I'm trying to understand why AZ has not been called for Biden at this point.Arizona is going to foil trumps plan to challenge the votes in other states. Biden has AZ but it’s not 100% yet and Trump needs Arizona to keep counting all of its mail in and provisional ballots to have a chance. This could take a week! It’s kind of hard to argue x state needs to stop counting whilst arguing y state should continue to count.
There’s about 400k left votes in Arizona. More than Half in Maricopa County. Almost all at this point are mail in votes with some provisional ballots.
If Biden wins he’s going to win by some Trump 2016 margins in four or five states.If Trump wins he’s going to win by the same margins he won before.
dont toy with us
I'm trying to understand why AZ has not been called for Biden at this point.
I agree that Biden not winning in a blowout, etc. sucks.With all of the reported turnout gains, I think we were all hoping for the blowout we needed. Seeing it not come to fruition is incredibly demoralizing, along with the projected unflipped Senate and losses in the House. How fucking sick is America? As sick as I said it was back when we lost in 2016. Think about it. Let's ignore the corruption for a second. The "economy" can be portrayed as anything from in the shitter to barely holding on and unemployment at what? 10%? We have a raging pandemic that millions of fence-sitters agree Trump is mishandling. Despite that, Trump is making gains in a lot of areas.
Democrats and Republicans working together would be every bit as bad as complete Republican control at this point.Settle down, settle down, take a breath, the a breath.
(I'm talking to myself)
I was thinking... that if Biden pulls this off and is the next president with a democratic house and a republican senate, I do believe that everyone would be quite surprised to see a republican controlled senate actually working with a president Joe Biden. After all, both Mitch and Joe are old timers and I do believe they have respect for one another unlike the case with Obama and Mitch McConnell. I'm sure that Biden and McConnell have successfully worked together before and.... I think we would see some cooperation when it comes to making law to fight the virus, for stimulus relief, I do believe Joe and Mitch could find some common ground on many issues. Remember, both of these guys, Mitch and Joe, and many other republican old timers in the senate are part of that good ole boys club. Part of that old time government establishment. So, I would not be shocked nor surprised to see both sides agree on many things and get some stuff done that Obama could never get done with McConnell. But first, Joe has to win. And remember, we still have the wicked witch of the orange flying around on his broom trying to burn those ballots.
Lol no it would not.Democrats and Republicans working together would be every bit as bad as complete Republican control at this point.
Settle down, settle down, take a breath, the a breath.
(I'm talking to myself)
I was thinking... that if Biden pulls this off and is the next president with a democratic house and a republican senate, I do believe that everyone would be quite surprised to see a republican controlled senate actually working with a president Joe Biden. After all, both Mitch and Joe are old timers and I do believe they have respect for one another unlike the case with Obama and Mitch McConnell. I'm sure that Biden and McConnell have successfully worked together before and.... I think we would see some cooperation when it comes to making law to fight the virus, for stimulus relief, I do believe Joe and Mitch could find some common ground on many issues. Remember, both of these guys, Mitch and Joe, and many other republican old timers in the senate are part of that good ole boys club. Part of that old time government establishment. So, I would not be shocked nor surprised to see both sides agree on many things and get some stuff done that Obama could never get done with McConnell. But first, Joe has to win. And remember, we still have the wicked witch of the orange flying around on his broom trying to burn those ballots.
What happened to Biden winning the popular vote by 10M? Do you think that is still possible?I agree that Biden not winning in a blowout, etc. sucks.
We need to remember though that ALL of this is because the people who get the most votes don’t get to control the government. If margins were exactly identical for Republicans we would be discussing a red wave.
The will of the people. Half of America thinks we're a-ok, and support more of it. An indictment of the system we've created.With all of the reported turnout gains, I think we were all hoping for the blowout we needed. Seeing it not come to fruition is incredibly demoralizing, along with the projected unflipped Senate and losses in the House. How fucking sick is America? As sick as I said it was back when we lost in 2016. Think about it. Let's ignore the corruption for a second. The "economy" can be portrayed as anything from in the shitter to barely holding on and unemployment at what? 10%? We have a raging pandemic that millions of fence-sitters agree Trump is mishandling. Despite that, Trump is making gains in a lot of areas.
Perhaps on a few social issues, but economically? You think anything that needs to be done is going to happen?Lol no it would not.
With all of the reported turnout gains, I think we were all hoping for the blowout we needed. Seeing it not come to fruition is incredibly demoralizing, along with the projected unflipped Senate and losses in the House. How fucking sick is America? As sick as I said it was back when we lost in 2016. Think about it. Let's ignore the corruption for a second. The "economy" can be portrayed as anything from in the shitter to barely holding on and unemployment at what? 10%? We have a raging pandemic that millions of fence-sitters agree Trump is mishandling. Despite that, Trump is making gains in a lot of areas.
Things not getting done is better than actively harmful things happening.Perhaps on a few social issues, but economically? You think anything that needs to be done is going to happen?
Maybe Kamala will morph into a celebrity. I don't have a clear picture of her but she's evidently smart and witty (also comparatively young) and that gives her unlimited potential:Just get a celebrity like Will Smith and be done with it.
Not by much. Things not getting done = climate change drowning us in our own blood in a couple decades.Things not getting done is better than actively harmful things happening.
I'm trying to understand why AZ has not been called for Biden at this point.
Edit: oh and Maine. WTF is going on with Maine? And how has Collins not been shown the door by now? I know they are dealing with ranked-choice but she should not have broken 40% of the vote in a sane world.
I figured MI and Wisconsin were very likely wins for Biden. CV19 going crazy, "turning the corner" didn't fly.Please, please, please, please, please be true and hold.
Moscow Mitch really only supported Trumpity Dumpity to push his justice agenda. Now he has that, it's possible he'll work with Biden to restore damage done in last 4 years as long he gets assurance that SCOTUS remains hands off. And Biden would agree with this compremise.Settle down, settle down, take a breath, the a breath.
(I'm talking to myself)
I was thinking... that if Biden pulls this off and is the next president with a democratic house and a republican senate, I do believe that everyone would be quite surprised to see a republican controlled senate actually working with a president Joe Biden. After all, both Mitch and Joe are old timers and I do believe they have respect for one another unlike the case with Obama and Mitch McConnell. I'm sure that Biden and McConnell have successfully worked together before and.... I think we would see some cooperation when it comes to making law to fight the virus, for stimulus relief, I do believe Joe and Mitch could find some common ground on many issues. Remember, both of these guys, Mitch and Joe, and many other republican old timers in the senate are part of that good ole boys club. Part of that old time government establishment. So, I would not be shocked nor surprised to see both sides agree on many things and get some stuff done that Obama could never get done with McConnell. But first, Joe has to win. And remember, we still have the wicked witch of the orange flying around on his broom trying to set fire to those ballots.
What happened to Biden winning the popular vote by 10M? Do you think that is still possible?
No actually by a lot.Not by much. Things not getting done = climate change drowning us in our own blood in a couple decades.
Is the senate flip proving to be a pipe dream? That disappoints me seriously.It looks like Biden has it, although the margins are way closer than I would have liked.
Again, this should be an example of why not to take election night returns that seriously.
At the moment looks like the Libertarians in Michigan may have taken enough of the vote to have decided the outcome. Are they going to end up as the scapegoats for the Republicans as the Greens were to the Democrats?
Biden will get more votes for president than any candidate in the history of the country. And still struggle with the EC...seems like a good system.
Given enough time, any non-existential problem will get solved on its own. Judges die, empires fall, peoples are enslaved and set free, but the world keeps spinning. I'm worried about the actual end of our species, not the end of 'the American dream'.No actually by a lot.