The new F150

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phreaqe

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If you look at the interior photos, the radio and hvac controls are still physical. I guess they learned from the Explorer that people aren't hugely fond of the touch buttons for those items.

i just wish they had learned earlier because as a geek i wanted to love my ford touch when we test drove the fusion but i just couldn't.
 

RagingBITCH

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If you look at the interior photos, the radio and hvac controls are still physical. I guess they learned from the Explorer that people aren't hugely fond of the touch buttons for those items.

The Explorer (and EDGE) still has physical HVAC and radio controls. They're "spread out" under the screen, but they all exist. I use those on my wife's Edge Sport more than the touchscreen.

Note: the F150 does have more physical buttons for the various functions for radio/HVAC, but that's probably more due to it being a truck. It does look better than the EDGE/Explorer sans-touchscreen, seen here: http://www.proclipusa.com/images/image.aspx/media/images/products/dashmounts/854719-4.jpg-440x330
 

ElFenix

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I kind of wonder how that decision was made. "Do you think it looks too manly?" "Yeah, but it's a truck!" "Tone it down." :biggrin:

lets add fake-bolt-on plastic fender flares!


(i hate those things, so cheap looking)
 

senseamp

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I think aluminum body is a good thing, but having just dropped and dinged my aluminum bike I started wondering what impact would an aluminum shell have on repairability of the body in case of a crash or ding, and by extension, insurance rates.
 

ElFenix

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I think aluminum body is a good thing, but having just dropped and dinged my aluminum bike I started wondering what impact would an aluminum shell have on repairability of the body in case of a crash or ding, and by extension, insurance rates.

probably going to be high at first but as more places get the equipment to work it should come down in price. even at first it should still be cheaper than the all aluminum jags and audis because the frame is steel (though if you bend a truck frame isn't it almost automatically totalled?)
 

LTC8K6

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It just won't sound right to say that your big brawny truck has a 2.7 liter engine... :biggrin:
 

LTC8K6

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Haven't they had aluminum hoods forever? I know the Ranger had an aluminum hood ages ago.
 

WackyDan

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I just spent some time comparing the two side by side. I agree but can't put my finger on a specific design element that makes the f-150 appear different than the Atlas concept.

Atlas





F-150




Less bulky looking? Narrower side profile? Less windshield rake? Shorter hood? All the above?

Bumper is a bit different... But I correct my original thought that they were different enough... The greenhouse on the production model is taller without that notch as well... It throws off the scale of the nose when looking at the entire truck.
 

rcpratt

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Haven't they had aluminum hoods forever? I know the Ranger had an aluminum hood ages ago.
Yes, F150s have had aluminum hoods for a while now. Forget the exact dates.

And while it might sound wrong to say your truck has a 2.7L engine, 30 mpg sounds oh so right.
 

ElFenix

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Bumper is a bit different... But I correct my original thought that they were different enough... The greenhouse on the production model is taller without that notch as well... It throws off the scale of the nose when looking at the entire truck.

i think you're seeing the distortion of a wide angle lens used to photograph the atlas more than anything else. both seem to have the same proportion of greenhouse to side slab. the wide angle emphasizes whatever is nearest to it so the nose of the atlas seems huge. same reason why wide angle lenses aren't used in portrait photography. don't want huge noses on tiny models.
 

Greenman

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I'm damn impressed by the 700lbs of weight savings! Also quite curious about the 2.7l ecoboost, guessing that's a small 6 with lots of boost?

Even though I'm not much of a truck guy, I do like this!

I read somewhere it's running 6 pounds of boost. Seems very low for the torque and horsepower numbers it's putting out.
 
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The looks are, eh its a modern truck, they all kinda look similar to me (other than Ram which is the most distinctive), looks like a truck not horrible but not spectacular either. The Atlus definitely has a wider look to it, looks lower and wider.

Sounds really interesting though. Glad to see Ford taking good risks with their prized products (Mustang and this) and not resting on laurels. This could be really good.

Interior is meh. I personally would prefer something more simplified and less trying to look like a luxury car. Use good materials so it feels luxury/solid but less flashy.
 

Kaido

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It just won't sound right to say that your big brawny truck has a 2.7 liter engine... :biggrin:

But it has "Eco" boost, that's a manly word for turbo, right? :biggrin:
 

Tweak155

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i think you're seeing the distortion of a wide angle lens used to photograph the atlas more than anything else. both seem to have the same proportion of greenhouse to side slab. the wide angle emphasizes whatever is nearest to it so the nose of the atlas seems huge. same reason why wide angle lenses aren't used in portrait photography. don't want huge noses on tiny models.

If you've ever seen the Atlas in person, it IS huge! Bigger than an F150. The interior is very well lit too with a futuristic look.
 

LTC8K6

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Hey, if they can make 30 MPG, I think I may have found our new family "van" :thumbsup:

The Ram with the 3.6L and 8 speed is EPA rated at 25mpg highway.

I don't expect the 2.7L F-150 to be much better.

The Ram 3.0L Diesel has been tested by magazines at 28mpg highway. Ram says it expects an EPA rating of 27.
 

halik

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My wife's company is anodizing the new frame rails for it.

Also, remember when pick up trucks were bare bones working class vehicles? Now they are luxury mobiles.

No, just no. You still have acres of hard plastic on the interior and leaf springs in the back. Heated seats and navigation do not a luxury car make...
 

LTC8K6

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Dodge/Ram did away with leaf springs on the regular duty pickups a while ago, iirc.
 

DaTT

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No, just no. You still have acres of hard plastic on the interior and leaf springs in the back. Heated seats and navigation do not a luxury car make...

More so than a cloth bench seat and manual windows. Have you seen the interior of a Chevy Escalade...errrrr....Avalanche?
 

phucheneh

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That's an F150? Not an F650? Maybe they accidentally dropped a number and that's the brand new 'F1150.'

I mean, cripes, fellas...I think it was the F150 that ushered in the era of bloated 1/2 ton trucks. My memory could be off, but I remember years of trucks that were similar in size to the 80 and 90's Silverado/C1500. And to be fair (god I'm been complimenting GM way too much lately), I've never noticed much of a size difference in the Chevies even now...maybe the front ends got a little more chunky to keep up with the styling trends...little stuff...but overall, still a manageably-sized truck.

Then Ford comes along in the...early to mid 2000's, I think? And BLAM, holy crap that truck is big. And goodbye low-slung 2WD models; every variant is now a house on wheels. Hey engineers, don't forget that those seats need to fit at least a 65" waistline. I dunno what the official payload rating for the bed is, but the seats have gotta be a 1/4 ton. I'm 6'3 and over 200lbs, and I slide around in them like a child.

Anyhow...this just seems like another massive bump up. They must've seen Toyota and Nissan nipping at their heels in the 'morbidly obese transport' segment. No offense to anyone that drives something like this for legit work reasons...but I've seen a lot of the 'I drive this for no other reason than I can't fit in any equally-priced cars' phenomena. I've listened to people bitch about dropping off trucks and being given free full-size loaners because 'who could fit in this?!' Ugh...this is why other countries laugh at us.
 
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