The new Mazda6 pwns all!!

[prontospyder]

The wagon looks the best out of the 3.

 

[senseamp]

Those taillights look nothing like Altezzas. Altezzas have a lot more chrome and round lights. These look very clean. I like them a lot. Very creative classy design.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: ZetaEpyon
Holy hell, if they make a Mazdaspeed version of this based on the 5-door, I'll be trading in my Speed3.

The NA V6 rated around 250-280 BHP and 280 lbs of torque won't be enough for you?

I remember ford toating their new 3.5 V6 Cyclone and how easily it is to scale in BHP/Torque and eaisly made for forced induction. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered a super charged V6 in America. If they do, you can throw out your juiced 4 banger.

The power is enough, but I won't be trading my AWD subbie wagon for an FWD mazda any time soon. Now, a turbocharged awd mazda wagon, I just might.

In Europe, the 07 Sedan was offered in AWD. For some reason that feature was left out in the American model. Likely because they needed something to sell the wagon with. Maybe they'll offer it this time around.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Those taillights look nothing like Altezzas. Altezzas have a lot more chrome and round lights. These look very clean. I like them a lot. Very creative classy design.

I was actually speaking of the Altima, not the 6. Though I like the look of the Altima much better overall. The 6 tail looks like it came off a Hyundai. Rest is pretty nice, if a little ricey .

 

[GTaudiophile]

I am liking the interior too, especially that 6-speed transmission!

http://www.km77.com/00/mazda/6/gra/100.asp

Mazda, which engines are you offering with which drive trains???

 

[raildogg]

Ok, I think I'll probably wait for this instead of getting the 08 Mazda 3. Not sure, though ...

Initially, the prices will be pretty high and dealers won't budge that much. We'll see what happens though

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Arkaign
An improvement. "Pwns all" is a bit of an overstatement, imo

Umm, what other mid-size mainstream sedan comes close to touching this in styling?

looks is subjective, and imo the Nissan Altima looks cleaner and nicer than the new MZ6

anyway, I guess I will be one of the few who prefer the previous style. Not that this is bad looking, but the front looks a bit like the previous gen camry, and the rear is kinda like the current Lexus ES350's tail.

 

[andylawcc]

Arkaign: you gotta be kidding us, BMW 3, TL, and G-37 in the same league as MZ6 and Altima???

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
Arkaign: you gotta be kidding us, BMW 3, TL, and G-37 in the same league as MZ6 and Altima???

Sorry, but I have to agree with Arkaign.

The 2008 MZ6 is nicer than...

BMW 3-series sedan (not coupe)
MB C-Class
Lexus IS
Infiniti G37
Toyota Camry
Honda Accord (2008)

But maybe TIED with the simple yet elegant Subaru Legacy GT and 2008 Audi A4.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: andylawcc
Arkaign: you gotta be kidding us, BMW 3, TL, and G-37 in the same league as MZ6 and Altima???

Sorry, but I have to agree with Arkaign.

The 2008 MZ6 is nicer than...

BMW 3-series sedan (not coupe)
MB C-Class
Lexus IS
Infiniti G37
Toyota Camry
Honda Accord (2008)

But maybe TIED with the simple yet elegant Subaru Legacy GT and 2008 Audi A4.

imo, MZ6 is nicer than what you mentioned except the IS and G37.

BUT he also said all of the above can be had at a similar price.... that's what I am getting at.

oh well...

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: andylawcc
Arkaign: you gotta be kidding us, BMW 3, TL, and G-37 in the same league as MZ6 and Altima???

Sorry, but I have to agree with Arkaign.

The 2008 MZ6 is nicer than...

BMW 3-series sedan (not coupe)
MB C-Class
Lexus IS
Infiniti G37
Toyota Camry
Honda Accord (2008)

But maybe TIED with the simple yet elegant Subaru Legacy GT and 2008 Audi A4.

imo, MZ6 is nicer than what you mentioned except the IS and G37.

BUT he also said all of the above can be had at a similar price.... that's what I am getting at.

oh well...

Same price? The MZ6 will cost like $10K LESS than the offerings from BMW, MB, Lexus, and Infiniti...even when fully loaded.

Now what the MZ6 will not have is RWD, but with a really good AWD platform, it MIGHT give some of those other luxury offers a run for their money, depending on what types of engines it gets. Will it ever beat a 335i to 60? Doubtful. A 328i? Maybe.

 

[zoiks]

Wish they could do away with that red lighting crap.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Personally, I'd take an Altima V6 w/6-Spd over the new Mazda 6, but neither car is really amazing. The BMW 3 series, Infiniti G, Acura TL, all continue to offer a ton more class and refinement for not a lot more $, if you buy carefully. Resale value is superior as well.

hehe, sorry, Akraign, welcome to ATOT, we take everyone's word seriously and scrutinize you for every mistake.

 

[ponyo]

I like the wagon. That's the only thing I would consider buying.

 

[thomsbrain]

I'm a fan. It looks great!

Of course, the Mazda 3 is the best looking compact, but I still wouldn't buy one, because the build and material quality isn't up to par with Toy-onda. In fact, it's hardly up to par with the Toy-ondas of the early 1990's, let alone today's models. If they can play a big game of catch-up with the new 6, they'll have a real winner on their hands, because that they really nailed it in the styling department.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Hmm, I like it, but in a way I like the current one more. I see a bit of one of the new Nissan's (Altima? I don't know Nissan's models well), the hood/grille reminds me of the Acura RSX, and the shape of the side windows has a bit of Prius and Impala look (Impala front, Prius rear). Has its own unique character overall. The wagon looks nice too, has a nice clean look, reminds me of the RS6 wagon posted recently as well (both having a clean overall look, not necessarily them looking that similar).

The more I look at it, the more I see bits of other cars. Now, yes, its difficult to do something that has not already been done, but it looks lifted straight from them, not just a resemblance. Not that its a bad thing, as they seem to have taken the good parts and put them together.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: andylawcc
Arkaign: you gotta be kidding us, BMW 3, TL, and G-37 in the same league as MZ6 and Altima???

Sorry, but I have to agree with Arkaign.

The 2008 MZ6 is nicer than...

BMW 3-series sedan (not coupe)
MB C-Class
Lexus IS
Infiniti G37
Toyota Camry
Honda Accord (2008)

But maybe TIED with the simple yet elegant Subaru Legacy GT and 2008 Audi A4.

imo, MZ6 is nicer than what you mentioned except the IS and G37.

BUT he also said all of the above can be had at a similar price.... that's what I am getting at.

oh well...

Eh, if you re-read my post, I said that if you buy carefully, you can get into a nicer car for a little bit more money in some cases (G35/G37, Base BMW 3, etc), or sometimes for equal/less (Altima 270HP Coupe). But it takes a lot of patience, and waiting for the perfect deal to come along. My brother did that with his TL, got one new w/NAV for around $28k IIRC. Of course, if you're equally anal about getting a Mazda 6, you'll find a great deal as well.

In retrospect, it was an intellectually messy post, but I think the point comes across well enough. If you're spending $25-$26k on a car, cranking out another few grand won't make a helluva lot of difference in the end (particularly if you score decent financing, and maybe stretch it out 12 more mos). This is why closeout models of higher class should always be considered at least.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Eh, if you re-read my post, I said that if you buy carefully, you can get into a nicer car for a little bit more money in some cases (G35/G37, Base BMW 3, etc), or sometimes for equal/less (Altima 270HP Coupe). But it takes a lot of patience, and waiting for the perfect deal to come along. My brother did that with his TL, got one new w/NAV for around $28k IIRC. Of course, if you're equally anal about getting a Mazda 6, you'll find a great deal as well.

In retrospect, it was an intellectually messy post, but I think the point comes across well enough. If you're spending $25-$26k on a car, cranking out another few grand won't make a helluva lot of difference in the end (particularly if you score decent financing, and maybe stretch it out 12 more mos). This is why closeout models of higher class should always be considered at least.

understood-ed

 

[Insane3D]

It looks nice, but it also looks like lots of other sedans out there. I'll wait to see the if they release a Mazdaspeed version since none of the new models offer anything over what I have now. The 2.3 DISI turbo in the current speed 6 is rated at 280 torque, but that's underated. I put mine on the dyno stock and I'm putting down 270 wheel torque, I've already got the 6 speed, and the AWD...

At least it's an improvement over the "normal" current 6's. Are these still going to be made in the joint Ford/Mazda plant in Flat Rock, MI, or will they be built with the rest of the Mazda's and Mazdaspeed variants in Hiroshima? I never understood why almost all the Mazda's come out of Japan, except the "normal" 6's...

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I am liking the interior too, especially that 6-speed transmission!

http://www.km77.com/00/mazda/6/gra/100.asp

Mazda, which engines are you offering with which drive trains???

Did you not see the Mazdaspeed 6? It and the speed 3 already have that 6 speed. The interior is a step back IMO...at least the instrument cluster. Otherwise, it's not much different.

I personally prefer the interior of the Speed over that...

http://www.grohol.com/mazda/mspeed6Gallery5.jpg

I'm not a fan of factory NAV, but if I was, the new spot for it is probably a better location...

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

NA FTW Wow, I bet even a modest forced-induction version of that V6 would be beastly. All things considered, I'd prefer a 250hp NA V6 to a 250hp Turbo 4 under all circumstances. The only advantage to turbos is the easy tunability (usually voiding warranty and reducing reliability). Simple is better

I disagree...but it really depends on what you look for in a car. If you are the type to do most work yourself, and enjoy having a car like that, the turbo is probably a better choice. If you are the type to just buy a car every few years and go to the dealer for everything, then NA might be a better choice. The current speed is already putting out 275 (270)HP, 280ft/lbs...the NA V6's aren't...even close. Not to mention they are all FWD except for the Speed.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Looks like it's based on the new Mondeo platform, which is no bad thing.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I'm a fan. It looks great!

Of course, the Mazda 3 is the best looking compact, but I still wouldn't buy one, because the build and material quality isn't up to par with Toy-onda. In fact, it's hardly up to par with the Toy-ondas of the early 1990's, let alone today's models. If they can play a big game of catch-up with the new 6, they'll have a real winner on their hands, because that they really nailed it in the styling department.

Umm, have you actually even BEEN in a Mazda3, let alone driven one?

It's interior quality is easily equal to the Corolla and Civic (if not, better than) and reviews have said as much. Hell, the two-year old Mazda3 even beat out the then brand new 2006 Civic over at Edmunds (hell, even C&D picked the Mazda3 over the Civic):

Even so, the Mazda still outshines the newly redesigned Civic when it comes to interior materials and styling. Plus, the Mazda's dash is easier to use than the Civic's two-tiered speedometer/tachometer displays as are its stereo and heater-A/C controls.

Otherwise, the 3's interior is simply nicer than the Civic's. Leather seats with seat heaters are standard with the "S Grand Touring" trim level. The leather-wrapped steering wheel is relatively small in diameter and thick-rimmed which makes the 3 feel more like a sports car when you're beating WRXs through the slalom.

It's the little things that add up to give the 3 the victory. It does virtually nothing wrong and gets so much right. We prefer its interior design and functionality and we think it's a better-looking car than the Civic. Plus, it wins in any contest of performance. Bottom line, the 2006 Mazda 3 wins because it offers a driving experience far beyond our expectations and, more importantly, beyond its price tag.

http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vd...es/108601/article.html


I'm sorry, but your 1990s cliches are just TIRED :roll:

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

You = Crazy

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/n..._Audi_RS6_Leaked.shtml

 

[Dman877]

The side a front reminds me of my 04 TSX a lot. Very clean look imo. I like it. Hopefully a speed6 version w/awd, 6 spd, and 250 - 300 hp won't break the bank .