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Pariah

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What you're looking for is this:

BootVis

This is a Microsoft utility designed to optimize the boot process. It does quite a bit more though, including tracing the whole boot process and giving you a visual timeline showing how long each individual component takes to intialize. This should tell you exactly what is causing the stall in your boot process. Very useful utility everyone should have.
 

450R

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Could it be a networking issue? Is the HDD continously busy during boot-up?
 

13Gigatons

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Take 4 WD RE2's and RAID them and the performance is pretty damn good. Plus you get 1.6 Terabytes of space for 50 cents per gig.
 

Vegito

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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

for that price, you better go scsi... at least you can chain up 14 drives on 1 channel
 

Looney

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You have Windows Blinds, that stuff will slow it down as well. Kill all your startup completely, and see how fast it boots. Could also be a network issue as well, try disabling your network and see if that helps. I don't mean to run your system without any startups or a network, but if you did those and it boot up quick, then you know one of those are the issue, and you can narrow it from there (by turning one thing on at a time).
 

cbns

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Originally posted by: Looney
You have Windows Blinds, that stuff will slow it down as well. Kill all your startup completely, and see how fast it boots. Could also be a network issue as well, try disabling your network and see if that helps. I don't mean to run your system without any startups or a network, but if you did those and it boot up quick, then you know one of those are the issue, and you can narrow it from there (by turning one thing on at a time).


this is an idea! thanks

also, I ran bootvis and optimized with it. nothing
 

pulsedrive

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Just for clarification a USER ERROR is something YOU did. You being the USER and there being ab ERROR that YOU caused.


Moving on from there I am going to have to agree that Windows Blinds is a resourse hog, now considering your system specs I doubt that is all of it or it may not even have anythign to do with it. But since your ystem keeps having this happen after a couple of months of usage it is definately something YOU are doing to the OS, since you said it works fine right after a fresh install.

[edit for spelling]
 

JBT

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im glad that a new Raptor is comming out but that price point seems like way to much.
 

cbns

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Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Just for clarification a USER ERROR is something YOU did. You being the USER and there being ab ERROR that YOU caused.


Moving on from there I am going to have to agree that Windows Blinds is a resourse hog, now considering your system specs I doubt that is all of it or it may not even have anythign to do with it. But since your ystem keeps having this happen after a couple of months of usage it is definately something YOU are doing to the OS, since you said it works fine right after a fresh install.

[edit for spelling]

aye but WHAT could I do that messes up the OS so much?
all i do is install and run programs, store files, move them around etc

 

Mik3y

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ok, so terms of performance, will there really be any difference between the new "gaming" raptor drive and the TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) marchitecture?
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: cbns
well, i've formatted many times and my windows has always given me crap after a few months.
i cannot explain it. i've minimised startup programs in msconfig to only the essential things for me, doesn't help.

i can't see what user habits i have that can explain this :-/
and i use norton antivirus 2005.

your problem is you are using norton anti virus 2005. that alone will cause your boot times to rise.
the reason it takes so long is because norton is running the antivirus at startup. if you disable the anti virus you will see a noticeable difference in boot times.

also if you browse the net frequently you gain a lot of internet junk. delete all of your temporary files, internet cache.

 

cbns

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
ok, so terms of performance, will there really be any difference between the new "gaming" raptor drive and the TLER (Time Limited Error Recovery) marchitecture?


it's quite new, but i'd imagine it will make the current raptors sink in price.
also it's performance can very likely be higher because of the increased density and 16meg cache
I do not know what TLER is
 

cbns

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Originally posted by: jpbelauskas
Originally posted by: cbns
well, i've formatted many times and my windows has always given me crap after a few months.
i cannot explain it. i've minimised startup programs in msconfig to only the essential things for me, doesn't help.

i can't see what user habits i have that can explain this :-/
and i use norton antivirus 2005.

your problem is you are using norton anti virus 2005. that alone will cause your boot times to rise.
the reason it takes so long is because norton is running the antivirus at startup. if you disable the anti virus you will see a noticeable difference in boot times.

also if you browse the net frequently you gain a lot of internet junk. delete all of your temporary files, internet cache.


I uninstalled norton and now use avast!
no boot difference.
I did a windows clean already with the registry, temp folders, internet junk, spyware scan etc.
Windows still does about 15-20 passes with the bar before I first see a black screen with a mouse, and then finally my desktop loads with all the icons but my start bar is completely bright blue and it needs another minute to finish loading that and the startup programs.

edit - and my PC was only about 1-3% faster with all startup programs disabled
 
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