*The Official* Abit IP35-E (Ed. 2)

[Spammeh]

I've got my q6600 to 3.3ghz now
367x9 1.48vcore (All other temps stock)
but PWM is 100c!

am I safe to run it with PWM at 100c?

 

[Heidfirst]

I wouldn't recommend it for longevity.
what type of airflow have you got over the PWM section of the board?

 

[rickyman123]

can anyone please tell me what does it mean if the mobo started siren and it can boot and go to windows?

 

[Heidfirst]

a hi lo is usually due to a fan rpm, temp or voltage being outwith the set warning parameters.

 

[Spammeh]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst
I wouldn't recommend it for longevity.
what type of airflow have you got over the PWM section of the board?

I don't really have a fan directly blowing on the PWM section.

I can do 3.2ghz with pwm at 85c if that's better

 

[rickyman123]

i want to know which cpu temp is correct? core temp or bios cpu temp?

have anyone got a ninja mini installed on abit ip35 series board?

 

[Bork]

Just got 2 sticks of Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 and could use some help from you smart ppl on getting it to run at stated 1066mhz speed. Cannot seem to get higher than 900mhz. Current settings: cpu clock:300mhz, Mult:9, ratio: 1:1.50, PCI:100, DDR2 V=2.2v, DRAM timing:SPD. I know several reports of problems with this mem - but it's running fine now several days - should I just be thankful its stable @ 900mhz? Just tryin to max things out for Crysis.

Abit IP35-E BIOS 17 | E2160 @ 2.7Ghz | 2x1gb Crucial 1066 (single-sided) | Asus EN8800GT | Antec 430 earthwatt

 

[Bork]

OK make me answer my own question. This particular Crucial memory is a 300+ review horror-show over on Newegg, but there's a review on 3/24/08 from Andy with some good info. It seems the Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) default of 42 is too low. Set mine to 52 and so far I'm stable at 1000MHz @ 2.10v with the following Manual mem timings: 5 5 5 18 52 14 11 3 3 2T. Next increment is 1200MHz so I'm calling this good enough. Enjoy!

 

[mindless1]

Sorry if it's a repost but did anyone notice it looks like there's a newer bios version 18 ? It's not linked from their website bios d/l page but browsing their FTP, there it is!

DDL

ftp://ftp-usa.abit.com.tw/pub/.../bios/ip35/m630a18.zip

A portion of the txt in the zip:

Release information:


[ENGLISH]

1. Fixed the Wake Up by WAKE# of PCIe function abnormality.
2. Fixed 45nm CPU compatibility and support CPU half multiplier.
3. Fixed system hang when used Intel PXE CPU series.
4. Fixed the power-on switch unable shut down when to set ¡§Password¡¨ to shut down.
5. BIOS compiled date: 05/30/2008.

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: mindless1
Sorry if it's a repost but did anyone notice it looks like there's a newer bios version 18 ? It's not linked from their website bios d/l page but browsing their FTP, there it is!

It's linked off all abit sites other than from uabit.com (i.e. abit USA) e.g. http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en...=LGA775&pPRODINFO=BIOS.
If you look you'll see that's an abit.com.tw link for the ftp not an uabit.com one.

 

[nerp]

Hmm. I guess I should give this a shot at some point. I don't really have any problems but i do plan on getting a 45nm cpu at some point and some of the ones I'm looking at have half multipliers.

 

[nerp]

Well, just flashed using the windows flash utility. Worked perfectly fine, OC settings work just as before. Nice to be at the latest revision.

I have a hunch this might be one of the last bios updates ever for this board.

Thanks for the heads up, btw.

 

[Bonesdad]

ANyone know how to get the motherboard chipset driver? THe link on abit (and uabit) doesn't work.

 

[mindless1]

Originally posted by: Bonesdad
ANyone know how to get the motherboard chipset driver? THe link on abit (and uabit) doesn't work.

http://downloadcenter.intel.co...roductID=2842&lang=eng

 

[kashk]

Has anyone replaced the PWM heatsinks on this board with something better? I'm getting terrible temps so I tried to position a 60mm fan I had over the PWM, and it dropped full load prime 95 temps from 92 celsius to 75 celsius, but the problem is there's no good way to keep the fan in place in that area. So i'm considering these enzotech mosfet heatsinks, they're all copper and use 3m thermapl tape to keep them in place.

Also, how many PWM mosfets are there? 12? Has anyone tried these and do they drop temps by any significant amount over the stock PWM? When i've touched the stock blue PWM heatsink, it's usually just a little warm, but not enough that makes me think it's conducting heat very well, the capacitors next to it are usually scorching hot.

Enzotech PWM Heatsinks

 

[mindless1]

Originally posted by: kashk
Has anyone replaced the PWM heatsinks on this board with something better? I'm getting terrible temps so I tried to position a 60mm fan I had over the PWM, and it dropped full load prime 95 temps from 92 celsius to 75 celsius, but the problem is there's no good way to keep the fan in place in that area. So i'm considering these enzotech mosfet heatsinks, they're all copper and use 3m thermapl tape to keep them in place.

Also, how many PWM mosfets are there? 12? Has anyone tried these and do they drop temps by any significant amount over the stock PWM? When i've touched the stock blue PWM heatsink, it's usually just a little warm, but not enough that makes me think it's conducting heat very well, the capacitors next to it are usually scorching hot.

Enzotech PWM Heatsinks

What you need:

Take off stock 'sink.
Lap it
Take a piece of polycarb cut to size to make a back-plate to mount behind the board. Make it at least 3/8" thick and drill holes corresponding to 'sink mounting holes.
Put grease on 'fets.
Mount sink and backplate using screws instead of spring tabs.

 

[nyker96]

does BIOS 18 for IP35-E support E0 dual/quads?

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: nyker96
does BIOS 18 for IP35-E support E0 dual/quads?

I believe it does. From what I understand, the E5200 is an E0 stepping and it works just fine. VirtualLarry just got one going in his IP35-E.

 

[kashk]

Originally posted by: mindless1

What you need:

Take off stock 'sink.
Lap it
Take a piece of polycarb cut to size to make a back-plate to mount behind the board. Make it at least 3/8" thick and drill holes corresponding to 'sink mounting holes.
Put grease on 'fets.
Mount sink and backplate using screws instead of spring tabs.

Any specific brand of thermal grease? Or what about ceramique? I've lapped it before and used screws and washers, but put the thermal pad back when I was done. With screws the PWMs would rattle and buzz, which was due to too much pressure, but loosening the screws didn't help so i put the plastic push pins back in. Backplate is a good idea though.

That being said, I finally managed to keep the 60mm fan in place by shoving it in the gap under the rear 120 exhaust fan and above the PS/2 / optical out ports right onto pof the PWM heatsink. It's on an angle pointing back at the base of the CPU heatsink a bit, but Prime95 load temps dropped from low 80s to mid 60s on my 1.32v / 3.3ghz overclock, so i'm happy.

And to Spammeh, are you really doing 1.5v for 3.3ghz? That seems nuts...

 

[mindless1]

Originally posted by: kashk

Originally posted by: mindless1

What you need:

Take off stock 'sink.
Lap it
Take a piece of polycarb cut to size to make a back-plate to mount behind the board. Make it at least 3/8" thick and drill holes corresponding to 'sink mounting holes.
Put grease on 'fets.
Mount sink and backplate using screws instead of spring tabs.

Any specific brand of thermal grease? Or what about ceramique? I've lapped it before and used screws and washers, but put the thermal pad back when I was done. With screws the PWMs would rattle and buzz, which was due to too much pressure, but loosening the screws didn't help so i put the plastic push pins back in. Backplate is a good idea though.

That being said, I finally managed to keep the 60mm fan in place by shoving it in the gap under the rear 120 exhaust fan and above the PS/2 / optical out ports right onto pof the PWM heatsink. It's on an angle pointing back at the base of the CPU heatsink a bit, but Prime95 load temps dropped from low 80s to mid 60s on my 1.32v / 3.3ghz overclock, so i'm happy.

And to Spammeh, are you really doing 1.5v for 3.3ghz? That seems nuts...

Some chips just need more voltage past about 3.1GHz, and I suspect the budgetized design of this board's PWM makes the power a little dirtier at high current so it will require a bit more voltage than some boards will need. Plus there's the vdroop factor, the CPU isn't actually getting all of that 1.5V.

Ceramique is fine, ideally any grease that's synthetic instead of silicone and non-capacitive (not high metal content like Arctic Silver). I'm not sure what caused the PWMs to rattle and buzz, that seems an odd result. Too much pressure will flex the board which you want to avoid by using the backplate. Sometimes I take an extra step and put a foam liner on the backplate though this is usually on video cards since the space behind the GPU is dense with surface mount parts, but if there are any leads sticking through the board where the backplate sits it will equalize pressure some which is good.

It's really a matter of how elaborate you want to do it. You could put washers and springs on the screws if you wanted (and if they're long enough). Put a very thin layer of grease on the fets, set the sink on them and take it off checking to see if all fets made good contact by the grease marks on the sink. If some didn't, you'll either need to use a lot of grease, a thermal pad, or take a piece of sandpaper wrapped around the sink and use that to tediously lap the tops of the fets until they are all flush. Doing so carefully takes a long time and makes a mess, but it will give a better result if some aren't making contact. Remember that getting a temp reading is only indicative of one spot, not all the fets' individual temps.

Then there's the other obvious option of putting a fan nearby to blow on them. The following post shows an example of making a bracket to mount a fan on the rear case fan's frame.
http://forum.uabit.com/showpos...?p=936731&postcount=22


There's a lot of info on this board (and related -Pro version) at Abit's forum.
http://forum.uabit.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48

 

[kashk]

Thanks for all the insight, some very helpful information in this thread.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: nyker96
does BIOS 18 for IP35-E support E0 dual/quads?

I believe it does. From what I understand, the E5200 is an E0 stepping and it works just fine. VirtualLarry just got one going in his IP35-E.

No, E5200 is M0, not E0. I don't know about E0.

 

[Blackfirevatsal]

Guys since you guys are owners of ip35-e could you answer my 2 simple questions
1. How many 4 pin fans can i connect with the motherboard?
2. How many sata devices can i connect with the motherboard?

 

[Heidfirst]

1. only the CPU fan header is 4-pin PWM, the rest are 3-pin
2. 4 on the ICH9. of course you could always add a PCI/PCI-E SATA card or get an IP35 (6) or IP35 Pro (6 internal & 2 eSATA)

 

[Blackfirevatsal]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst
1. only the CPU fan header is 4-pin PWM, the rest are 3-pin
2. 4 on the ICH9. of course you could always add a PCI/PCI-E SATA card or get an IP35 (6) or IP35 Pro (6 internal & 2 eSATA)

Ok. So many 3-pin connectors are there?