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What would it be in your opinion? Has he held office long enough for a consensus? IMO he's been pretty good at saying one thing and doing another. What say you?
he's been pretty good at saying one thing and doing another
Do what it takes to get reelected?
LOL. Right, that's why he's repeatedly done the right thing even when it's unpopular with his base?
Amazing how the right thinks Obama is an empty suit who does what it takes to get votes the same time he's defying the will of the American people, that he's an eloquent celebrity at the same time he's a witchdoctor who speaks ebonics, that he's a pro-worker socialist at the same time he's an anti-worker corporatist fascist, that he's a weak leader with no balls at the same time he's wasting taxpayer money on Libya, that's he's losing the war in Afghanistan at the same time he's wasting money trying to win the war...
And how he abused his power and just got in the way of BP's efforts to cap the Gulf oil spill, while at the same time he should've done more, shouldn't have relied on their initial estimates, he should've gotten involved earlier.
Oh and how he's spending too much on stimulus packages but he needs to do more to create jobs.
The Right thinks in sound bytes, making them particularly susceptible to having their worldviews skewed by the politicization and constant stream of negativity that conservative talk generates.
"The Sun rises in the East? We'll tell you how this is bad, and how it's the Democrats' fault, right after these messages."
So far, they've done jack shit (besides hand out my money to banks, car companies, insurance companies etc)
LOL. Right, that's why he's repeatedly done the right thing even when it's unpopular with his base?
You just don't grasp what that did. GM's collapse would have killed US automaking as the entire supply chain would've gone belly-up. Losing that much of the US economy would've created shockwaves of uncertainty, leading to spending drying up, and that would've sent us straight into a depression.
Allowing the lenders to go belly-up would've created an even bigger credit crunch than what we went through. Credit is the lubrication of the US economy -- it gives businesses the ability to be adventurous. Without credit to allow them to bank on future profits, they are left with only their cash on hand to work with. You know how you maximize that? Downsizing.
I think we had enough of that the way things went -- more layoffs would've put so many people in the street that there'd be nobody left to buy the products the remaining made, putting everyone out of work.
Again, depression.
Creating 20,000 jobs in Bumfuckington, Nowhere with an artificial economy is meaningless if you lose 80 million jobs with no hope of rescue because the rest of the economy collapsed.
I have no problems with either Bush's or Obama's initial responses in this. They stabilized the patient, which is exactly the point. That all your standard self-absorbed American can see is that "stabilized" is less than "the very picture of good health" and thus wants to whine all day about how things aren't perfect doesn't concern me. They're idiots. You get used to that after a while.
Do what it takes to get reelected?
Pain will be cataclysmic though when math catches up.
Unless the Republicans really screw up Obama will lose next year
You just don't grasp what that did. GM's collapse would have killed US automaking as the entire supply chain would've gone belly-up. Losing that much of the US economy would've created shockwaves of uncertainty, leading to spending drying up, and that would've sent us straight into a depression.
Allowing the lenders to go belly-up would've created an even bigger credit crunch than what we went through. Credit is the lubrication of the US economy -- it gives businesses the ability to be adventurous. Without credit to allow them to bank on future profits, they are left with only their cash on hand to work with. You know how you maximize that? Downsizing.
I think we had enough of that the way things went -- more layoffs would've put so many people in the street that there'd be nobody left to buy the products the remaining made, putting everyone out of work.
Again, depression.
Creating 20,000 jobs in Bumfuckington, Nowhere with an artificial economy is meaningless if you lose 80 million jobs with no hope of rescue because the rest of the economy collapsed.
I have no problems with either Bush's or Obama's initial responses in this. They stabilized the patient, which is exactly the point. That all your standard self-absorbed American can see is that "stabilized" is less than "the very picture of good health" and thus wants to whine all day about how things aren't perfect doesn't concern me. They're idiots. You get used to that after a while.
I agree with you somewhat except the auto bailout should have been the end of it.
Like Pelosi said, you gotta take advantage of a good crisis.
You do remember Republicans were mostly saying 'let the industry fail'.
That was Rahm Emanuel, expressing a policy long practiced by Republicans, as documented in Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine". Pelosi Derangement Syndrome...
Yep. They were just getting into the Blame Obama for the the same crap we just did game.
Wrong Liberal, sorry, but he was not refering to Republicans when he said it on TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mzcbXi1Tkk&feature=related
Hillary liked the slogan too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B62igfNu-T0&feature=related
Do what it takes to get reelected?