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So there has been a lot of talk lately about the affordable 22? Chi Mei Panel, I thought I would make a thread will all the solutions using this panel and their differences, in an attempt to aid everyone in a buying decision. i know i am having a tough time
First of all, the panel itself:
The Chi Mei 22? panel is a 6-bit TN panel with a 5ms response time, and a 700:1 contrast ratio. All of these panels that report 16.7 million colors use Hi-FRC to achieve 16.7 million colors. The only big complaints with this panel so far seems to be backlight bleeding on the top and bottom of the screen, and a somewhat poor viewing angle. For those concerned about pixel pitch, please read this article. it should clear up some concerns. thanks to Bernard for the link. That article is also a great overview of 22" panels in general, and focuses on the acer.
Chi Mei M220Z1
Solutions
Acer AL2216Wbd:
-Pros: Good color reproduction, sturdy build (comparatively)
-Cons: limited inputs
links
Hardforum
Newegg (339.99)
Acer
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Sceptre X22WG-Gamer
-Pros: HDMI Input(!), 1200:1 contrast ratio(?), Sleek design
-Cons: Least sturdy of the bunch, bright logo
Links
Anand
Anand, Props to tu2!
Newegg ($359.99)
Excellent, Lengthy review!
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Westinghouse LCM-22W2
-Pros: Lots of inputs: Component, composite, S-vid.
-Cons: Large frame, Possible picture quality issues on component and composite inputs?
Links
Best Buy ($499.99)
Anand
HardForum-Acer Vs Westy
PC Mag Review
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CHIMEI 221D (NBC)
-Pros/Cons: Reported 330 cd brightness and 800:1 contrast ratio.
-Not much is known about this panel...review of it further down the page. I'll have a review up by the end of next week.
links
Newegg ($339.99)
I picked up this monitor from newegg after thanksgiving. I am very happy with it. I can't complain at all about performance, though i am somewhat of an LCD virgin...heres my newegg review:
Pros: Excellent picture clarity, color clarity, response time, taken everything i throw at it with ease. HL2, FEAR, FEAR XP, several movies, office work, etc. Really a great display. No viewing angle issues. I regularly utilize the brightness presets depending on what i am looking at.
Cons: 1 stuck pixel at the vertical center about two inches from the right side of the screen. I don't notice it in games much, but it can get annoying in movies. Other than that, i can't really think of anything. It sometimes can have a grainy feel in movies, but most of the time i watch movies far enough back so that it isn't noticeable.
Other Thoughts: There was alot of hubbub about the TN panels having major viewing angle problems, but i'm not seeing any of it. My experience with LCD's is limited, but i am nothing but happy with this display. It would be absolutely perfect if not for that darn stuck pixel, but i am still hopeful of being able to fix that. Very, very simple aesthetically, which i like. I often feel like i am looking out a window when i have landscape backgrounds applied. Highly recommended!
Heres a bad pic of my setup:
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Samsung 225BW (NOT CERTAIN ABOUT PANEL, but still a very similar display)
-Pros: Samsung usually=good build, height adjustment.
-Cons: reports 280 cd brightness(?)
Links
Newegg ($379.99)
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Viewsonic VG2230wm
-Pros/Cons: Well, its a viewsonic, which usually have a good rep.
Links
Newegg ($398.99)
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BenQ FP222W
-Pros/Cons: Once again, good rep. Good reviews on newegg so far.
Links
Newegg ($339.99)
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ASUS MW221U
-Pros: well its an ASUS, isn;t that good enough!? and it looks freakin sweet. reported 2ms response, HDMI, HDCP.
-Cons: ?
Links
ASUStek
ExCaliber PC ($421)
Review
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Liyama Prolite E2200WS
-Pros/Cons: See link
Links
TrustedReviews
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Samsung vs Westy
I will keep the OP updated with new info.
Hope this helps! Discuss!
special thanks to xtknight for digging up info for this thread!!
First of all, the panel itself:
The Chi Mei 22? panel is a 6-bit TN panel with a 5ms response time, and a 700:1 contrast ratio. All of these panels that report 16.7 million colors use Hi-FRC to achieve 16.7 million colors. The only big complaints with this panel so far seems to be backlight bleeding on the top and bottom of the screen, and a somewhat poor viewing angle. For those concerned about pixel pitch, please read this article. it should clear up some concerns. thanks to Bernard for the link. That article is also a great overview of 22" panels in general, and focuses on the acer.
Chi Mei M220Z1
Solutions
Acer AL2216Wbd:
-Pros: Good color reproduction, sturdy build (comparatively)
-Cons: limited inputs
links
Hardforum
Newegg (339.99)
Acer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sceptre X22WG-Gamer
-Pros: HDMI Input(!), 1200:1 contrast ratio(?), Sleek design
-Cons: Least sturdy of the bunch, bright logo
Links
Anand
Anand, Props to tu2!
Newegg ($359.99)
Excellent, Lengthy review!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Westinghouse LCM-22W2
-Pros: Lots of inputs: Component, composite, S-vid.
-Cons: Large frame, Possible picture quality issues on component and composite inputs?
Links
Best Buy ($499.99)
Anand
HardForum-Acer Vs Westy
PC Mag Review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
CHIMEI 221D (NBC)
-Pros/Cons: Reported 330 cd brightness and 800:1 contrast ratio.
-Not much is known about this panel...review of it further down the page. I'll have a review up by the end of next week.
links
Newegg ($339.99)
I picked up this monitor from newegg after thanksgiving. I am very happy with it. I can't complain at all about performance, though i am somewhat of an LCD virgin...heres my newegg review:
Pros: Excellent picture clarity, color clarity, response time, taken everything i throw at it with ease. HL2, FEAR, FEAR XP, several movies, office work, etc. Really a great display. No viewing angle issues. I regularly utilize the brightness presets depending on what i am looking at.
Cons: 1 stuck pixel at the vertical center about two inches from the right side of the screen. I don't notice it in games much, but it can get annoying in movies. Other than that, i can't really think of anything. It sometimes can have a grainy feel in movies, but most of the time i watch movies far enough back so that it isn't noticeable.
Other Thoughts: There was alot of hubbub about the TN panels having major viewing angle problems, but i'm not seeing any of it. My experience with LCD's is limited, but i am nothing but happy with this display. It would be absolutely perfect if not for that darn stuck pixel, but i am still hopeful of being able to fix that. Very, very simple aesthetically, which i like. I often feel like i am looking out a window when i have landscape backgrounds applied. Highly recommended!
Heres a bad pic of my setup:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Samsung 225BW (NOT CERTAIN ABOUT PANEL, but still a very similar display)
-Pros: Samsung usually=good build, height adjustment.
-Cons: reports 280 cd brightness(?)
Links
Newegg ($379.99)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Viewsonic VG2230wm
-Pros/Cons: Well, its a viewsonic, which usually have a good rep.
Links
Newegg ($398.99)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
BenQ FP222W
-Pros/Cons: Once again, good rep. Good reviews on newegg so far.
Links
Newegg ($339.99)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ASUS MW221U
-Pros: well its an ASUS, isn;t that good enough!? and it looks freakin sweet. reported 2ms response, HDMI, HDCP.
-Cons: ?
Links
ASUStek
ExCaliber PC ($421)
Review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Liyama Prolite E2200WS
-Pros/Cons: See link
Links
TrustedReviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Samsung vs Westy
Originally posted by: xtknight
The ViewSonic VX2235wm also uses the CMO M220Z1-L01. The Chi Mei CMV-221A is the VGA version of the CMV-221D. The panel may have input lag after all, as LesNumeriques did measure some.
Just to let you know, your OP is going to get long because the 22" market is about to explode.
Something's missing from this thread. No, not cowbell, rather Chinese measurements.
Sceptre X22WG-Gamer measurements (lcd.zol.com.cn):
White level: 198 nits
Black level: 0.31 nits (contrast 635:1)
Color gamut: 75.6% (sRGB=72%) NTSC
Uniformity (center/corner): 1.12/1.19=94%
The black level is average, but color accuracy on midtones is decent. Bright colors are a little less accurate. It does have more backlight bleeding than usual.
BenQ FP222W measurements (lcd.zol.com.cn):
White level: 163 nits
Black level: 0.32 nits (contrast 515:1)
Color gamut: 75.9% NTSC
Uniformity: 1.27/1.49=85%
I assume the BenQ also uses the CMO as the measurements are pretty close.
ASUS MW221u measurements (lcd.zol.com.cn):
White level: 163 nits
Black level: 0.28 nits (contrast 578:1)
Color gamut: 76.7% NTSC
Uniformity: 1.19/1.37=87%
The color characteristics of the LCDs that use the CMO 22"w are quite consistent. Backlight bleeding however seems to vary a ton. Some have lots, some have virtually invisible bleeding. On all the models tested above, uniformity varied less than 15% from the center to the corner. One important thing to note is that it's pretty dark for an LCD panel. The BenQ and ASUS hit 163 nits max, which isn't bright at all for an LCD (CRTs are around 85-125). The Sceptre hit a little higher at 198. Keep in mind the ViewSonic VX2025WM reaches 264 nits, and the NEC 20WMGX2/Dell 2407 reach about 470 nits. That's actually a good thing though. You don't need much calibration if it's already at 160 nits. That's a pretty comfortable level at which to use a monitor.
I will keep the OP updated with new info.
Hope this helps! Discuss!
special thanks to xtknight for digging up info for this thread!!