The Obama Heyday Is Over

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manimal

Lifer
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People got free healthcare in the old system and that needs to change. No free health insurance for ANYONE. Everyone who can afford it can pay. If you can't afford it, you will do without it or ask for help from friends.

Once again Hacp harkens back to the good old days when mothers died in childbirth in alarming numbers, when elderly people fended for themselves on the street and people were turned away at hospitals to die on the street.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Too bad I don't have the time to dissect your whole post.

Who was defending the spending under Bush? Look at how many idiots are defending the spending (that is much greater) under Obama. BTW they are drawing funds from our and our kids accounts.


My god you are pathetic. I must have hit a nerve, why else would you be claiming to be so out of time to address what I wrote, then go right on to stick around and post four more times in the next hour? Seriously, how old are you? Did you somehow not realize that these posts are time stamped??

Yeah, just a shame you didn't have time to expound a little. I was hoping to see you prove my point in some kind of vapid, dishonest display of petty partisanship, the same kind I lamented in my first post, the popular past time of GOP apologists for the majority of 2000-2008. You know, the good ol stuff of resortingto the faulty labels and baseless assumptions in lieu of supporting or defending an argument. Darn.



Group think.... all you liberal small government libertarians are the same... defend Barry and Bash Bush. Not much diversity in thought.

LMAO, nm, there we go! That's some vintage 2004 Fail right there! Thank you Bud, awfully kind of you to illustrate exactly what I was talking about. You get extra points for trying that right before you attempt to critique others for not having "much diversity in thought." Definitely one of the more amusing ways I'm been proven right, and I appreciate it.

You really should take Z's post of "Those who speak autoritatively (sic) about those with whom they disagree are almost always wrong; their opinions colored by bias and differences in opinion." and contemplate it a bit. Or, you could continue the unoriginal and incorrect sockpuppet routine, whatever works for you...
 
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ericlp

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Dec 24, 2000
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I think it will be fun to watch Obama win again and Repubs FREAK out... Better get your prozac ready spidy.
 

boomerang

Lifer
Jun 19, 2000
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It will be fun to watch Obama lose Congress and FREAK out.
He's already freaking out. He's even resorted to talking with a "Negro dialect" when it suits his purpose. He's back to lecturing to us (Clinton liked to do that too) and acting like he's campaigning again.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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He's already freaking out. He's even resorted to talking with a "Negro dialect" when it suits his purpose. He's back to lecturing to us (Clinton liked to do that too) and acting like he's campaigning again.

His continued way of talking down to the American People is really starting to rub people the wrong way. And yet he continues to do so, pissing off more and more of the country each day.
 

PeshakJang

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Mar 17, 2010
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His continued way of talking down to the American People is really starting to rub people the wrong way. And yet he continues to do so, pissing off more and more of the country each day.

He's just a middleman... the teleprompter is pretty arrogant though.
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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Geez, and HACP shows just how much a douche bag he is. You'd probably be dead right now HACP if you had to pay your own medical costs up until this point in life. You no nothing about medicine and costs with that blatantly ignorant statement. I'm calling it ignorant, but most around here, including yourself, know you like to troll.
 

PeshakJang

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Geez, and HACP shows just how much a douche bag he is. You'd probably be dead right now HACP if you had to pay your own medical costs up until this point in life.

A few questions:

Do you think costs would go up or down if people were forced to pay more for medical services?

Do you think people should be allowed to receive coverage for pre-existing conditions without bias in terms of pricing?

Do you think insurance should be able to charge more if a person smokes, is obese, etc.?

Do you think that medical costs are at all related to supply and demand?
 

Tom

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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If spending is good, then they should give me all the money. I promise I'll spend it all.


People got free healthcare in the old system and that needs to change. No free health insurance for ANYONE. Everyone who can afford it can pay. If you can't afford it, you will do without it or ask for help from friends.


We won't cut government employee wages because the Unions have Obama right where they want them. We should fire all the union workers and then open up the system to non union workers.


If people are willing to do the same job for less, without a pension for example, then why not?

At least you're honest. I'd like to see some "conservatives" run a campaign of no health care for poor kids and cutting wages for soldiers. That is what they propose, but it's hidden amongst broad platitudes like cutting spending across the board.

In the real world those kind of proposals would never get more than 30% of the vote, which is pretty sick that that many people think their personal luxury is more important than the death of children.
 

CitizenKain

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Jul 6, 2000
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His continued way of talking down to the American People is really starting to rub people the wrong way. And yet he continues to do so, pissing off more and more of the country each day.

Nah, the American people are ok understanding thing above an 8th grade education. Don't know what your people's problem is.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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LOL at people who thought it would be any different. Politicians are politicians. They care about themselves, their benefactors, then the party, then you, in that order.

This so this. No one noticed cuz the black mans' gotta go or we gotta defend our hopes and party but fact is Obama is BlackBush as stated before by me prior to election and nothings changed my mind.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
Dec 7, 2004
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This so this. No one noticed cuz the black mans' gotta go or we gotta defend our hopes and party but fact is Obama is BlackBush as stated before by me prior to election and nothings changed my mind.

Definitely. Almost all of his policies are exactly the same. But when an uppity, non-white, foreign-sounding name guy is implementing them instead Joe (or George) Average, all of a sudden it's "COMMIES! ILLEGALS! BAILOUTS!! WE THE PEOPLE!!! AAARRGGGH!!!!!!"
 

HumblePie

Lifer
Oct 30, 2000
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A few questions:

Do you think costs would go up or down if people were forced to pay more for medical services?

Do you think people should be allowed to receive coverage for pre-existing conditions without bias in terms of pricing?

Do you think insurance should be able to charge more if a person smokes, is obese, etc.?

Do you think that medical costs are at all related to supply and demand?

What the hell do these questions have anything to do with me calling out HACP for being a dumbass? Do you see me advocating anything your questions relate to in any other post on these forums? I'm for health care and health care insurance reforms and I've exposed what I think should be done. For insurance I think we should move to a Japanese or French system where health insurance is for non profit. The insurance companies make their profit off their other forms of insurance they sell like auto and home insurance.

I am not a big fan of single payer or single provider system of UHC. I don't want to make yet another lengthy post about my opinions so search for my previous posts if you really do care about my opinion.
 
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