The Next Frontier in Social Justice: Fattitude

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Bulk Beef

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You know, hyperthyroidism can make one a little cranky, to the point of seeming like a bit of an asshole. Maybe the fatty haters in this thread have a thyroid problem too. And maybe you fat tubs o' goo should back the fuck off.
 

highland145

Lifer
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You know, hyperthyroidism can make one a little cranky, to the point of seeming like a bit of an asshole. Maybe the fatty haters in this thread have a thyroid problem too. And maybe you fat tubs o' goo should back the fuck off.
BB has spoken.
 

surfsatwerk

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seriously why would you stress out about it something you have no control over, its stupid. You'll probably die of a heart attack before the fat persons you are spazzing about does. Shaming folks does not make them lose weight. So why continue to do it? you enjoy bullying people? To make yourself feel superior?

but i don't know what i am trying to be reasonable with you you have proven yourself to be an annoying immature prick. Maybe when you grow up we can chat, we'll both laugh at what a douchebag you were.

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mikeymikec

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Whats not fair enough is that being happy with it now wont make the nasty things that it does to your body later on not happen.

That goes with the territory, whether they're in denial of it or not. There are a load of other things that people don't get routinely publicly shamed for as well that negatively affect health.

Fair enough if youre fat and happy but you really shouldnt pretend that stopping people from saying nasty things to you will stop you from getting, say, horribly infected skin ulcers (or any other horrible, life shortening nasty).
People still smoke, drink excessively, eat a lot of crap which increases the chance of the big C and other nasties, spend too much time on computers and not enough time working out, not get enough sleep, frequently engage in sexual habits that endanger them and their partner (coercing partners by saying things like "I don't like condoms", for example), the health consequences are obvious for these as well, yet they don't get the same amount of 'shaming' attention.

Judging by the posts since I posted my first message on this thread, I think people are simply justifying their right to be an ignorant arsehole.
 

Zaap

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That goes with the territory, whether they're in denial of it or not. There are a load of other things that people don't get routinely publicly shamed for as well that negatively affect health.

People still smoke, drink excessively, eat a lot of crap which increases the chance of the big C and other nasties, spend too much time on computers and not enough time working out, not get enough sleep, frequently engage in sexual habits that endanger them and their partner (coercing partners by saying things like "I don't like condoms", for example), the health consequences are obvious for these as well, yet they don't get the same amount of 'shaming' attention.

Judging by the posts since I posted my first message on this thread, I think people are simply justifying their right to be an ignorant arsehole.

Every one of the non-sexual examples you gave contributes to people being fat, so not really sure the point you thought you were making with those.

And all this "public shaming" nonsense is drama queen bullshit anyway. Fat people don't really walk around the streets getting pelted with donuts and people screaming "shame on you, fatty!" Or any other such drama queen bullshit people seem to be fantasizing about. Actually, it sounds far.more likely to me that whatever "public shame" people are claiming to experience is 99% an inside job. People feel ashamed of themselves to walk around looking like the Goodyear blimp on a street full of skinny people, but sorry, that's not really "public shaming", that's "YOU feel ashamed in public."

And as for people's sexual proclivities bringing about the same feelings of shame... well, if one wears around the negative results visible to all on their physical being, then they too will probably feel the same shame in public. If you eat too much crap and sit docile all day, you carry the physical result around with you for all to see. Feel ashamed? Then change.

Likewise, if there's some physical side effect to unhealthy sex habbits (I dunno... obvious infections on skin? Stains on clothing? Walking with some sort of sexually-caused-limp?) Then I'm sure people would likewise feel ashamed of that being obvious to all in public.
 

HamburgerBoy

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People still smoke, drink excessively, eat a lot of crap which increases the chance of the big C and other nasties, spend too much time on computers and not enough time working out, not get enough sleep, frequently engage in sexual habits that endanger them and their partner (coercing partners by saying things like "I don't like condoms", for example), the health consequences are obvious for these as well, yet they don't get the same amount of 'shaming' attention.

Pretty much none of those things have movements built around accepting them, I don't think any of them individually affect Americans as much as overeating, and you won't be called an asshole for "shaming" a random smoker that you would a fatty.
 

mikeymikec

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Pretty much none of those things have movements built around accepting them,

True, and I don't advocate such movements, though I can empathise with those personally experiencing the reasons for their creation.

and you won't be called an asshole for "shaming" a random smoker that you would a fatty.
We must be experiencing very different societies. But then, smoking in most publicly accessible buildings here is illegal (there ought to be quite a few asterisks after that statement, but that's my grasp of the law).

Wait, they get to be happy with their choice, but I don't get to be unhappy with it? Fuck that. We have every right to ridicule, shame and humiliate fatties. Personally, for my part, it's coming from a good place. I hope they prove me wrong and lose the weight so they can be healthy, attractive people.

Everything that everyone does is not ok. Everyone just needs to let that one go. Everyone is perfectly entitled to judge everyone else however they like. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen (literal kitchen for fatties.)

I didn't say anything along the lines that you should be happy with their lifestyle because they are. There's just no need and no use for you flouting your ignorance in the form of shaming them for their figure.

Re: text in bold - Further proof that this is about you and not "the fatties", you actually think it is OK to encourage fat people to avoid an active lifestyle so that they can avoid your ignorant attempts to shame them.
 
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Paul98

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The excuses, science telling people "being fat isn't your fault," and others telling them it's ok is dangerous. These beliefs will make it so people won't take responsibility for their actions. They won't make changes to what they eat and how much they exercise instead will simply use excuses to backup their bad behavior.

Eat better and exercise, it really is that easy for most people if they want to lose weight. If you stop letting excuses get in your way it's easy to do. For those who are overweight who want to lose weight they might want to write down everything they eat every day during a normal week. Along with how much exercise they get.

You need to do something that is sustainable not some stupid diet fad, or exercise that you hate. Once you start seeing change and you see it can be done, you will stop falling back on the excuses and will continue on.

It's always hard to start keep at it for the first couple months but after a while it becomes normal and what you did before will seem bad.

It makes me sad when I see some of these people who are quite overweight and are doing nothing to change it.
 

Mursilis

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Over the last 10 years the obese people have taken over my office. It&#8217;s really sad they reinforce each other&#8217;s bad habits and I think that they give each other a false sense of reality. I would say that 80-90% of the women are morbidly obese. Some of them are in there 20s and 30s and have children and I think how sad it will be for their kids because most of them will have serious medical issues so early and will be to handicapped to even play with their grandkids if they live that long. The only time I go into our break room is to wash an apple or get some hot water for my oatmeal, and I sometimes get the comment &#8220;is that all your eating&#8221; , while they eat their 3000 calorie feast for lunch.

At my kids school there are so many fat kids, when I was a kid maybe there was that one fat kid that probably did have some sort of real medical issue that contributed to his weight. Our society is getting out of control something has to change.

That's the saddest part to me - that some parents are bringing up their kids to think that morbid obesity is somehow the norm, and letting their kids develop bad habits and do significant damage to their health before they're even adults. My son and I were in a fast food restaurant (yes, we got lunch there, but it's rare for us and we did a 10 mile run later that day) over the weekend, and we saw a family of three walk in. Both the mother and father were obese, the mother likely morbidly so. Their daughter was ~11, and was obese to the point her belly hung out of the bottom of her shirt and over the waistband of her shorts. I felt so bad for her! She saw that some special shake flavor was back on the menu, and she excitedly turned to her mother saying "They have it! It's back!" Of course they ordered her one, along with a large meal - probably close to 1500 calories for a single meal. How is that not child abuse? They were setting up their child for a lifetime of physical health issues - it was just so sad.
 

nehalem256

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frequently engage in sexual habits that endanger them and their partner (coercing partners by saying things like "I don't like condoms", for example), the health consequences are obvious for these as well, yet they don't get the same amount of 'shaming' attention.

You mean like being a slut? Yeah I'm sure that no one has ever been shamed for that

Of course the real irony with your statement is that the same people pushing for the normalization of obesity are also pushing for the normalization of slutiness.
 

nehalem256

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Pretty much none of those things have movements built around accepting them, I don't think any of them individually affect Americans as much as overeating, and you won't be called an asshole for "shaming" a random smoker that you would a fatty.

Hell, smoking LEGALLY is banned from bars and restaurants in many locations. Imagine if we made fatties go outside to eat?
 

MasterOfUsers

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That's false, or at least a claim that is up for debate. There is evidence that people make a choice to be gay, and there is evidence that people are born fat too.

93% of women who call themselves lesbians have had sex with men. Was that not a choice?

How about babies being born overweight? According to the CDC, babies that are born over 8 pounds 10 ounces run a greater chance of growing up to be obese. And there has been research that shows people can get fat from genetic mutations.

The 93% number is for women who had sexual contact with a woman. I'd wager that very few of them would describe themselves as lesbian.

Try not getting your data from articles written by dishonest fundamentalists.

http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/53/suppl_3/S84.long

"Surveys in an STD clinic in 1988–1992 found that women who reported same-sex contact (93% of whom also had male partners)"
 

MasterOfUsers

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If you eat more calories than you expend your body will store it as fat, if you eat less calories than you expend your body will use the fat (and muscle tissue) for energy.

This is physics 101 and there isn't a human out there who has a body that defies the laws of physics.
 

MagickMan

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Hell, smoking LEGALLY is banned from bars and restaurants in many locations. Imagine if we made fatties go outside to eat?

We should take away their transportation and make them walk or ride a bicycle everywhere, there wouldn't be many fatties left in 5 years.
 

nixium

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My biggest problem (pun intended) with stuff like this is that it doesn't differentiate between manageable and unmanageable obesity. First get everyone to eat healthy and exercise. Then focus on whomsoever that doesn't work.

The way this sounds right now, all fat people are marathon runners and eat healthy but gland problems force them to be fat. I call BS on that. Go to NYC and then to Houston. You can't tell me Houston somehow has all the genetically fat people and NYC has very few.

I don't think fat people should be shamed but the way this movie and the thin privilege blog makes it sound, even encouraging a fat person to lose weight is "shaming".
 

Zaap

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My biggest problem (pun intended) with stuff like this is that it doesn't differentiate between manageable and unmanageable obesity. First get everyone to eat healthy and exercise. Then focus on whomsoever that doesn't work.

The way this sounds right now, all fat people are marathon runners and eat healthy but gland problems force them to be fat. I call BS on that. Go to NYC and then to Houston. You can't tell me Houston somehow has all the genetically fat people and NYC has very few.

I don't think fat people should be shamed but the way this movie and the thin privilege blog makes it sound, even encouraging a fat person to lose weight is "shaming".

Spot on.
 
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