The Obama Deception

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Socio
Wow, so many suffering from so much denial, Dr. Phil would have a field day on this forum.

Man, you quacks certainly flock to each other, don't you?

 

[JohnnyGage]

Originally posted by: alchemize
I went from mildly indifferent/slightly negative on Obama to being much more opposed to what he's doing, especially fiscally. But this is a friggin whackadoodle video. The circle will be complete once we tie him to 9/11 somehow.

Well I tried to read through the second page and it won't load. Maybe Obama is controlling the internets and there is something he doesn't want seen....

This "documentary" is definitely whackadoodle.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I haven't peeked at it, so I have two questions.

Is Obama a member of "Skull and Crossbones"

And

Was the Trilateral Commission mentioned?

 

[imported_K3N]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I haven't peeked at it, so I have two questions.

Is Obama a member of "Skull and Crossbones"

And

Was the Trilateral Commission mentioned?

The Trilaterals are literally the ones running the country right now. Think of the Trilaterals as the executives for the bilderberg group right now.

 

[OCGuy]

K3N 4 prez

A thread with K3N + Nemesis? This is going to be gold....

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: K3N

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I haven't peeked at it, so I have two questions.

Is Obama a member of "Skull and Crossbones"

And

Was the Trilateral Commission mentioned?

The Trilaterals are literally the ones running the country right now. Think of the Trilaterals as the executives for the bilderberg group right now.

And this all powerful group hasn't killed you for disseminating info about them....why? Let me guess, because they don't believe you are a threat, they don't think that one man making a principled stand could bring down these corporate overlords. And that mistake on their part shall prove their undoing. Mwahaha. Mwahahahaha. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! /drevil

 

[LumbergTech]

cue the NWO music (wolf pack baby)

NWO

(Obama is like sting in the video)

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: K3N

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I haven't peeked at it, so I have two questions.

Is Obama a member of "Skull and Crossbones"

And

Was the Trilateral Commission mentioned?

The Trilaterals are literally the ones running the country right now. Think of the Trilaterals as the executives for the bilderberg group right now.

But what about the Majestic 12? How about Daedalus and Icarus? Do we have a cure for Grey Death yet?

 

[First]

Originally posted by: K3N

keep living in the denial. when the Illuminati decide to nerve gas you and your family, you'll still be calling us tinfoil hats.

Originally posted by: K3N
Bush is an ignorant puppet of the illuminati, he couldn't plan anything even if his life depended on it.

Yes, those are actual quotes. The entertainment value is off the charts. In fact, I'm resigging it. :laugh:

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: K3N

keep living in the denial. when the Illuminati decide to nerve gas you and your family, you'll still be calling us tinfoil hats.

Originally posted by: K3N
Bush is an ignorant puppet of the illuminati, he couldn't plan anything even if his life depended on it.

Yes, those are actual quotes. The entertainment value is off the charts. In fact, I'm resigging it. :laugh:

If someone actually believes that stuff then wow.......

 

[boomer6447]

I hope these people are miserable and convinced that the world is ending for the next 8 years....
I am going to sit here and enjoy watching them suffer.

 

[LtPage1]

I was going to quote the dumbest statement from the OP, and then make a snide comment about his intelligence, but there isn't a single non-idiotic statement there. Wow. I hope he doesn't vote.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, but will I get a complimentary roll of tin foil if I do so?

 

[Caveman]

Not much substance in the thread... Curious to hear some actual rebuttals.

I'm neutral on the video... The main question is... How does one debunk actual footage of Bilderberg group, etc...

It's certainly not like this video is saying anything that can't be corroborated on the nightly news...

In all seriousness, what are people finding so "conspiracy theory crazy" about this video?

 

[sapiens74]

watching this is like watching our media cover politics..


Where's the truth?

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Caveman
Not much substance in the thread... Curious to hear some actual rebuttals.

Yup, interesting to see that no one seems to have any.

 

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: daniel49
A regurgitation of the same stuff we have been hearing since Bush the first.

A lot of half truths mixed with inuendo, speculation, and paranoia.
I wouldn't stay up late worrying about it. Obama will kiss all our boo boos and make them better,:lips:

Did you even watch it?

Or are you like some of the others here just too afraid to watch it, so you dismiss it?

They did a masterful job of putting all the pieces of the puzzle together to depict a stark picture and have done so in a way that not only makes it plausible, it raises enough suspicion to warrant reasonable belief of its validity.

People aren't afraid to watch it because of the TRUTH that it will inject into their minds, they don't want to watch it because nobody wants to hear two hours of insane rambling.

I don't have time to listen to an IDIOT tell me how fucked up someone else is. Now if it was Bush, I might watch it but then I guess.... Tell me something I didn't already know.

Who has time to waste?

So far I'll make up my own mind and form my own opinions ... Sorry I'm not about to let someone spoon feed me BS on out right lies and half truths. I don't need someone to tell me why Obama is BAD for the nation.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Craig234
I'll tae one for the team and watch it until the first nutty thing. I'll summarize the non-nutty points up to that point, if any. This shouldn't take long. Sort of a 'live blog', here goes:

OK, first few minutes are filled with the usual paranoia - video of some kids in some coreographed routine saying 'Yes we can', a screenshot of the news coverage of Obama and Hillary having a 'secret meeting' before the election with the phrase 'secret meeting' highlighted and circled, the seeing eye from the dollar photoshopped on top of the White House, a quote of 'world order' out of context, and so on.

One good clip though - Dennis Kucinich saying to treasury, 'we don't question that you are working hard. Our question is, who are you working for?'

They did get one good dig in, with a treasury secretary quote saying the $700 figure wasn't based on data, but 'they just wanted a big number'.

That doesn't make it wrong, though, it just seems to accurately portray the chaos of the situation and what was needed. OK, back to the video.

Oh, this is good. A hip hop artist making an analogy about getting a cold burger and returning it. 'First, the courts. That's the cashier. Then the manager, that's the president.'

Immediately followed by Jesse Ventura.

Then a laundry list of this group's oncerns, the 'treasonous North American Union' and such.

Then a claim that Obama promised to get America out of NAFTA and GATT. Not that I recall...

There's the constant 'ominous hum' that helps discredit these sort of documentaries - oooOOOooooOOOoooOOOOoooOOOOOooo goes the sound.

They make one valid criticism - that Obama's administration is overweighted with Wall Street figures.

Bzzzzzt. They treat the claim of JFK's assassination as a conspiracy by the 'monied interests' as fact. Wrong. Though I like the 'JSF was the last real president' statement.

Another nutty claim - 'they're threatening to arrest anyone who criticizes Obama', and this proves 'Obama is the biggest puppet since Jimmy Carter'. Huh??

Then it's on to the legitimate issue of media consolidation, but with the nutty conspiracy approach.

They did get Rahm Emmanuel in a 'Shock Doctrine' quote saying you never want to let a crisis be wasted - when you can 'get things done you normally can't.'

And then it's on to the real conspiracy theory - the masters of the world, The Bilderburg Group.

Then it's on to a long conspiracy theory about the 'secret Obama Hilton meeting', trying to link it to 'The Bilderburg Group', with the ominous sounds oooOOoooOOoooOOOOoooOOO.

Some guy claiming a fire alarm at the Marriott he's at to spy on The Bilderburg Group is definitely all about him, by the people who are always following him. ooOOooOOo

Now it's just getting sad - a long clip of a guy 'following them from the Marriott' who parks and goes into a fast food joint - end of clip.

The 'true future direction of the country was being set behind closed doors'.

Now a guy saying 'secret societies approved Obama to get power'.

OK, I went longer than the first nutty claim. Enough. More than enough. Way more.

What's sad is how the kooks get mixed up with the important real 'alternative media' and make it more difficult for legitimate reporting to get heard.

There are enough actual conspiracies staring us in the face, the simple monied interests lobbying for thngs bad for the country, that they don't need 'secret meetings', as if the only way any communication can be done by these alleged 'puppet masters of the world' is with elaborate secret face to face meetings. Guess they never heard of the telephone.

It's interesting that Socio wasn't swayed at all by years of excellent points made against Bush here, but one nutty video has led him to understand the error of his ways.

Maybe I should keep him up tonight worrying by mentioning that the powers that be no doubt have his information from his IP address for posting this.

God help you, you watched it. Sounds like crap. I can't believe people like Socio actually watch these things and don't realize it's crap. Obviously it was intended for an uneducated audience without critical thinking skills.

I like your thinking. Ya. Say about education. Do you know or have you heard anything on the latest Semerian tablets recently found In Iraq. It changes everthing we thought we knew. All those educated people believing a lie . Because Authority said it was true . LOL LOL LOL .

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: boomer6447
I hope these people are miserable and convinced that the world is ending for the next 8 years....
I am going to sit here and enjoy watching them suffer.

Do you have any idea how many people die every year because of starvation.

We Have just gone threw the biggest fraud in economic history. It was created by the world central banks . NOT AIG . AIG is nothing but a distraction . To give International banks greater control of our sovernty. It was just in the news . Its not a conspircey lie. Its a conspircy trueth . Developing right be for your eyes . Yet you deny it.

Watch the 2 hours. Than look at was is transpirering right befor your eyes.

 

[dammitgibs]

Just commit yourself to watch 1 hour, you'll watch the rest.

 

[BansheeX]

It's certainly amusing how Alex Jones reads veiled intent behind every screw up in government. Human greed is a boundless constant throughout history, there's obvious agendas in certain industries and positions, but it's not some grand multi-generational conspiracy leading up to a specific conclusion.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: K3N

Originally posted by: Skoorb
God help you, you watched it. Sounds like crap. I can't believe people like Socio actually watch these things and don't realize it's crap. Obviously it was intended for an uneducated audience without critical thinking skills.

Wow you Obama goons just cant stand any criticism of your Lord Obama... Please go away...

Lets see not even 100days in office...well to be honest most of you expected there to be change in a day or two after taking office....it took GWB 8 years to totally screw things up.....you expect Obama to fix things in what 3 months...rofl

 

[First]

Originally posted by: BansheeX
It's certainly amusing how Alex Jones reads veiled intent behind every screw up in government. Human greed is a boundless constant throughout history, there's obvious agendas in certain industries and positions, but it's not some grand multi-generational conspiracy leading up to a specific conclusion.

Yet people like Peter Schiff continue to claim Bernanke and several other Fed chairmen split between Dems and Repubs going back to Reagan and Volcker have been lying about inflation statistics in what can only be inferred is a grand plot by them all to fool anyone and everyone all around the world! Schiff even himself has shown up several times to talk to conspiracy theory nut Alex Jones.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: BansheeX
It's certainly amusing how Alex Jones reads veiled intent behind every screw up in government. Human greed is a boundless constant throughout history, there's obvious agendas in certain industries and positions, but it's not some grand multi-generational conspiracy leading up to a specific conclusion.

Try looking at it like this OK . We have day and night good and evil up and down .

Just by looking at History. OK .

Take the Holy Roman Catholic Church . It was formed By Ceaser in and around 300AD.

So That Church has had a Agenda inplace a very long time. So to say here is NO Knights templers or Masons who have long term agends, that take centries to carry out is unwise.

History is strange. We accept that which authority says is fact. Unwise. You have to study other versions of History .

For Example . I don't believe this but let me make a case for it. Why did Romans tie up with Christanity?

The Julias Ceaser and Cleopatra history for instance very interesting. Did you Know Julias Had a Son by Cleopatra. Who was true heir to ROME. Did you know he was sent out of the land with his Half brother and Half Sister by Mark anthony. Because the new Ceasar wanted him killed. If you don't know find out who this Man was . Son of Ceasar.

Many believe that he was infact Christ. I don't except that . Because I choose to reject the historic record. But that doesn't make me correct. Find out the half brother and sisters names. What sevants of Cleopatras took charge of the children. Their names what were they??????

So long term (centries) conspircey isn't a questionable fact. Whats questionable is whos agenda is still intact.

 

[BansheeX]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: BansheeX
It's certainly amusing how Alex Jones reads veiled intent behind every screw up in government. Human greed is a boundless constant throughout history, there's obvious agendas in certain industries and positions, but it's not some grand multi-generational conspiracy leading up to a specific conclusion.

Yet people like Peter Schiff continue to claim Bernanke and several other Fed chairmen split between Dems and Repubs going back to Reagan and Volcker have been lying about inflation statistics in what can only be inferred is a grand plot by them all to fool anyone and everyone all around the world! Schiff even himself has shown up several times to talk to conspiracy theory nut Alex Jones.

So, the creators of inflation don't mind blaming themselves for the ill effects of being too easy on rates in the past? When has that ever been true? Of course they don't want to be under the microscope. You know, the first true experiment was Benjamin Strong, the idiot who lowered rates instead of forcing Britain to raise theirs in the 20s. Did he ever admit to any mistake? What about Greenspan? If these guys ever actually came out and said as much, everyone would revile them, they'd never get booked for speaking engagements, protesters would dog them even more than they already do. There's no way in hell Greenspan is being sincere, if he didn't know then, he sure as heck should recognize it in hindsight.

Look at the bigger picture. One of our biggest immediate problems is making good on prior obligations, the largest of which is welfare payouts. Those are adjusted for inflation. It certainly makes sense that the Boskin Commission was formed to understate inflation and sweep that problem under the rug for another few years. It's the same reason unemployment definitions keep getting changed. Politicians never want to make the hard choices, it isn't politically profitable to actually reform the system and tell people their payments are going to have to be cut, nor is it a desirable option for politicians to curb their spending. They choose the path of least resistance, they do what's expedient.