The New Macbook Pro 13" + 15" only Sata 1.5g?

[cabbitbunny]

Hi guys...I got the new macbook pro 13", and under osx hardware it is only reporting
SATA 1.5g....my old macbook 13" i'm sure it is Sata 3g...

Can anyone who got the new macbook pro confirm this?

 

[Hacp]

It is confirmed in the All things Apple forums. It doesn't affect you unless you have an SSD.

 

[IlllI]

just saw something about this today http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=15410

 

[GnomeCop]

kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

We know that it is not a hardware issue since nVidia only made one version of this chipset, and it has SATAII and only SATAII, we know that it is not a software issue with OS X since the problem persists in Windows. We know that it can run at SATAII speed since the older systems, and everything but the 13 and 15" MBPs have SATAII. We know that if you order it with an SSD, you get SATAII, if you order with a platter drive, you get SATAI.

That means that the problem is in the EFI firmware on the system.

There is no way that Apple is crippling this intentionally for benchmark/performance reasons. A platter notebook drive cannot utilize SATAII anyway (meaning it can't hit those speeds), and only SSDs benefit. There is very little chance that Apple is doing this for battery life reasons.

My best guess is that there is a 'glitch' or something somewhere along the build line. HOWEVER, at this point, we can almost certainly expect to see a firmware update that will re-enable SATAII and the reason given will be that there was a glitch. Because now the intarwebs have gotten hold of it, and are calling Apple and trying to see what is going on, and to cover their ass they will say it was a glitch and push out a fix regardless of the real reason.

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

We know that it is not a hardware issue since nVidia only made one version of this chipset, and it has SATAII and only SATAII, we know that it is not a software issue with OS X since the problem persists in Windows. We know that it can run at SATAII speed since the older systems, and everything but the 13 and 15" MBPs have SATAII. We know that if you order it with an SSD, you get SATAII, if you order with a platter drive, you get SATAI.

After reading the huge thread at Macrumors, I haven't seen anyone give definitive proof that systems ordered with a SSD come with SATAII enabled. If you do have proof of this, please post a link.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

We know that it is not a hardware issue since nVidia only made one version of this chipset, and it has SATAII and only SATAII, we know that it is not a software issue with OS X since the problem persists in Windows. We know that it can run at SATAII speed since the older systems, and everything but the 13 and 15" MBPs have SATAII. We know that if you order it with an SSD, you get SATAII, if you order with a platter drive, you get SATAI.

After reading the huge thread at Macrumors, I haven't seen anyone give definitive proof that systems ordered with a SSD come with SATAII enabled. If you do have proof of this, please post a link.

Proof?

I read that on engadget, and I may have gone through it too quickly since on a further read it does not directly say 'SSDs get 3Gb/s' but it does imply that. I think that I have read it elsewhere too, but I can't find it right now.

 

[dali71]

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

We know that it is not a hardware issue since nVidia only made one version of this chipset, and it has SATAII and only SATAII, we know that it is not a software issue with OS X since the problem persists in Windows. We know that it can run at SATAII speed since the older systems, and everything but the 13 and 15" MBPs have SATAII. We know that if you order it with an SSD, you get SATAII, if you order with a platter drive, you get SATAI.

After reading the huge thread at Macrumors, I haven't seen anyone give definitive proof that systems ordered with a SSD come with SATAII enabled. If you do have proof of this, please post a link.

Proof?

I read that on engadget, and I may have gone through it too quickly since on a further read it does not directly say 'SSDs get 3Gb/s' but it does imply that. I think that I have read it elsewhere too, but I can't find it right now.

People are just assuming that they enable SATAII when ordered with a SSD, but as of yet there hasn't been any real world confirmation of this. There is a post on the Macrumors thread from someone who claims to have purchased a 13" MBP with the 256GB SSD, which he said was set at SATAI.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: dali71

Originally posted by: TheStu

Originally posted by: GnomeCop
kinda sucks for anyone hoping to upgrade to an ssd if it truly is a hardware issue (which I kind of doubt, but who knows)
I hope apple comes clean with what's going on soon.

We know that it is not a hardware issue since nVidia only made one version of this chipset, and it has SATAII and only SATAII, we know that it is not a software issue with OS X since the problem persists in Windows. We know that it can run at SATAII speed since the older systems, and everything but the 13 and 15" MBPs have SATAII. We know that if you order it with an SSD, you get SATAII, if you order with a platter drive, you get SATAI.

After reading the huge thread at Macrumors, I haven't seen anyone give definitive proof that systems ordered with a SSD come with SATAII enabled. If you do have proof of this, please post a link.

Proof?

I read that on engadget, and I may have gone through it too quickly since on a further read it does not directly say 'SSDs get 3Gb/s' but it does imply that. I think that I have read it elsewhere too, but I can't find it right now.

People are just assuming that they enable SATAII when ordered with a SSD, but as of yet there hasn't been any real world confirmation of this. There is a post on the Macrumors thread from someone who claims to have purchased a 13" MBP with the 256GB SSD, which he said was set at SATAI.

Well, what I need to do is get down to the Apple Store near me (about an hour away) and see if they have any there that are configured with the SSD and see what System Profiler says there.

All this is moot though, I would imagine that Apple will put out a firmware update to correct the issue and we'll just have to see what the official response is.

For me it doesn't matter. I will only be running platter drives in my laptops for the forseeable future (Until SSDs get to at most double the price of Platters at least).

 

[IlllI]

looks like the issue has been resolved http://www.engadget.com/2009/0...s-3gbps-sata-transfer/