*The Official* Abit IP35-E (Ed. 2)

[Heidfirst]

which CPU & which BIOS are you running?

 

[daggermeerkat]

Running a Q6600 with a VID of 1.3 and flashed the BIOS to 16 today. If I have a VID of 1.3, does that mean I have to set vcore to 1.36 to compensate for the 0.06 vdroop in order to run the processor stable?

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: daggermeerkat
Running a Q6600 with a VID of 1.3 and flashed the BIOS to 16 today. If I have a VID of 1.3, does that mean I have to set vcore to 1.36 to compensate for the 0.06 vdroop in order to run the processor stable?

For now don't worry about the vdroop, find a stable overclock at a vcore and temps you are comfortable with. Use CoreTemp to monitor your temps.
For example, my Q6600 has a VID of 1.2375V and needs 1.2975V bios, 1.248V idle, 1.208V load (CPUZ) @ 3.40Ghz, 12 hrs. Prime95 (small FFts) stable, 32C idle, 52C load with a Coolermaster Hyper TX2 HSF and an Antec 900 case, room temp 66-68F (winter).
It will also do 3.6Ghz at 1.3575V bios, 1.312V idle, 1.272V load (CPUZ), 34C idle, 57C load stable. I'm still using bios V12, which I find extremely stable, and have no reason to flash to another bios.

 

[bryanW1995]

the biggest benefit of bios 16 is that it significantly reduces vdroop. daggermeerkat doesn't know how good his vdroop is because he hasn't experienced an older bios. I'm happy that I flashed to 16 last night even though my load vcore is the same simply b/c I'm not at 1.35 in bios instead of 1.38, and I can probably creep it down a notch or two from there...

btw, the ip35e works fine with a Q9450. Well, it works fine as long as you gave the 24pin power plugged in properly. Please don't ask me how I know that.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Ratman6161
On their web site they are saying NEW next to their IP35P which looks to be very very similar but made cheaper with smaller and fewer heat sinks. Feature list looks identical. Speculation: this may be intended to replace the IP35-E

Just a heads up for you IP35 fans - the IP35P is now available at teh Egg. Price is somewhere between the old IP35-E and the Pro.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: AmberClad

Originally posted by: Ratman6161
On their web site they are saying NEW next to their IP35P which looks to be very very similar but made cheaper with smaller and fewer heat sinks. Feature list looks identical. Speculation: this may be intended to replace the IP35-E

Just a heads up for you IP35 fans - the IP35P is now available at teh Egg. Price is somewhere between the old IP35-E and the Pro.

Tempted to get it to replace my nforce4 board. But arggghh another Abit rebate. Free shipping would seal the deal. Be aware that the images at the Egg are of the IP35-Pro not the IP35P. Link
Ewiz has it for $90.64, no rebate, but shipping is higher to the east coast.

 

[MadScientist]

The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

 

[daggermeerkat]

I forgot to mention that my case is the Akasa Eclipse 62, with 2 x 120 mm fans one front, one back. Thinking of getting another 120mm and putting it behind the drive bays.

 

[imported_Husky55]

Originally posted by: MadScientist
The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

True enough. Same here, ran all bios from 12-17. I am running the 17 bios now and it does the same damn thing, losing my Oc settings on cold boot.

May be I should just flash back to 12 and be done with all the updates.


:disgust:

 

[daggermeerkat]

Right .. I am currently @ 360 x 9.0 [3.240Ghz] @ 1.35V and its been running stable for 3 hours using Small FFTs. Temps @ load are 55 Celcius. Can't do 360FSB below 1.35V .. is there any way I can bring down the core voltage by modifying other values in the BIOS settings? All other settings are at stock/auto with this configuration. Here's a screenshot with HW Monitor.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: daggermeerkat
Right .. I am currently @ 360 x 9.0 [3.240Ghz] @ 1.35V and its been running stable for 3 hours using Small FFTs. Temps @ load are 55 Celcius. Can't do 360FSB below 1.35V .. is there any way I can bring down the core voltage by modifying other values in the BIOS settings? All other settings are at stock/auto with this configuration. Here's a screenshot with HW Monitor.

Your VID of 1.3V at stock was already on the high side. With your cooling, room temp?, 1.35V with a 55C load temp is good. All your other temps look good.
If you want to go higher than 3.24Ghz stable you may have to increase your vcore, which means higher CPU temps. The only other thing you can do is increase your cooling, another fan?, or lower you room temps to get your CPU temps down. Don't forget to run Memtest86+ and keep your vdimm at 1.9V to decrease heat unless your ram is unstable.
Run Prime95 Blend setting when you get to an OC you are comfortable with.
This article on Prime95 may be helpful. Link

Posting this in the "CPU and Overclocking" category would probably have gotten you more replies.

 

[METALWORK]

Originally posted by: Husky55

Originally posted by: MadScientist
The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

True enough. Same here, ran all bios from 12-17. I am running the 17 bios now and it does the same damn thing, losing my Oc settings on cold boot.

May be I should just flash back to 12 and be done with all the updates.


:disgust:

Do you lose all the changes made in bios settings or only those manual settings changed in the first section?

 

[nerp]

I'm glad I picked up this board when I did since their supply seems to by drying up bigtime. I'm just wishing I picked up another since I'm going to have a spare 775 chip lying around and I'd like to use this board again.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: METALWORK

Originally posted by: Husky55

Originally posted by: MadScientist
The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

True enough. Same here, ran all bios from 12-17. I am running the 17 bios now and it does the same damn thing, losing my Oc settings on cold boot.

May be I should just flash back to 12 and be done with all the updates.


:disgust:

Do you lose all the changes made in bios settings or only those manual settings changed in the first section?

I've been back to V12 for awhile, last bios I tried was a V16 beta, so I don't remember if any other manual settings other than my CPU OC changed in the first section on cold boot.

 

[bryanW1995]

ix38 quad gt is 137 AR shipped at newegg until 4/28. that's a lot more mobo than this, but it's certainly a strong alternative to a $100 ds3l or $140 ip35 pro. plus, ip35-e is very hard to find at all these days.

 

[Tweakin]

I'm still trying to get my Quad stable above 3GHz with this board running 8GB of ram. 4GB was not an issue up to 3.5, but now it's an issue up to 3.1. I have a post on the OC forum here if anyone is having a simular experience.

 

[Idex]

If you can find them at fry's, i got one for $90 not including a 35 dollar rebate this week.

 

[bryanW1995]

just did a search and the only ip35 mobo they have is ip35 pro (which is oos btw).

 

[Winterpool]

So, how different is the IP35P from the beloved but seemingly retired IP35-E? It certainly looks different (personally I preferred the deep blue of the IP35-E, heh). The specs appear almost identical, however. The main difference seems to be the addition of the 'EZ' switch to enable clearing the CMOS without opening the case, though Newegg's page doesn't list this feature for some reason.

As the MadScientist has pointed out, the current Newegg photos are jumble of IP35P and IP35 Pro photos. The latter photos in the series are IP35P.

I do hate opening a case just to clear the CMOS, but I'm not sure the convenience is worth an extra $20.

 

[imported_Husky55]

Originally posted by: METALWORK

Originally posted by: Husky55

Originally posted by: MadScientist
The vdroop with the older bios doesn't bother me, it's about ~0.08V from bios to load. I've tried all the bioses from 13 to 16 and they all have the same problem of losing my CPU OC if I completely power down. Haven't tried V17 yet, Link, maybe Abit's fixed this.

True enough. Same here, ran all bios from 12-17. I am running the 17 bios now and it does the same damn thing, losing my Oc settings on cold boot.

May be I should just flash back to 12 and be done with all the updates.


:disgust:

Do you lose all the changes made in bios settings or only those manual settings changed in the first section?

Only the FSB. NOTHING was changed, i.e. all the settings in bios remain intact, just boot up to default.

But if you enter bios before boot up then everything is good. My system is stable. No error due to OC.


This is a known problem at the Abit forum.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Winterpool
So, how different is the IP35P from the beloved but seemingly retired IP35-E? It certainly looks different (personally I preferred the deep blue of the IP35-E, heh). The specs appear almost identical, however. The main difference seems to be the addition of the 'EZ' switch to enable clearing the CMOS without opening the case, though Newegg's page doesn't list this feature for some reason.

As the MadScientist has pointed out, the current Newegg photos are jumble of IP35P and IP35 Pro photos. The latter photos in the series are IP35P.

I do hate opening a case just to clear the CMOS, but I'm not sure the convenience is worth an extra $20.

that's a very good question. I think I'll wander over to the abit forums for more info on this...

 

[Peav]

Originally posted by: Winterpool
I do hate opening a case just to clear the CMOS, but I'm not sure the convenience is worth an extra $20.

I got around this by using a 3 pin fan extension cable plugged onto the cmos clear jumpers, stuck it through an open slot cover at the back, with the cmos clear jumper stuck on the end.

Works a treat and never have to open the case to clear the cmos.

 

[lightfoot3b]

Wow, that is a really good idea. I might have to consider that. Thanks.

BTW I have an e2160 @3.00 at about 1.37vcore running nice and cool around 56*C loaded with my Gemin II (free after rebate) gigantic cooler! The best part is this board does let me run 3-3-3-9 on DDR2!
-Too bad the T1 setting doesnt affect anything for me. Is that because I'm using 4 sticks of ram(3gb)? I seem to remember T1 only working with 1-2 sticks.

Wow that last thread at 120+ pages was awesome.

 

[Zapper48]

I used the 3 pin extension trick on an Asrock board as the clear CMOS jumpers were so close the the video card it almost required removing the video card to clear CMOS lol.

 

[bryanW1995]

1t settings don't work on p35 mobos at all. I used to try running my ballistix at 1t but it still showed as 2t in cpu-z and memset, so...meh.