The Nvidia G-Sync Thread

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mutantmagnet

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This sounds useless to someone who bought hardware ensuring fps stays above or at monitor refresh rate. Maybe I'm wrong??

Gsync mode won't be useful.

Gsync modules can be used in 3 modes one of which is an improved version of lightboost so it will still have value for you in eliminating motion blur.

Nvidia mentioned it in an interview on PCPer over a month ago. It's been reconfirmed in the blurbusters review but right now everyone is under NDA to not offer reviews for the other 2 modes.
 
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smackababy

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Ugh, what a silly way to release this. Make the kits available to everyone, and $299 ain't gonna cut it Nvidia. $99 is probably the highest price point I'd pay.
 

bystander36

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I can only assume these are early adopter/Christmas rush prices. In a few months things should become more normal.
 

Raghu

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^ Its $499 for the 24" 120Hz with gsync. Not sure where you got the $800 from. Still, expecting prices to fall quickly.
 

96Firebird

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$800 for a 24" 120Hz with gsync?

Its $500 for the monitor with G-Sync included, $300 for just the module so you can add it to the monitor yourself. Not $800 total...

Still, to me, that is way too much. I expect prices to come down next year, and hopefully we get more monitors to promote competition.
 

smackababy

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It could just be that particular site selling to for such a mark up (as they are the only ones willing to sell it to people who didn't already over pay large amounts for their PCs).
 

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The 300 USD is shipping your monitor to those locations to have them install the module and then for them to ship it back to you.

It's done this way because people are most likely to be totally incompetent and trash their monitor. When (not if) that happens, Nvidia doesn't want the bad PR.
 
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bystander36

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Keep in mind, these are not the prefab G-sync monitors. These are the DIY kits. Even though you are buying the monitor with it installed, it is installed by the places selling it to you. The ones assembled with G-sync should be much cheaper.

These guys are probably pricing it this high for a few reasons:
labor
warranty issues
damage done while installing these modules. If they mess up a few while installing it themselves, they have to cover those costs from others sold
its Christmas time
its brand new and are taking advantage of us

I hope that the ones coming from the manufacturer will be much more reasonably priced.
 

Teizo

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Keep in mind, these are not the prefab G-sync monitors. These are the DIY kits. Even though you are buying the monitor with it installed, it is installed by the places selling it to you. The ones assembled with G-sync should be much cheaper.

These guys are probably pricing it this high for a few reasons:
labor
warranty issues
damage done while installing these modules. If they mess up a few while installing it themselves, they have to cover those costs from others sold
its Christmas time
its brand new and are taking advantage of us

I think that is a pretty fair assessment. Looks like Overlord is charging a $99 premium for the service, and then charging $299 if you already have the monitor and want to have them install it. That is a bit steep though. Actually, not a bit...it IS steep. Too much, really.

I hope that the ones coming from the manufacturer will be much more reasonably priced.
I imagine they will. No good to make a product and then price it out of affordability.
 
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smackababy

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The 300 USD is shipping your monitor to those locations to have them install the module and then for them to ship it back to you.

It's done this way because people are most likely to be totally incompetent and trash their monitor. When (not if) that happens, Nvidia doesn't want the bad PR.

I didn't realize this. I thought it was just for them to send you the DIY unit. That is still high, but understandable.

I've modded quite a few joysticks and game consoles as well as tinkered with some electronics, so my soldering skills are probably far above the average person. I wouldn't mind getting a hold of one of the DIY kits and trying it out.

I'd definitely wait for it to working on more than this monitor though. Perhaps, one of those new Dell 4Ks will get support (or even better one of those just announced LGs!).
 

BrightCandle

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I'd definitely wait for it to working on more than this monitor though. Perhaps, one of those new Dell 4Ks will get support (or even better one of those just announced LGs!).

Dell is not one of the release partners so I doubt we would see anything from them in this regard for quite some time. They never got involved in Lightboost so they are unlikely to get involved with Gsync unless it really takes off.
 

BallaTheFeared

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The Tech Report - Late due to combo meth/crack IV drip induced state brought on by G-Sync speed and fluidity.

I tend to have a wee bit of an addictive personality, and playing BL2 with G-Sync's creamy smoothness fed that tendency in wonderful and dangerous ways. That's probably why this G-Sync write-up here is conspiciously late, and it's definitely why my Christmas shopping was a perilously last-minute affair. I played through the rest of the Tiny Tina DLC, burned through the Headhunter packs, and found myself pondering another play-through when I finally had to stop myself and focus on Yuletide cheer rather than looting another bandit. Borderlands 2 offers very immediate feedback; it doesn't use double- or triple-buffering, which is why its FCAT and Fraps results closely correlate. The speed and fluidity of that game on this G-Sync display is like a combo meth/crack IV drip. I could probably make "faces of G-Sync" a thing, if others are affected by it like I am.

http://techreport.com/review/25788/a-first-look-at-nvidia-g-sync-display-tech
 

VulgarDisplay

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http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/Reader-Results-NVIDIA-G-Sync-Upgrade-and-First-Impressions

Seems like it offers a benefit at low FPS like many have suspected. Kinda meh at high FPS compared to a 120/144hz monitor.

So it's a nice option if you want to crank IQ for single player games and keep things smooth under 60fps. Most people like me will be just fine without it. I tend to lower IQ settings to make things easier to see in my multiplayer games and thus get higher FPS.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Seems like it offers a benefit at low FPS like many have suspected. Kinda meh at high FPS compared to a 120/144hz monitor.

No vsync lag would be the benefit there, also when unable to maintain fresh which is going to be pretty hard for 120/144 users without sacrificing IQ and having a stretched out the cpu. You wouldn't have to worry about buffering support increasing input lag or tearing.

So it's a nice option if you want to crank IQ for single player games and keep things smooth under 60fps. Most people like me will be just fine without it. I tend to lower IQ settings to make things easier to see in my multiplayer games and thus get higher FPS.

Competitive MP games are getting smarter about people turning down settings to gain advantages.



The biggest benefit for me personally is high IQ and low power usage, low input lag, and no tearing.
 

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Looking forward to when the price on it comes down and amd has a similar technology for their cards.

Input lag is worse than screen tearing to me, so I'll have to deal with tearing for the time being.
 

VulgarDisplay

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No vsync lag would be the benefit there, also when unable to maintain fresh which is going to be pretty hard for 120/144 users without sacrificing IQ and having a stretched out the cpu. You wouldn't have to worry about buffering support increasing input lag or tearing.



Competitive MP games are getting smarter about people turning down settings to gain advantages.



The biggest benefit for me personally is high IQ and low power usage, low input lag, and no tearing.

Yeah, the input lag is something I would need to test out in person. If it's that big of an improvement I could get the upgrade kit at some point. I usually don't use vsync.

I think tearing is greatly reduced by the faster refresh time on a 120/144hz monitor. The tears are smaller because the refresh is faster. Much less noticeable.
 

BrightCandle

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Scan.co.uk have the Asus monitor with modules prefitted for a grand total of £441. It's a ludicrous markup on an otherwise bad monitor and it is just too expensive IMO. But they have them in stock.
 

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Scan.co.uk have the Asus monitor with modules prefitted for a grand total of £441. It's a ludicrous markup on an otherwise bad monitor and it is just too expensive IMO. But they have them in stock.
THe Asus 144hz TN panel is actually very good. It has probably one of the best ANSI contrast rates out there of any monitor, very good gray scale and better than advertised colors WHEN CALIBRATED properly. THe only downside IMO to this monitor is off angle viewing.....but to me that's never an issue....I don't view my monitors from an angle, but straight on.

I don't think $499 for a G-sync modded Asus monitor is completely outrageous. That's basically $100 more than when Asus released their prebuilt G-sync version. Basically it covers a couple hours of labor is how I look at it.

Paying $4-500 for basically the best motion resolution monitor on the market isn't a bad price at all.
 
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