The Nvidia G-Sync Thread

[stahlhart]

This discussion is about G-Sync. Stay on topic, and do not derail the thread.
-- stahlhart

 

[Holler]

G-Sync is a game changer. They essentially made every regular LCD obsolete overnight from a gaming experience perspective. There is no way my next monitor will be without G-Sync. Prolly going to pick up some Nvidia stock soon.

 

[tviceman]

I wonder if anyone on an IPS will be willing to "downgrade" to a TN panel with gsync. I wish there didn't have to be a compromise. Heck I would go back to 1080p if it was IPS and gsync compatible.

 

[HurleyBird]

I wonder if anyone on an IPS will be willing to "downgrade" to a TN panel with gsync.

I wouldn't downgrade to a TN panel if it was 4K, Gsync, 3D, and 580Hz.

 

[Teizo]

I wonder if anyone on an IPS will be willing to "downgrade" to a TN panel with gsync. I wish there didn't have to be a compromise. Heck I would go back to 1080p if it was IPS and gsync compatible.

They are going to have G-Sync on IPS eventually. Just in the beginning the first monitors rolled out are going to be TN more than likely.

There is no reason, to my knowledge, why G-Sync will not work with IPS. IPS is just the panel...it has nothing to do with the refresh rate. The only reason IPS may not be adopted early is due to cost. Since the majority of gamers play on TN panels, and TN Panels are cheaper, TN Panels will offer the best path the early revenue/profit while the cost of implementation is higher.

 

[blastingcap]

They are going to have G-Sync on IPS eventually. Just in the beginning the first monitors rolled out are going to be TN more than likely.

There is no reason, to my knowledge, why G-Sync will not work with IPS. IPS is just the panel...it has nothing to do with the refresh rate. The only reason IPS may not be adopted early is due to cost. Since the majority of gamers play on TN panels, and TN Panels are cheaper, TN Panels will offer the best path the early revenue/profit while the cost of implementation is higher.

I agree.

 

[3DVagabond]

They are going to have G-Sync on IPS eventually. Just in the beginning the first monitors rolled out are going to be TN more than likely.

There is no reason, to my knowledge, why G-Sync will not work with IPS. IPS is just the panel...it has nothing to do with the refresh rate. The only reason IPS may not be adopted early is due to cost. Since the majority of gamers play on TN panels, and TN Panels are cheaper, TN Panels will offer the best path the early revenue/profit while the cost of implementation is higher.

I think we have a better chance of seeing a version that is agnostic of the brand video card that's used spreading to all monitors.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Are there any IPS screens that do 120hz natively?


Will they offer G-Sync without LightBoost?


Seems that would be the biggest hindrance for IPS.

 

[bystander36]

Are there any IPS screens that do 120hz natively?


Will they offer G-Sync without LightBoost?


Seems that would be the biggest hindrance for IPS.

There is one that I've seen that is a VA panel with a Lightboost like tech.

 

[Despoiler]

There is one that I've seen that is a VA panel with a Lightboost like tech.

The Eizo Foris FG2421. G-SYNC is a non-starter now that this monitor is out.

http://www.eizo.com/global/products/foris/fg2421/

 

[5150Joker]

The Eizo Foris FG2421. G-SYNC is a non-starter now that this monitor is out.

http://www.eizo.com/global/products/foris/fg2421/

This doesn't address the problems that gsync solves.

 

[Erazor51]

I have a high end NEC 2690 16:10 IPS screen so for me to use G-Sync will I need to buy a new screen that is G-Sync enabled? or will it work with my current screen via software?

 

[imaheadcase]

Any word from BenQ yet if the Xl2420TE 144Hz can be upgraded or just the asus?

 

[Despoiler]

This doesn't address the problems that gsync solves.

It does however solve issues that TN panels have, that being terrible colors and viewing angles. It also has insanely high contrast post calibration. It's one of the best of all time amongst all monitors.

 

[Face2Face]

27" 1440P @ 120Hz with G-Sync is coming at some point- http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/

 

[BallaTheFeared]

That is great news for a lot of people I imagine!

 

[Pandora's Box]

27" 1440P @ 120Hz with G-Sync is coming at some point- http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/

:awe:

 

[3DVagabond]

I have a high end NEC 2690 16:10 IPS screen so for me to use G-Sync will I need to buy a new screen that is G-Sync enabled? or will it work with my current screen via software?

GSync is not a software solution. It requires specific hardware be built into the monitor. There is an Asus model that can be retrofitted for reportedly ~$100. Other than that it's new monitor time if you want GSync.

It would be nice if there was a reasonable choice of monitors. Looks like it's only going to be 1 model of Asus at first, and then who knows?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

I have the Asus that can be retrofitted. I can assure you that while the response time and steobing are great the tn panel absolutely sucks.

Viewing angles are horrid and the colors are all washed out. The Samsung it replaced (23 in 750d) had impressive colors and viewing angles for a tn. I'm still sad that that panel died.

 

[Aikouka]

I have the Asus that can be retrofitted. I can assure you that while the response time and steobing are great the tn panel absolutely sucks.

Viewing angles are hurried and the colors are all washed out. The Samsung it replaced (23 in 750d) had impressive colors and viewing angles for a tn. I'm still sad that that panel died.

You're preaching to the choir here, buddy. I've got an ASUS VG278H next to a Dell UltraSharp 2709W, and it's pretty safe to say that ignoring the higher refresh rate, the ASUS can't hold a candle to the 2709 -- mostly because the heat from the Dell would melt the wax! :biggrin: On a more serious note, the viewing angles are definitely less than ideal. I recall a few times where I'd try to watch a TV show on the ASUS monitor, and if I tried to lean back in my chair, the poor viewing angles darkened the picture so much that it made it too hard to make anything out. I can lean just about any which way and the Dell barely changes.

 

[Despoiler]

GSync is not a software solution. It requires specific hardware be built into the monitor. There is an Asus model that can be retrofitted for reportedly ~$100. Other than that it's new monitor time if you want GSync.

It would be nice if there was a reasonable choice of monitors. Looks like it's only going to be 1 model of Asus at first, and then who knows?

Green said the initial retrofit cards would be around $175 and they are "hoping" to get them down to $130. The monitors with the G-SYNC built in are $100 more than the base monitor.

EDIT:Comment below.

Hi, ASUS has announced that a modded VG248QE sold by a retailer like Newegg or Amazon will have a MSRP of $399.

The VG248QE mod kit is currently estimated to cost $175, though we hope to get that down to $130.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/ar...smooth-stutter-free-gaming#comment-1087658504

 

[Teizo]

27" 1440P @ 120Hz with G-Sync is coming at some point- http://overlordforum.com/topic/603-nvidia-g-sync/

That is great news for a lot of people I imagine!

:awe:

Awesome! Now just to not go crazy waiting for it, and hopefully won't have to sell a kidney to afford it.

:biggrin:

 

[5150Joker]

$100 premium for ground breaking tech like G-SYNC isn't much at all.

 

[Whitestar127]

I read in a post somewhere (not on this forum) that G-sync will not remove the microstuttering caused by multi GPU setups, i.e. the uneven rendering of frames.

This confused me a bit. I thought the g-sync device would be seated between the monitor and the gpu and therefore would reduce/eliminate any kind of stutter?

Someone please deconfuse me.

 

[24601]

I read in a post somewhere (not on this forum) that G-sync will not remove the microstuttering caused by multi GPU setups, i.e. the uneven rendering of frames.

This confused me a bit. I thought the g-sync device would be seated between the monitor and the gpu and therefore would reduce/eliminate any kind of stutter?

Someone please deconfuse me.

If the microstutter is faster than 144hz (6.944444 ms), you can't do anything about it, because that's the interface limit (of the displayport it relies on).

If the transfer interface was faster it could do more. The panel refresh can go as low as 1-2 ms, which would be 500-1000hz.

On top of that, the reason for Crossfire micro-stutter is from delayed frame transfer from the second card to the first, so the image sent out to the monitor would be out of actual (temporal) sync anyways.