The new Mazda6 pwns all!!

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

You = Crazy

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/n..._Audi_RS6_Leaked.shtml

You just spank it to fugly wagons. Sometimes I wonder if all that staring at the PC hasn't jacked up your brain Sedan > Wagon, all the time, everytime.

 

[GTaudiophile]

I agree with NSF4.

As a former 2005 Mazda 3S sedan owner, I would have no trouble buying one again, and picking it over offerings from Honda, Toyota, and others.

I wanted a car that was "funish" to drive, sporty, reliable, had decent power, had decent economy, had a MT with its better engine, and had upper-level features and options. The Mazda 3 offered all of this. In fact, I easily chose the MZ3S over the Acura TSX. Yes, I test drove the latter. The Acura easily had a better interior but did not handle as well and didn't seem as powerful. Now, if I had $30K to spend at the time, I would have bought the Subaru Legacy GT, but even it lacked in some ways compared to the MZ3S in terms of features and fit & finish.

In the 1.5-2 years I owned my MZ3, I had zero defects with the car, either mechanically or with fit & finish. It was a top-notch car, and I continue to be a Mazda fanboi.

Why did I get rid of my Mazda after only 20K miles of driving? I moved to DC where the cost of living is much higher and the need for a car is just not there.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

Them's fightin' words, hoss!

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

Hah!

In addition to the RS6...

Audi S4 / RS4 Avant

Subaru Legacy GT Wagon

Subaru WRX Wagon

Ferrari 456 Speciale Venice (http://www.qv500.com/Ferrari%20456%20P3%202.jpg)

 

[ViviTheMage]

I like the interior...but not so much with those headlights.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

Hah!

In addition to the RS6...

Audi S4 / RS4 Avant

Subaru Legacy GT Wagon

Subaru WRX Wagon

Ferrari 456 Speciale Venice (http://www.qv500.com/Ferrari%20456%20P3%202.jpg)

I agree. Wagons FTW!

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
I'm a fan. It looks great!

Of course, the Mazda 3 is the best looking compact, but I still wouldn't buy one, because the build and material quality isn't up to par with Toy-onda. In fact, it's hardly up to par with the Toy-ondas of the early 1990's, let alone today's models. If they can play a big game of catch-up with the new 6, they'll have a real winner on their hands, because that they really nailed it in the styling department.

Huh? I whole heartedly disagree. It is significantly nicer than the Toyota Corrolla, similar to the Scion Tc...and a bit behind the Honda Civic (which is newer). Mazda does not put out crappy fit/finish...it is usually on par with cars coming out from Honda/Toy at the time the car is released.

The Mazda Millennia is a great example of great Mazda fit/finish. The original 6 was not the best, but the 3 was definitely nice when it came out. It is aging now and I'm sure the next iteration will be more than up to par with Toyota's/Honda's crop at the moment.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: NTB
Looks good, for the most part. But why on earth did they use canned guages like the 3? I just recently purchased an '07 3i, and those guages are one of my few complaints. Great at night, but sometimes difficult to read in the daytime because of the shadows.

EDIT: Looks like the guages on the new 6 aren't set quite as far back, but I would still prefer no cans at all.

Nathan

I prefer the canned gauges.. I love my 3. They also removed the flip air vents from teh center... i loved that look... it was consistent across the board, unlike my 3.

yes, I realize these are tiny petty things

 

[bigdog1218]

That's by far the nicest Camry I've seen.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218
That's by far the nicest Camry I've seen.

other than being bulkier looking (the article mentioned it's going to weight less than the current model.. i wonder if that's true for the 3.5 v6 or just the four banger), I don't see camry anywhere.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ferrari 456 Speciale Venice (http://www.qv500.com/Ferrari%20456%20P3%202.jpg)

wtf is that? that's NOT hot.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Ferrari 456 Speciale Venice (http://www.qv500.com/Ferrari%20456%20P3%202.jpg)

wtf is that? that's NOT hot.

Hotter than a Mazda 6 at least 4 door Ferrari Stationwagon? The sheer nuttiness of it scores points

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: TheSlamma

Originally posted by: NFS4
The wagon is SEX!

You must have grocery shopping goggles on.. all wagons including this one are lame.

You = Crazy

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/n..._Audi_RS6_Leaked.shtml

Do you want paper or plastic?

 

[kevman]

bleh...a mazda is still a mazda...

 

[Corporate Thug]

never understood the appeal of this (or any other) mazda, although this one is nicer than the current gen.

 

[Regs]

Toyota...their bodies fold in like tin foil. A deer could damn near total the car.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Regs
Toyota...their bodies fold in like tin foil. A deer could damn near total the car.

They're actually quite safe. At the Dallas Auto show a few years back, I saw a Corolla that had been hit by an 18-wheeler, along with pictures of the family that had been in it. Everyone survived without catastrophic injury, and looking at the car, it was unreal.

Of course, what many don't understand about vehicle safety design, is that the exterior areas of the car are SUPPOSED to fall apart under heavy impact, so that the energy transfers itself to deforming/pancaking/distributing throughout as much as possible BEFORE the interior cabin begins to deform.

Toyota's safety record is exemplary overall :

http://www.crashtest.com/toyota_us/ie.htm

A far cry from Ford's record :

http://www.crashtest.com/ford/ie.htm

Or Dodge's :

http://www.crashtest.com/dodge/ie.htm

God forbid you get hit in a Dodge Ram or Ford F-series that isn't of the new gen :

http://money.cnn.com/2001/06/0...me_auto/pickups_crash/

Admittedly, and THANKFULLY, all the new domestic pickups are world-class in safety now.

Just wanted to share that info so that people understood a little more about vehicle safety, and that Toyota has been ahead of the pack in that regard for a long time.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug
never understood the appeal of this (or any other) mazda, although this one is nicer than the current gen.

!? they look a hell of a lot better than their boring japanese counterparts... but then again, that's all subjective.

and the mx5... that is a blast to drive.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Just wanted to share that info so that people understood a little more about vehicle safety, and that Toyota has been ahead of the pack in that regard for a long time.

I dunno about that, I've seen some pretty jacked up accident victims that were in Corollas when I worked at a trauma center, none of us in the ER would ever buy one, same goes for most popular small cars, they really don't do well when up against a pickup or an SUV.

Am an board with the previous generation F150's crashworthiness though, I sold mine primarily because of it's poor ratings, you can't look at those photos without getting a little freaked out. They don't test 3/4 ton stuff, but according to the IIHS study, my F250 is pretty safe according real world stats, as well as the Miata (something about the way the passenger compartment is so rigid I guess), have seen quite a few in a wrecking yard & that does seem to be the case, minimal footwell intrusion, and the passenger compartment seems to come through unscathed even in side impacts...

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Just wanted to share that info so that people understood a little more about vehicle safety, and that Toyota has been ahead of the pack in that regard for a long time.

I dunno about that, I've seen some pretty jacked up accident victims that were in Corollas when I worked at a trauma center, none of us in the ER would ever buy one, same goes for most popular small cars, they really don't do well when up against a pickup or an SUV.

Am an board with the previous generation F150's crashworthiness though, I sold mine primarily because of it's poor ratings, you can't look at those photos without getting a little freaked out. They don't test 3/4 ton stuff, but according to the IIHS study, my F250 is pretty safe according real world stats, as well as the Miata (something about the way the passenger compartment is so rigid I guess), have seen quite a few in a wrecking yard & that does seem to be the case, minimal footwell intrusion, and the passenger compartment seems to come through unscathed even in side impacts...

Yep, agreed on the small car thing. You can only compensate for lack of mass so much. The trick is whether the car has room to get knocked out of the way vs. being smashed between something. It sort of sucks to see all those soccer moms driving 6000 lb land tanks like they were go karts, weaving in and out of traffic on cell phones. I'd bet that most of those Corolla victims were hit by huge vehicles in circumstances where the car was pinned rather than able to be thrown off from the impact. A vehicle's mass can work against it as well, the older domestic trucks are prime examples of that. Something that weighs 5,000 lbs will have to be build tougher to not fold in on itself vs. a lighter vehicle.

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: Funyuns101
looks very nice.
I kinda wish that the wagon didn't look so much like a station wagon, but more like a hatchback.

i agree. but the sedan does look good. very good.

 

[aphex]

when is this supposed to be in showrooms?

 

[moks78]

Mazda6 is miles ahead of the competition in terms of style and would even give some of the premium makes a run for their money.

:thumbsup:

 

[Tremulant]

Originally posted by: aphex
when is this supposed to be in showrooms?

The official reveal is at the Frankfurt Auto Show, which starts on Sept. 13th.

Sadly, there's rumors that the US version will ride on a different platform and have a different body.

I don't know to believe them though, since Ford is moving towards sharing platforms, I don't see them continuing to use different platforms in different markets for new models.

 

[PricklyPete]

Originally posted by: Tremulant

Originally posted by: aphex
when is this supposed to be in showrooms?

The official reveal is at the Frankfurt Auto Show, which starts on Sept. 13th.

Sadly, there's rumors that the US version will ride on a different platform and have a different body.

I don't know to believe them though, since Ford is moving towards sharing platforms, I don't see them continuing to use different platforms in different markets for new models.

Those rumor seem really unfounded for several reasons. The biggest being that Ford is trying VERY hard to consolidate its platforms to reduce production costs. One of the goals with using the Mondeo platform was to start that consolidation without losing the "driveability" that Mazda's are known for (they have always been the closest to a "European" Japanese automaker).

I'm really excited about this upcoming vehicle...especially the nearly guaranteed to come 'speed6 version.

Edit: Saw on C&D website that you may be in fact correct that this will not be the model coming to the US...sighh...Mazda...don't screw up the US version