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As was said, this is a continuation of the OWG/NWO conspiracy that has been evolving since Daddy Bush made that comment *clip of it is shown for effect*

They show many clips that are cut too short, resulting in there being no way to know if they were made in the context being applied to them. Typical.

Politically, I think perhaps only Ron Paul supporters could find anything that might be palatable. They have a clip with Ron's brother protesting the fed reserve, and that segment mirrors the Paul campaign stumping on the topic. It trashes both major parties, rips every president since JFK, touches on the past incriminations they made against Bush. Jessi Ventura puts forth that both parties are pulling the pro wrestling tactic of appearing to hate and/or are oppose each other, while being friends that are in on it together, walking arm in arm behind the scenes.

They call Obama "the maximum puppet" Sounds like a bad B movie doesn't it? They take him to task because of all the campaign rhetoric and promises, that he has failed to keep true to. Some seemed valid criticisms e.g. - Saying he wouldn't hire lobbyist, but then doing it, and allowing members of his admin, to hire even more. Not completely squashing the torture and suspension of Habeas corpus issues, stuff like that. The old "grain of truth in every good lie" formula.

They treat a couple of rap artists like experts, on the topic of why a Black president is just the measure taken to keep people from revolting. We were about to revolt you know, but Obama being elected made everyone sit back passively. Don't believe it? Just ask that rapper dude, CRS1? He'll tell ya!

The whole fire alarm at the hotel scene, struck me as premeditated, and I would wager they tripped that fire alarm themselves, for dramatic effect.

Every protest they show, just seems to be some small group of people, with AJ leading it, but the narrator comments about how it is good to see some real Americans standing up against the man!

BTW, they are info-Warriors, what a grand and glorious name they have given themselves.

Again I find myself agreeing with previous comments made, particularly about how they take any negative event and weave it into their NWO conspiracy. They allow for no human error, avarice, incompetence, or other frailties. Everything is a carefully orchestrated series of events designed for a single purpose. Now, wait for it, here it comes, that purpose is...........

A DICTATORIAL ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED BY THE BANKING ELITE!!!!1!1!111!!!

P.S. That was the cliffs, if your reaction was "tl:dr" Go fuck yourself. No, wait, I take that back, you do not require, nor should I provide you with, any encouragement to touch yourself.







 

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Originally posted by: Robor
These threads always bring out the loons.
Yep. I should add to my above review, that one of the protesters at the hotel was holding up a "9/11 was an inside job" sign. Batshit crazy indeed.

I think many people simply can't live with the thought that disorder is normal, and seek to find a nice, neat, orderly pattern, where there is none.
 

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29913195/

Ya got to love this, Its symbolizes victory over the terrorist. Which beggs to question . Who are the terrorist they speak of . Maybe us??
There it is! One World!, right in the tower's name! Clearly this is in keeping with the implementation of the One World Government!

I'm not a praying man, but if you're up there, and you can hear me... Superman save us!

 

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Originally posted by: dammitgibs

Just commit yourself to watch 1 hour, you'll watch the rest.

Just commit yourself to watch 1 hour of this wingnut conspiracy jive, and you'll need to be committed to the same looney bin as the OP and the rest of the tinfoil beany brigade from infowars.com, the source of this POS.
 

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is this something stupid like barack obama was born after 9 months of conception
barack obama has 11 letters in it = 9/11?
 

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Originally posted by: BansheeX

So, the creators of inflation don't mind blaming themselves for the ill effects of being too easy on rates in the past? When has that ever been true? Of course they don't want to be under the microscope. You know, the first true experiment was Benjamin Strong, the idiot who lowered rates instead of forcing Britain to raise theirs in the 20s. Did he ever admit to any mistake? What about Greenspan? If these guys ever actually came out and said as much, everyone would revile them, they'd never get booked for speaking engagements, protesters would dog them even more than they already do. There's no way in hell Greenspan is being sincere, if he didn't know then, he sure as heck should recognize it in hindsight.

Greenspan has admitted he was partially at fault. No wonder you are so insanely ignorant of reality, you don't catch basic news.

Look at the bigger picture. One of our biggest immediate problems is making good on prior obligations, the largest of which is welfare payouts. Those are adjusted for inflation. It certainly makes sense that the Boskin Commission was formed to understate inflation and sweep that problem under the rug for another few years. It's the same reason unemployment definitions keep getting changed. Politicians never want to make the hard choices, it isn't politically profitable to actually reform the system and tell people their payments are going to have to be cut, nor is it a desirable option for politicians to curb their spending. They choose the path of least resistance, they do what's expedient.

None of this BS above is even relevant to the point. Politicians don't redefine economic data or terms like employment or inflation, economists do and they're located all over the world from North America to India. Any trained economist anywhere is free to propose better definitions, politicians don't. This is why no one takes Schiff seriously and why he loses a ton of money for his clients; he proposes crackpot conspiracy theories about different Fed chairman spanned across 3 decades and 5 different Dem/Repub administrations of lying about inflation. He's an idiot, and only idiots follow the guy.
 

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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1


Just by looking at History. OK .

. It was formed By Ceaser in and around 300AD.

Why did Romans tie up with Christanity?

Constantine- turned the roman empire into a Christian accepting one, he was a Germanic and came to power after the Diocletian, who was a Dalmatian, avid pagan and smashed the Germanic regions, basically bringing roman back to greatness and setting up a 4 region autocracy with 4 sub emperor's controlling those area's enforcing strict rules on pricing and taxation (Constantine was one of the 4).
Constantine's motive was more about revenge on real roman's and the garnering of support thru the christian's to take absolute power of the empire, which started to fall apart under his rule- people site Diocletian's economic system as the fault, but it was more about Constantine's failure to enforce adherence to the system, he played favorites with ethnic minorities in the empire the Huns in particular.
Christianity was hated for the fact it refuted roman paganism.
You speak of the knight's Templar who where from a much later period, during the crusades who were around for about 200 year's before disbandment by the catholic church. Any modern groups claiming to be of that order are quite fantastic to believe! They did however establish the first banking system.

As for Obama, if he starts gathering evidence, get's some hard time for those who have scammed the system under the bush admin, you'll know he is the real deal and not the puppet you think.
Leaders come and go, but people still live on.


 

BansheeX

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Originally posted by: Evan
None of this BS above is even relevant to the point. Politicians don't redefine economic data or terms like employment or inflation, economists do and they're located all over the world from North America to India. Any trained economist anywhere is free to propose better definitions, politicians don't. This is why no one takes Schiff seriously and why he loses a ton of money for his clients; he proposes crackpot conspiracy theories about different Fed chairman spanned across 3 decades and 5 different Dem/Repub administrations of lying about inflation. He's an idiot, and only idiots follow the guy.

Dude, Evan, STFU already. The Boskin Commission was appointed by the senate and charged with the task of finding bias on the upside. And there are Schiff clients who are UP because they were investing with him since 2000. You can fucking point to anyone's short term performance to try and discredit them, including Warren Buffet and just about anyone the past two years. It is meaningless in the end game.
 

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Originally posted by: BansheeX
Originally posted by: Evan
None of this BS above is even relevant to the point. Politicians don't redefine economic data or terms like employment or inflation, economists do and they're located all over the world from North America to India. Any trained economist anywhere is free to propose better definitions, politicians don't. This is why no one takes Schiff seriously and why he loses a ton of money for his clients; he proposes crackpot conspiracy theories about different Fed chairman spanned across 3 decades and 5 different Dem/Repub administrations of lying about inflation. He's an idiot, and only idiots follow the guy.

Dude, Evan, STFU already. The Boskin Commission was appointed by the senate and charged with the task of finding bias on the upside. And there are Schiff clients who are UP because they were investing with him since 2000. You can fucking point to anyone's short term performance to try and discredit them, including Warren Buffet and just about anyone the past two years. It is meaningless in the end game.

Evan just wants to lump people like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff into a group of whackjobs like Alex Jones. In Evan's eyes, anyone who opposes central banking is a conspiracy theorist. Can you blame him though? I mean, I'm sure he hates the fact that almost everything he learned in school about economics is presently being proven wrong. It's like a case of displaced anger.
 

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Originally posted by: BansheeX
Originally posted by: Evan
None of this BS above is even relevant to the point. Politicians don't redefine economic data or terms like employment or inflation, economists do and they're located all over the world from North America to India. Any trained economist anywhere is free to propose better definitions, politicians don't. This is why no one takes Schiff seriously and why he loses a ton of money for his clients; he proposes crackpot conspiracy theories about different Fed chairman spanned across 3 decades and 5 different Dem/Repub administrations of lying about inflation. He's an idiot, and only idiots follow the guy.

Dude, Evan, STFU already. The Boskin Commission was appointed by the senate and charged with the task of finding bias on the upside. And there are Schiff clients who are UP because they were investing with him since 2000. You can fucking point to anyone's short term performance to try and discredit them, including Warren Buffet and just about anyone the past two years. It is meaningless in the end game.

You're the same guy that has pointed to short-term gains in gold after recanting that you thought gold was up on equity over the last 50 years. I'm not sure why you continue to post when you can't see that Schiff didn't hedge his bets on the dollar going down like any sane investor would have. Linky for you.
 

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: BansheeX
Originally posted by: Evan
None of this BS above is even relevant to the point. Politicians don't redefine economic data or terms like employment or inflation, economists do and they're located all over the world from North America to India. Any trained economist anywhere is free to propose better definitions, politicians don't. This is why no one takes Schiff seriously and why he loses a ton of money for his clients; he proposes crackpot conspiracy theories about different Fed chairman spanned across 3 decades and 5 different Dem/Repub administrations of lying about inflation. He's an idiot, and only idiots follow the guy.

Dude, Evan, STFU already. The Boskin Commission was appointed by the senate and charged with the task of finding bias on the upside. And there are Schiff clients who are UP because they were investing with him since 2000. You can fucking point to anyone's short term performance to try and discredit them, including Warren Buffet and just about anyone the past two years. It is meaningless in the end game.

Evan just wants to lump people like Ron Paul and Peter Schiff into a group of whackjobs like Alex Jones. In Evan's eyes, anyone who opposes central banking is a conspiracy theorist. Can you blame him though? I mean, I'm sure he hates the fact that almost everything he learned in school about economics is presently being proven wrong. It's like a case of displaced anger.

rofl. The only people who take you nuts seriously are the same guys that puss out of every debate. You ain't fooling anyone hick.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Linky for you.

And one for you.

rofl:

- Debunk1; got currency devaluation dead wrong in 08, still wrong in 09. Same with gold.

- Debunk2: Pimps decoupling. Wrong so far, will be wrong again..

Funny you ate up all those bold-faced lies. rofl. Want to debate it? Nope, another puss-out is coming. :laugh:


Instead of just linking to videos (and :laugh: btw), how about giving us some exact quotes which you consider predictions he got wrong?

And I'll be the first to admit that no one has a crystal ball, especially when it comes to exact timing, because no one can accurately predict what, or how much, the gov't or the Fed will do about problems that arise.

Regardless, we will be seeing higher prices as a direct result of inflation, there's no doubt about that now. The question now is how high.
 

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Linky for you.

And one for you.

rofl:

- Debunk1; got currency devaluation dead wrong in 08, still wrong in 09. Same with gold.

- Debunk2: Pimps decoupling. Wrong so far, will be wrong again..

Funny you ate up all those bold-faced lies. rofl. Want to debate it? Nope, another puss-out is coming. :laugh:


Instead of just linking to videos (and :laugh: btw), how about giving us some exact quotes which you consider predictions he got wrong?

And I'll be the first to admit that no one has a crystal ball, especially when it comes to exact timing, because no one can accurately predict what, or how much, the gov't or the Fed will do about problems that arise.

Regardless, we will be seeing higher prices as a direct result of inflation, there's no doubt about that now. The question now is how high.

lmao, he literally says the dollar will fall "half" by the end of 08 (dollar actually went up), and he literally says that the rest of the world won't be effected by our recession without qualifying when. Only in hindsight did he qualify his reply that it would take "a while".

But we all knew he didn't want in on this one.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Linky for you.

And one for you.

rofl:

- Debunk1; got currency devaluation dead wrong in 08, still wrong in 09. Same with gold.

- Debunk2: Pimps decoupling. Wrong so far, will be wrong again..

Funny you ate up all those bold-faced lies. rofl. Want to debate it? Nope, another puss-out is coming. :laugh:


Instead of just linking to videos (and :laugh: btw), how about giving us some exact quotes which you consider predictions he got wrong?

And I'll be the first to admit that no one has a crystal ball, especially when it comes to exact timing, because no one can accurately predict what, or how much, the gov't or the Fed will do about problems that arise.

Regardless, we will be seeing higher prices as a direct result of inflation, there's no doubt about that now. The question now is how high.

lmao, he literally says the dollar will fall "half" by the end of 08 (dollar actually went up), and he literally says that the rest of the world won't be effected by our recession without qualifying when. Only in hindsight did he qualify his reply that it would take "a while".

But we all knew he didn't want in on this one.

See, this is why I specifically asked for exact quotes. And why I KNEW you wouldn't give any.

"I think it [dollar] could lose another 10% of its value before the end of the year, probably half its value before its all over in the next couple of years."

So, he didn't say what you said. Complete straw man.

And you wonder why people, "wimp out" on debates with you. :roll:
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Evan
Linky for you.

And one for you.

rofl:

- Debunk1; got currency devaluation dead wrong in 08, still wrong in 09. Same with gold.

- Debunk2: Pimps decoupling. Wrong so far, will be wrong again..

Funny you ate up all those bold-faced lies. rofl. Want to debate it? Nope, another puss-out is coming. :laugh:


Instead of just linking to videos (and :laugh: btw), how about giving us some exact quotes which you consider predictions he got wrong?

And I'll be the first to admit that no one has a crystal ball, especially when it comes to exact timing, because no one can accurately predict what, or how much, the gov't or the Fed will do about problems that arise.

Regardless, we will be seeing higher prices as a direct result of inflation, there's no doubt about that now. The question now is how high.

lmao, he literally says the dollar will fall "half" by the end of 08 (dollar actually went up), and he literally says that the rest of the world won't be effected by our recession without qualifying when. Only in hindsight did he qualify his reply that it would take "a while".

But we all knew he didn't want in on this one.

See, this is why I specifically asked for exact quotes. And why I KNEW you wouldn't give any.

"I think it [dollar] could lose another 10% of its value before the end of the year, probably half its value before its all over in the next couple of years."

So, he didn't say what you said. Complete straw man.

And you wonder why people, "wimp out" on debates with you. :roll:

He said that in September 2007 buddy, it's just about April 2009 so me cutting it short by 5 months doesn't really invalidate since Schiff has claimed numerous times in 2007 that the dollar would encounter a precipitous decline, yet it has gained in value against both the Euro and Pound since September 2007. He even said in that first link that he was shorting the dollar and guess what, he has lost huge on that because the dollar has done the opposite and considering shorts have unlimited liability, who the hell knows how much more he's going to lose. He even says in the 2nd link I provided that the rest of the world would benefit from the coming U.S. collapse, with no qualifier about when. Of course, so far, that looks utterly bunk. Expecting anything different any time soon, or even in our lifetimes, is akin to betting on a large meteor hitting earth.
 
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