

I also think its kind of ugly. I have always through the f150 was the best looking truck, but i don't think i like this version.

Also, i wish they had that console layout in the fusion. We opted to not get my ford touch in our 2013 fusion because i wanted physical buttons for hvac stuff and the f150 console looks like a perfect compromise. i get physical buttons for the important things but still get the nice touchscreen for the rest.
 

Kaido

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i am very curious about the fuel economy improvements.

I also think its kind of ugly. I have always through the f150 was the best looking truck, but i don't think i like this version.

Also, i wish they had that console layout in the fusion. We opted to not get my ford touch in our 2013 fusion because i wanted physical buttons for hvac stuff and the f150 console looks like a perfect compromise. i get physical buttons for the important things but still get the nice touchscreen for the rest.

Yeah exactly. I don't want to have to look at a screen to change my HVAC or the volume. The rest is fine. In my '14 Kia Soul, the HVAC & volume are physical, but you can access the rest through physical buttons, menus, or steering wheel controls, so you can keep your eyes on the road.
 

Tweak155

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I just spent some time comparing the two side by side. I agree but can't put my finger on a specific design element that makes the f-150 appear different than the Atlas concept.

Atlas





F-150




Less bulky looking? Narrower side profile? Less windshield rake? Shorter hood? All the above?

Atlas looks a bit bigger all around.
 

Demo24

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Yeah exactly. I don't want to have to look at a screen to change my HVAC or the volume. The rest is fine. In my '14 Kia Soul, the HVAC & volume are physical, but you can access the rest through physical buttons, menus, or steering wheel controls, so you can keep your eyes on the road.

If you look at the interior photos, the radio and hvac controls are still physical. I guess they learned from the Explorer that people aren't hugely fond of the touch buttons for those items.
 
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